Call for experienced full time cruising (with/as) homeschooled
teenagers


Hi, Stacy,

I'm putting out your request to the various lists and forums I pester.

Lydia,
Your FlyingPigLog has inspired us to begin cruising in Oct 2008--with
our 15yr old daughter. This is "her hell-being stuck on a boat with
the 2 of us". I can think of nothing better than learning
geography, marine biology, world history, art/culture, first hand as
a cruiser. I am hoping you may know of another family cruising with
teenagers that might be willing to contact her. A positive response
from kids her age might get her excited.(we hope)

Keep in touch --we love reading your adventures and thanks for sharing
the FlyingPigLog.
stacy hall


Those of you reading who fit the bill - either current or past parents
of and more particularly the real-deal teenagers cruising full time,
homeschooled, etc., please responde to Stacy directly at stacyk40 at
hotmail (period sign) com...

L8R

Skip

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
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"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to
make it come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its
hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts."
(Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah)

Drop the kid off at boarding school .. and leave.

The little **** can sit in algebra class while mom and dad are off cruising.

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"Skip Gundlach" wrote in message
...
Call for experienced full time cruising (with/as) homeschooled
teenagers


Hi, Stacy,

I'm putting out your request to the various lists and forums I pester.

Lydia,
Your FlyingPigLog has inspired us to begin cruising in Oct 2008--with
our 15yr old daughter. This is "her hell-being stuck on a boat with
the 2 of us". I can think of nothing better than learning
geography, marine biology, world history, art/culture, first hand as
a cruiser. I am hoping you may know of another family cruising with
teenagers that might be willing to contact her. A positive response
from kids her age might get her excited.(we hope)

Keep in touch --we love reading your adventures and thanks for sharing
the FlyingPigLog.
stacy hall


Those of you reading who fit the bill - either current or past parents
of and more particularly the real-deal teenagers cruising full time,
homeschooled, etc., please responde to Stacy directly at stacyk40 at
hotmail (period sign) com...

L8R

Skip

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery !
Follow us at http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog and/or
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog

"You are never given a wish without also being given the power to
make it come true. You may have to work for it however."
(and)
"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its
hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts."
(Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah)

On 2008-01-09 17:17:11 -0500, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale"
said:

Drop the kid off at boarding school .. and leave.

The little **** can sit in algebra class while mom and dad are off cruising.

Oh, Gawd! You've definitely demonstrated your incompetence.

Real cruising kids demonstrate far more intelligence. At a minimum,
they know where they are and where they want to be.

Jere Lull wrote in news:2008011001022875249-
jerelull@maccom:

Real cruising kids demonstrate far more intelligence. At a minimum,
they know where they are and where they want to be.



I met a family who sold it all and spent a year in Taiwan as their Globe
Yacht was being custom built...way back in the 70's. They spent some
time here in Charleston, and like I did for Lydia and Skip but without so
much boatwork, I played guide and taxi driver.

Their two sons were taking high school by correspondence course from the
University of Nebraska in a special program the university had for mobile
families. Upon successful completion, their acceptance into the
university was automatic, a real deal for the boys.

They were both way ahead of their "grade" for their age and would
graduate "high school" about 2 years ahead of "normal" for American kids.
They were also world-class sailors who had completed the same courses
towards their Masters licenses as their father.

It was amusing about the sailing school. When they got to California
from Taiwan via Hawaii, there was a nasty letter from the school
threatening to drop them from the class as the school hadn't heard from
them in a timely manner. I got to see the follow up letter before they
left after they sent the school their "excuse" for being late.....that
they were successfully navigating and sailing across the Pacific Ocean
and couldn't find a proper post office in the appointed time...(c; The
school's letter was MOST apologetic...and encouraging them to continue.

I'll never forget the beautiful hand-carved pair of DRAGONS done in
polished teak that went from port to starboard over the forward main
cabin hatch that adorned the forward bulkhead. The work throughout the
boat was just beautiful. She was around 60-65' as I remember and quite
self-sufficient for world travel.

Larry
--
As the price of Monopoly money rises, at some point it will equal
Federal Reserve Private Bank fake banknotes in value!

The kids in my old neighborhood did about the same thing...

They left high school to go cruising .. but first they stopped off at Paris
Island to visit the Marine Corp.

They cruised here and there, stopping off every now and then to kill people.

Once they finished their tour, no one would hire them, they didn't have a
college education.

The tour company, aka-Uncle Sam's Cruising and Sailing LLC, didn't seem to
give a crap
about them.

Many of them got into the pharmacy business, some actually became alcohol
tasters.

Those businesses take their toll on a guy.

Now? They live on relief, hang out on street corners, talk about the good
old days of cruising.

Pardon me, if I don't give a rat's ass whether some rich **** 15 year old
gets to go hang out
on mommy and daddy's yacht.

==============
"Larry" wrote in message
...
Jere Lull wrote in news:2008011001022875249-
jerelull@maccom:

Real cruising kids demonstrate far more intelligence. At a minimum,
they know where they are and where they want to be.



I met a family who sold it all and spent a year in Taiwan as their Globe
Yacht was being custom built...way back in the 70's. They spent some
time here in Charleston, and like I did for Lydia and Skip but without so
much boatwork, I played guide and taxi driver.

Their two sons were taking high school by correspondence course from the
University of Nebraska in a special program the university had for mobile
families. Upon successful completion, their acceptance into the
university was automatic, a real deal for the boys.

They were both way ahead of their "grade" for their age and would
graduate "high school" about 2 years ahead of "normal" for American kids.
They were also world-class sailors who had completed the same courses
towards their Masters licenses as their father.

It was amusing about the sailing school. When they got to California
from Taiwan via Hawaii, there was a nasty letter from the school
threatening to drop them from the class as the school hadn't heard from
them in a timely manner. I got to see the follow up letter before they
left after they sent the school their "excuse" for being late.....that
they were successfully navigating and sailing across the Pacific Ocean
and couldn't find a proper post office in the appointed time...(c; The
school's letter was MOST apologetic...and encouraging them to continue.

I'll never forget the beautiful hand-carved pair of DRAGONS done in
polished teak that went from port to starboard over the forward main
cabin hatch that adorned the forward bulkhead. The work throughout the
boat was just beautiful. She was around 60-65' as I remember and quite
self-sufficient for world travel.

Larry
--
As the price of Monopoly money rises, at some point it will equal
Federal Reserve Private Bank fake banknotes in value!

"Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote in
news:ZKohj.3904$K%6.3803@trndny04:

Pardon me, if I don't give a rat's ass whether some rich **** 15 year
old gets to go hang out
on mommy and daddy's yacht.



Wow...are you in the wrong newsgroup.....

Larry
--
As the price of Monopoly money rises, at some point it will equal
Federal Reserve Private Bank fake banknotes in value!

On Jan 9, 2:13 pm, Skip Gundlach wrote:

Call for experienced full time cruising (with/as) homeschooled
teenagers

As a past Medium Security Juvenile Detention Facility (age 12-17)
Group Worker (guard), Oregon Licensed Teacher (K-8), past cruiser now
liveaboard, and good Dad to a daughter now 20 y.o.

Don't take you 15 year old cruising. A couple weeks WITH a friend is
fine. DO NOT think youre going to sail for months and she is going to
love learning geography-marine biology etc and develop a love for all
things you think you love. Besides, helping a kid learn (notice I did
not say "teach") is not a simple task. Try this.......... Go get a manual
titled, "Learn How To Fly". Read the book. Get into an airplane, Now
go take off, fly around and land. Silly analogy????? Then go help a
kid learn about two digit subtraction with regrouping. Or better
yet......... algebra in your case. Just because you have a book (home school
curriculum materials) don't mean its going work. You need to know what
your doing.

In other words, have you ever tried to tile a room, make your first
quilt, etc. Imagine how you ****ed up the first few times and had to
start over again before you got it right???
Now how you going to help your daughter learn algebra or persuasive
writing so they will pass the SATs. You AINT no teacher and your not
the center of your daughters universe. She would LOVE to visit you
with a friend. But 24/7 and no friends???? You got to be kidding. This
is a time when kids are doing their best to become independent adults.
Allow her to do that and stop being so god damn selfish. You are no
longer the center of her universe. SOrry to say they grow up and get
their won life. Give her that chance to grow up and let her stay with
relatives. Or maybe youre thingking "but noone is as good a parent as
me. I cant trust anyone with my daughter for that long." If so you
reall are one sick controlling parent.

At age 15 the most important thing in her life AINT YOU!

Bob

Stacy,
We have been sailing with both our kids, two boys, since each of them were
born. They were two weeks old when they first went sailing and we have
sailed as a family ever since. Today one is in college and the other is
finishing high school.

I think that you are asking a lot from your daughter to leave at age 15 and
move onto the boat with you. The high school years are a time of
socialization for kids and a time that they want to be with there peers and
not with their elders. If you had been sailing as a family for all of her
formative years then your daughter may have continued for another year but
at age 15 or 16 she probably would have talked to you about her staying
ashore for her high school years.

My advice would be to sit out the next few years and when she walks out the
door for college, leap aboard and go. She can visit you for a few weeks
during vacations and she will appreciate the beautiful places that you bring
her for her breaks.

Cheers

Ansley Sawyer
SV Pacem

Pardon me, if I don't give a rat's ass whether some rich **** 15 year old
gets to go hang out on mommy and daddy's yacht.

Besides being a complete ass, you've obviously not followed any of the Skip
threads, nor met or even laid eyes on them or their boat. Had you even a
sliver of actual knowlege of the situation you wouldn't be stupid enough to
make such remarks.

But apparently you're just a gasbag with nothing but insults to share.
Jerk.

As for the experience, oy, that's asking for trouble. Even with already
being homeschooled you're asking far too much out a 15 year old to go along
with that sort of plan. As has been suggested you'd do better to send the
child off to school instead. But even then you'd be asking her to abandon
everything going on in her life. At 15 that's not going to be a pleasant
departure. You do well to seriously rethink the plan or be entirely sure
the girl wants to go along with it. That's not an age where that's
likely...

Bill,, the overly sensitive guy ..

I have been following Captain Lydia and Crewmate Skip for ?? long time.
Before the shipwreck.

I never met them in person, then again, I doubt many of the posters here
have.

They seem like swell folks.

This in no way changes my opinion. If mommy and daddy want to go cruising,
great.
Leave the 15 year old in school.




"Bill Kearney" wrote in message
news
Pardon me, if I don't give a rat's ass whether some rich **** 15 year old
gets to go hang out on mommy and daddy's yacht.

Besides being a complete ass, you've obviously not followed any of the
Skip threads, nor met or even laid eyes on them or their boat. Had you
even a sliver of actual knowlege of the situation you wouldn't be stupid
enough to make such remarks.

But apparently you're just a gasbag with nothing but insults to share.
Jerk.

As for the experience, oy, that's asking for trouble. Even with already
being homeschooled you're asking far too much out a 15 year old to go
along with that sort of plan. As has been suggested you'd do better to
send the child off to school instead. But even then you'd be asking her
to abandon everything going on in her life. At 15 that's not going to be
a pleasant departure. You do well to seriously rethink the plan or be
entirely sure the girl wants to go along with it. That's not an age where
that's likely...