High latitudes cruiser
 

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:28:40 -0000, Justin C
wrote:


What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Heating on yachts is often a bad joke. Presumably a hi lat boat has a
good furnace. There is one originally intended for trucks that is
supposed to be pretty good.

Casady

High latitudes cruiser
 

Justin C wrote:
What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Justin.



A cabin heater?

Cheers
Marty

High latitudes cruiser
 

Justin C wrote:
What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.


Designed to be able to deal effectively with very cold weather &
ice... including the possibility of being frozen in.

Doesn't appeal to me, personally!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Jan 28, 4:28*am, Justin C wrote:

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.
Justin C, by the sea.


Hey Justin:
They need to be designed by a navel architect for specific areas of
operation not a marketing vp who wants a cheep fleet for their bare
boat charter fleet in margarita Ville.

Think "slow... heavy... stout" = expensive. Small cockpits but people
dont like them cause they cant intertain a cocktail party. Think small
port lights 7"x15" with 3/8" glass not picture widows like Red Cloud
has.... uh, had. Think all groco bronze through hulls not plastic.
Think "small" sail plan 15.0 SA/D Ratio. Mine boat is 14.7 cutter.

But now some one will say, "but if you have a fast boat you can out
run a storm." to that I say, bull****.

I have one. I live at N45. Just need to drive it hard. ..............
absolutly wonderfull !

Bob

High latitudes cruiser
 

Take a look at this approach.

the sail boat Seal......... pretty cool boat

http://www.expeditionsail.com/

bob

High latitudes cruiser
 

A boat for 'high latitudes' needs to be STRONG to be able to survive
the routine heavy weather that is characteristic of the high
latitudes.

Also, for the high Canadian Maritimes (northern Nwfld and Labrador +
Nunavik, etc.) and similar areas the boat should probably have high
freeboard to lessen the chance of a polar bear from easily 'hopping
aboard' when you are anchored ... especially in summer when there is
no ice, the bears are concentrated on the beaches/shorelines and the
bears are 'hungry' and havent eaten much for several months (STRONG
companionway/hatches, etc). :-O

High latitudes cruiser
 

"RichH" wrote in message
...
A boat for 'high latitudes' needs to be STRONG to be able to survive
the routine heavy weather that is characteristic of the high
latitudes.

Also, for the high Canadian Maritimes (northern Nwfld and Labrador +
Nunavik, etc.) and similar areas the boat should probably have high
freeboard to lessen the chance of a polar bear from easily 'hopping
aboard' when you are anchored ... especially in summer when there is
no ice, the bears are concentrated on the beaches/shorelines and the
bears are 'hungry' and havent eaten much for several months (STRONG
companionway/hatches, etc). :-O


Nothing special needed for cruising in the Maritimes from May till October.
(well maybe a small source of heat to keep the dampness at bay until July)

High latitudes cruiser
 

"John" wrote in message
...
On Jan 28, 9:29 am, RichH wrote:
A boat for 'high latitudes' needs to be STRONG to be able to survive
the routine heavy weather that is characteristic of the high
latitudes.

Also, for the high Canadian Maritimes (northern Nwfld and Labrador +
Nunavik, etc.) and similar areas the boat should probably have high
freeboard to lessen the chance of a polar bear from easily 'hopping
aboard' when you are anchored ... especially in summer when there is
no ice, the bears are concentrated on the beaches/shorelines and the
bears are 'hungry' and havent eaten much for several months (STRONG
companionway/hatches, etc). :-O

Polar Bears??? seriously?


The only live polar bears I've seen were in the Toronto zoos.

High latitudes cruiser
 

........... 'high' Canadian Maritimes ..... not where the people live

Nothing special needed for cruising in the Maritimes from May till October.
(well maybe a small source of heat to keep the dampness at bay until July)

a heater that produces a bit of SMOKE will help keep the black flies
away.

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Jan 28, 9:29*am, RichH wrote:
A boat for 'high latitudes' needs to be STRONG to be able to survive
the routine heavy weather that is characteristic of the high
latitudes.

Also, for the high Canadian Maritimes (northern Nwfld and Labrador +
Nunavik, etc.) and similar areas the boat should probably have high
freeboard to lessen the chance of a polar bear from easily 'hopping
aboard' when you are anchored ... especially in summer when there is
no ice, the bears are concentrated on the beaches/shorelines and the
bears are 'hungry' and havent eaten much for several months (STRONG
companionway/hatches, etc). * :-O

Polar Bears??? seriously?

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Jan 28, 7:44*am, Bob wrote:

port lights 7"x15" with 3/8" glass not picture widows like Red Cloud
has.... uh, had. Think all groco bronze through hulls not plastic.
Think "small" sail plan 15.0 SA/D Ratio. Mine boat is 14.7 cutter.

http://sports.webshots.com/photo/205...63212926eSPzLW

3/8 glass is for put'z like you Bob. RedCloud has 3/4" and 1" thick
armoured glass in bronze ports. Think Monel not bronze thru hulls in
ice.

BTW look at the big picture windows on this boat:
http://www.damocles-eu.org/artman/up...ara-arctic.jpg

Tara's been iced in for many mo's now.

Joe






But now some one will say, "but if you have a fast boat you can out
run a storm." *to that I say, bull****.

I have one. I live at N45. Just need to drive it hard. ..............
absolutly wonderfull !

Bob

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Jan 28, 8:54*am, Joe wrote:

* 3/8 glass is for put'z like you Bob. RedCloud has 3/4" and 1" thick
armoured glass in bronze ports. Think Monel not bronze thru hulls in
ice.

Joe


And Red Cloud is where???????????????? as I use to say years back, "on
the bottom." Or did the owners find that perfectly good boat which
scared them so badly they had to call for Mr. Wizzard to take them
back home.

Getting iced in aint such a feat. Heck, when I spent two winters at
the marina on RM 271 of the Columbia River there were McGregors,
Ericksons, catalinas even a couple paddle boats too. all frozen solid
in 6" thick marina ice. Your point is what again?

Bob

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Jan 28, 12:27*pm, Bob wrote:
On Jan 28, 8:54*am, Joe wrote:

* 3/8 glass is for put'z like you Bob. RedCloud has 3/4" and 1" thick
armoured glass in bronze ports. Think Monel not bronze thru hulls in
ice.

Joe

And Red Cloud is where???????????????? as I use to say years back, "on
the bottom." Or did the owners find that perfectly good boat which
scared them so badly they had to call for Mr. Wizzard to take them
back home.

WTF does that have to do with ports and the thickness of the glass?
3/8" ...you might as well have Saran wrap. RedCloud loss had nothing
to do with her ports even if she still had as you said " picture
widows like Red Cloud
has.... uh, had." Just shows you know nothing about anything, cept
being an asshole.

Getting iced in aint such a feat. Heck, when I spent two winters at
the marina on RM 271 of the Columbia River there were McGregors,
Ericksons, catalinas even a couple paddle boats too. all frozen solid
in 6" thick marina ice. Your point is what again?

Point is your an asshole Bob.

Joe


Bob

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Jan 28, 11:09*am, Joe wrote:

Point is your an asshole Bob.

Joe

Well, Joe..........

Your right about the 3/8" glass thing. I have 3/8" polycarb not glass.
My mistake.

Also, as you say, I may very well be an asshole. But better an asshole
that than a pansy ass pussy.
What else ya got to blow out ur ass?
Bob

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Jan 28, 1:34*pm, Bob wrote:
On Jan 28, 11:09*am, Joe wrote:

Point is your an asshole Bob.

Joe

Well, Joe..........

Your right about the 3/8" glass thing. I have 3/8" polycarb not glass.
My mistake.

Either one will be good enough for sitting at the dock.


Also, as you say, I may very well be an asshole. But better an asshole
that than a pansy ass pussy.

Well I guess you stepped up from a pansyass pussy to an
asshole...congrats you're going places Bob.


What else ya got to blow out ur ass?

You...I'll make sure to flush.

Joe



Bob

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Jan 28, 11:51*am, Joe wrote:

Well I guess you stepped up from a pansyass pussy to an
asshole...congrats you're going places Bob.

What else ya got to blow out ur ass?

You...I'll make sure to flush.

Joe


Joe, you gaveup to easy! I was hopping for a better school yard
****ing match. Iv been up since 4am and am gettting a bit board.

So where is Red Cloud??
Bob

High latitudes cruiser
 

In article , Joe wrote:
On Jan 28, 7:44*am, Bob wrote:

port lights 7"x15" with 3/8" glass not picture widows like Red Cloud
has.... uh, had. Think all groco bronze through hulls not plastic.
Think "small" sail plan 15.0 SA/D Ratio. Mine boat is 14.7 cutter.

http://sports.webshots.com/photo/205...63212926eSPzLW

I've not been here long, but I looked back over some past stuff when the posts querying your whereabouts appeared a while back. She does look a tough old boat, and I'm sorry to hear she's lost.


3/8 glass is for put'z like you Bob. RedCloud has 3/4" and 1" thick
armoured glass in bronze ports. Think Monel not bronze thru hulls in
ice.

BTW look at the big picture windows on this boat:
http://www.damocles-eu.org/artman/up...ara-arctic.jpg

Nice setting! It certainly looks at home there. I've looked around the site there a little more, looks like it was custom built.

I suppose my next question is "what's a high lattitude?". I'd love to get up far enough north to see 'bergs.


Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

High latitudes cruiser
 

Heat of course, but the freeze thaw freeze cycle is very hard on varnish,
teak trim & decks, but the worst thing to watch is the plywood structure
under the fiberglass superstructures and decks delaminate from freezing.

Most boats are poorly insulated, they are drafty, old wooden boats seem to
fair the best.

I no longer live in Alaska,and enjoy the tropical areas of Puget Sound and
the Canadian Gulf Islands for Winter cruising. I like to head north though
in late Spring and return in early Fall.

Hope this helps answer your question.

Pat Harman
M/V Meriwether


"Justin C" wrote in message
e.com...

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

High latitudes cruiser
 

In article , Bob wrote:

Take a look at this approach.

the sail boat Seal......... pretty cool boat

http://www.expeditionsail.com/

That is some boat. I looked at the build photos, she's certainly built tough. Thanks for the pointer.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

High latitudes cruiser
 

A heater, defroster, insulation and heated clear view screens. Possibly a
storage location for your immersion suits. As opposed to your water skies.
Steve

"Justin C" wrote in message
e.com...

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

High latitudes cruiser
 

I no longer live in Alaska,and enjoy the tropical areas of Puget Sound and
the Canadian Gulf Islands for Winter cruising.

Ah yes, tropical Puget Sound. How much snow did you get last night in
tropical Puget Sound? ;)
Gordon

High latitudes cruiser
 

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:28:40 -0000, Justin C
wrote:

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Heating on yachts is often a bad joke. Presumably a hi lat boat has a
good furnace. There is one originally intended for trucks that is
supposed to be pretty good.

Casady

Airtronic aka Espar or
Wabasco

Little diesel powered hot air heaters, forced hot air heat in your boat.

Warm AND dry.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, heavn!

High latitudes cruiser
 

Bob wrote:
On Jan 28, 4:28 am, Justin C wrote:

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.
Justin C, by the sea.


Hey Justin:
They need to be designed by a navel architect for specific areas of
operation not a marketing vp who wants a cheep fleet for their bare
boat charter fleet in margarita Ville.

Think "slow... heavy... stout" = expensive. Small cockpits but people
dont like them cause they cant intertain a cocktail party. Think small
port lights 7"x15" with 3/8" glass not picture widows like Red Cloud
has.... uh, had. Think all groco bronze through hulls not plastic.
Think "small" sail plan 15.0 SA/D Ratio. Mine boat is 14.7 cutter.

But now some one will say, "but if you have a fast boat you can out
run a storm." to that I say, bull****.

I have one. I live at N45. Just need to drive it hard. ..............
absolutly wonderfull !

Bob



I've got a Brewer designed Murray 33.

10AWG steel, 16,000lbs, 2" urethane foam insulation, cutter rig.

Drive it REAL hard.

From Ted's web site:
# LOA---33' 0"
# LWL---26' 9"
# BEAM---10' 11"
# DRAFT---4' 11"
# BALLAST---5000 lbs.
# SAIL AREA---535 sq. ft.
# DISPLACEMENT---13130 lbs. (No, 16,000 light on scale)
# DISPL/LENGTH RATIO---306
# SA/DISPL RATIO---15.4
# PRISMATIC COEFF---.545
# CAPSIZE SCREENING FACTOR---1.86
# TANKS---30 gals. Fuel, 50-60 gals. Water

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Jan 28, 5:21*pm, hpeer wrote:


I've got a Brewer designed Murray 33.

10AWG steel, 16,000lbs, 2" urethane foam insulation, cutter rig.

Drive it REAL hard.

Hey,
I heard the name but never seen one..... Just searched and found this

http://www.tedbrewer.com/sail_steel/murray33.htm

Damn.............. that is a stout boat! Humm, steel in 33 feet, no
bow sprit! Cool. Sorta looks like a Cascade on the underside.
Must be fun.
Do you live on it?

Back to what is high lats......... I found that saling types in San
Diego and LA call SF northern california, Those in SF call north of 45
bad and woolly. those of us at N45 look at 48N and go burr and then
there are those fools north of the 50 line ?!?!?!? WTF is that all
about? Spent two summers in the Bering on some 80' boats. figure a
blow once every 1-2 weeks of 40k-50k and 20-30' seas. of course there
is the 1-2 days of building and then 1-2 days abating. not bad
overall. I got to see the sun twice. Once for about 30 min the other
for about 10 min..............

But sitting in a 33' sailboat in that stuff would be significanlty
diffrent than sitting in a hot tub drinking hot sake while someone
else is driving the boat ;)

Bob

High latitudes cruiser
 

Bob wrote:
On Jan 28, 5:21 pm, hpeer wrote:

I've got a Brewer designed Murray 33.

10AWG steel, 16,000lbs, 2" urethane foam insulation, cutter rig.

Drive it REAL hard.

Hey,
I heard the name but never seen one..... Just searched and found this

http://www.tedbrewer.com/sail_steel/murray33.htm

Damn.............. that is a stout boat! Humm, steel in 33 feet, no
bow sprit! Cool. Sorta looks like a Cascade on the underside.
Must be fun.
Do you live on it?

Back to what is high lats......... I found that saling types in San
Diego and LA call SF northern california, Those in SF call north of 45
bad and woolly. those of us at N45 look at 48N and go burr and then
there are those fools north of the 50 line ?!?!?!? WTF is that all
about? Spent two summers in the Bering on some 80' boats. figure a
blow once every 1-2 weeks of 40k-50k and 20-30' seas. of course there
is the 1-2 days of building and then 1-2 days abating. not bad
overall. I got to see the sun twice. Once for about 30 min the other
for about 10 min..............

But sitting in a 33' sailboat in that stuff would be significanlty
diffrent than sitting in a hot tub drinking hot sake while someone
else is driving the boat ;)

Bob



Actually the cutter version (which I have) has a small bow sprit.

I am fortunate enough to get 6 weeks out of the kennel to go romp on my
boat. Last year I went from Sydney, NS to Lewisporte, NL and went
through 51N doing it. I live on her for a few weeks in the summer.

My wife swears to me that this summer she will spend some time on board.
Well maybe forth time is a charm?

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Jan 28, 3:04*pm, Bob wrote:
On Jan 28, 11:51*am, Joe wrote:

Well I guess you stepped up from a pansyass pussy to an
asshole...congrats you're going places Bob.
What else ya got to blow out ur ass?
You...I'll make sure to flush.
Joe

Joe, you gaveup to easy! I was hopping for a better school yard
****ing match. Iv been up since 4am and am gettting a bit board.

It's hard to tell, you're quite boring most the time anyway. I had to
go work on a boat part.

So where is Red Cloud??
Bob

Not sure Bob..

I hope Vito got her, his lifes ambition was to be a pirate of the
Caribbean.
He said he would name her "Fist of Fury" on one side and "Enter the
Dragon" on the other. Until I see her again, besides in my dreams,
I'd just be guessing..but if you want a guess I'd say the NW corner of
the Sigsbee deep about 30 leagues south of the west bank of the flower
gardens.

Joe

High latitudes cruiser
 

Bob wrote:
On Jan 28, 5:21 pm, hpeer wrote:

I've got a Brewer designed Murray 33.

10AWG steel, 16,000lbs, 2" urethane foam insulation, cutter rig.

Drive it REAL hard.

Hey,
I heard the name but never seen one..... Just searched and found this

http://www.tedbrewer.com/sail_steel/murray33.htm

Damn.............. that is a stout boat! Humm, steel in 33 feet, no
bow sprit! Cool. Sorta looks like a Cascade on the underside.
Must be fun.
Do you live on it?

Back to what is high lats......... I found that saling types in San
Diego and LA call SF northern california, Those in SF call north of 45
bad and woolly. those of us at N45 look at 48N and go burr and then
there are those fools north of the 50 line ?!?!?!? WTF is that all
about? Spent two summers in the Bering on some 80' boats. figure a
blow once every 1-2 weeks of 40k-50k and 20-30' seas. of course there
is the 1-2 days of building and then 1-2 days abating. not bad
overall. I got to see the sun twice. Once for about 30 min the other
for about 10 min..............

But sitting in a 33' sailboat in that stuff would be significanlty
diffrent than sitting in a hot tub drinking hot sake while someone
else is driving the boat ;)

Bob


Actually the cutter version (which I have) has a stubby bow sprit, about
3'. I am fortunate enough that my handlers let me loose for 6 weeks
(w/o pay) in the summer to go play. Last year I moved her from Sydney,
NS to Lewisporte, NL and went through 51N in the process. Bergs! Cool!

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Jan 28, 6:21*pm, Joe wrote:

30 leagues south of the west bank of the flower
gardens.

Joe

Ah, the flower gardens........ havent been there in a while. Lots of
spinnys. I heard its a nature preserve or somthing now..

To bad bout the boat.......... Its the great circle of life Simba.
bob

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Jan 28, 8:27*pm, Bob wrote:
On Jan 28, 6:21*pm, Joe wrote:

30 leagues south of the west bank of the flower
gardens.
Joe

Ah, the flower gardens........ havent been there in a while. Lots of
spinnys. I heard its a nature preserve or somthing now..

Yelp..We use to get some of the best spinny's you ever seen off the
well heads and platforms we were removing for Mobil..6-8 inch spines
orange and purple mostly..Caught a 270- lb Warsaw grouper there at
High Island 386. We use to average 700 to 1000 lbs of snapper every 2
weeks on. Worked stand-by boats there for a couple years for Point
Marine. The Point T and the Point Barrow.

To bad bout the boat.......... Its the great circle of life Simba.

"Life's a bitch and then you die" forgot who said that, but it's been
that kind of a day.

Joe

bob

High latitudes cruiser
 

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:28:40 -0000, Justin C
wrote:

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Heating on yachts is often a bad joke. Presumably a hi lat boat has a
good furnace. There is one originally intended for trucks that is
supposed to be pretty good.

Casady


Thinking about this answer a little more; the same attributes that make
a boat a good high latitude cruiser are pretty much the same set that
would work for a "single handed - long range cruiser."

In both cases the crew is going to be more concerned with basic
necessities and comfort than for speed. So the boat design is focused
on safety and comfort and those two things are very interlinked for if
the crew gets tired and depleted then they will be prone to make
mistakes. The boat needs to have high safety margins for when the
inevitable mistakes happen.

One of the basic facts of high latitude sailing is that there are few
others around to help you out. Even if you have a crew with you the
boat needs to be self sufficient, single or high or both.

Singlehanded Sailing: The Experiences and Techniques of the Lone
Voyagers by Richard Henderson is good.

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:17:26 -0500, hpeer wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:28:40 -0000, Justin C
wrote:

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Heating on yachts is often a bad joke. Presumably a hi lat boat has a
good furnace. There is one originally intended for trucks that is
supposed to be pretty good.

Casady

Airtronic aka Espar or
Wabasco

Little diesel powered hot air heaters, forced hot air heat in your boat.

Warm AND dry.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, heavn!

Wabasco seems to ring a bell. Written up in passagemaker if I recall
correctly. Whichever, it got rave reviews. Had a way to keep the
engine warm, maybe it just heated and circulated the glycol with
automotive type heaters where needed. I do remember thinking, that's
one problem solved. They were originally for trucks, and for that you
do have to heat the glycol. Anything intended for trucks would be
fairly compact, usually a virtue.

Casady

High latitudes cruiser
 

Singlehanded Sailing: The Experiences and Techniques of the Lone
Voyagers by Richard Henderson is good.

and very cheap if purchased used thru ABE books.
G

High latitudes cruiser
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"John" wrote in message
...
On Jan 28, 9:29 am, RichH wrote:
A boat for 'high latitudes' needs to be STRONG to be able to survive
the routine heavy weather that is characteristic of the high
latitudes.

Also, for the high Canadian Maritimes (northern Nwfld and Labrador +
Nunavik, etc.) and similar areas the boat should probably have high
freeboard to lessen the chance of a polar bear from easily 'hopping
aboard' when you are anchored ... especially in summer when there is
no ice, the bears are concentrated on the beaches/shorelines and the
bears are 'hungry' and havent eaten much for several months (STRONG
companionway/hatches, etc). :-O

Polar Bears??? seriously?


The only live polar bears I've seen were in the Toronto zoos.

There's an excerpt in Good Old Boat Jan/Feb 2008 from the Martins' book
"Into The LIght" about a bear chasing their boat and appearing quite capable
of getting aboard. I think I read somewhere (as always!) that Polar Bears
actually see humans as prey and that they are the only mammal that does. I
think the definition had somethig to do with other mamals seeing us only as
second-rate when the opportunity presents.
Hoges in WA

High latitudes cruiser
 

Justin C wrote in
e.com:


What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Justin.

Take a look at http://www.expeditionsail.com/ to see the boat of some
wonderful people that we met in Belize. They take people on multi-month
charters to Antarctica and South Georgia. This was an amazing boat as I've
never seen anything like it before. They were just written up in Cruising
World a few months ago.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

High latitudes cruiser
 

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:17:26 -0500, hpeer wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:28:40 -0000, Justin C
wrote:

What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.
Heating on yachts is often a bad joke. Presumably a hi lat boat has a
good furnace. There is one originally intended for trucks that is
supposed to be pretty good.

Casady
Airtronic aka Espar or
Wabasco

Little diesel powered hot air heaters, forced hot air heat in your boat.

Warm AND dry.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, heavn!

Wabasco seems to ring a bell. Written up in passagemaker if I recall
correctly. Whichever, it got rave reviews. Had a way to keep the
engine warm, maybe it just heated and circulated the glycol with
automotive type heaters where needed. I do remember thinking, that's
one problem solved. They were originally for trucks, and for that you
do have to heat the glycol. Anything intended for trucks would be
fairly compact, usually a virtue.

Casady

My Espar is about the size of a loaf of bread, the hoses are quite large
of necessity.

Damned expensive though.

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:55:12 GMT, "Hoges in WA"
wrote:

I think I read somewhere (as always!) that Polar Bears
actually see humans as prey and that they are the only mammal that does. I

All the big cats can take up maneating. Rare but it happens. Elsa the
lioness in the book and film took it up later in life, so they killed
her. Among non-mammels, the nile crocadile will go for an available
human every time. If he is big enough he will go for you. Saw some
film on public TV where a croc burst from the water and chased and
caught an antelope, impala I think, that was at least fifty feet from
the water. They eat tens of thousands of people a year in Africa.

Casady

High latitudes cruiser
 

In article , Geoff Schultz wrote:
Justin C wrote in
e.com:
What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen a
few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue water"
cruiser.

Take a look at http://www.expeditionsail.com/ to see the boat of some
wonderful people that we met in Belize. They take people on multi-month
charters to Antarctica and South Georgia. This was an amazing boat as I've
never seen anything like it before. They were just written up in Cruising
World a few months ago.

Thanks Geoff, someone else did mention this. Have you checked out the build photos? I don't know anything about boat building, but it sure looks tough - I especially like the water-tight bulkheads.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

High latitudes cruiser
 

Justin C wrote in
:

In article , Geoff
Schultz wrote:
Justin C wrote in
e.com:
What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen
a few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue
water" cruiser.

Take a look at http://www.expeditionsail.com/ to see the boat of some
wonderful people that we met in Belize. They take people on
multi-month charters to Antarctica and South Georgia. This was an
amazing boat as I've never seen anything like it before. They were
just written up in Cruising World a few months ago.

Thanks Geoff, someone else did mention this. Have you checked out the
build photos? I don't know anything about boat building, but it sure
looks tough - I especially like the water-tight bulkheads.

Justin.

After the fact I saw that someone else had published their URL. However, I
have the advantage of having spent a week or so anchored next to them and
spent time aboard Seal. They had it on a shake-down cruise to Belize. The
boat definately wasn't set up for NW Caribbean heat, but they did make some
changes based upon things they learned.

To say that it was unlike any boat that I've ever been on is an
understatement. Theyworry about things that I've never even thought about!

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

High latitudes cruiser
 

On Jan 30, 6:19*pm, Geoff Schultz wrote:
Justin C wrote :





In article , Geoff
Schultz wrote:
Justin C wrote in
lue.com:
What makes a boat a "high latitudes" cruiser? It's a term I've seen
a few times and I'd like to know what makes it different to a "blue
water" cruiser.

Take a look athttp://www.expeditionsail.com/to see the boat of some
wonderful people that we met in Belize. *They take people on
multi-month charters to Antarctica and South Georgia. *This was an
amazing boat as I've never seen anything like it before. *They were
just written up in Cruising World a few months ago.

Thanks Geoff, someone else did mention this. Have you checked out the
build photos? I don't know anything about boat building, but it sure
looks tough - I especially like the water-tight bulkheads.

* * *Justin.

After the fact I saw that someone else had published their URL. *However, I
have the advantage of having spent a week or so anchored next to them and
spent time aboard Seal. *They had it on a shake-down cruise to Belize. *The
boat definately wasn't set up for NW Caribbean heat, but they did make some
changes based upon things they learned. *

To say that it was unlike any boat that I've ever been on is an
understatement. *Theyworry about things that I've never even thought about! *

-- Geoffwww.GeoffSchultz.org- Hide quoted text -

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That's a good looking boat Geoff, but here is the champion of the
north.

http://www.taraexpeditions.org/fr/ga...fe927efa2d69eb

Joe