Paul, I think that may have changed or changed for certain models..

I wish I could lay my hands on that information but what I came across was
was a Pachific Seacraft that was for sail.. (I review a hundred listing a
month, when I don't have anything better to do.) It was touted as Hull #1
(first out of the mold) prior to the mold being shipped over to Tiawan for
the ultimate production run..

As it was explained to me, the plug and mold were made in the PS, So Cal.
facilities and then the hull and deck fit tested etc. The interior pattern
bulkhead and cabinetry patterns are also developed in So Cal., everything
until the first hull is completed and sea trialed... Kind of a test and
trial project. After that, the molds and patterns were sent to Tiawan..

Now, this may have been a boat that PS ultimately decided they didn't want
to put into production, with their name on it and sold the production rights
to a Tiawan yard.

The advert/listing for this boat high lighted the fact that this was hull #1
and was produced at PacSeacraft while all others were from Tiawan..

I'm not saying that any other Pac. Seacraft boats are made over in Tiawan.
But there seems to be at least on model that was..

Pacific Seacraft, IMHO, is one of the best in quality. Right up there with
Shannon which I also like..

BTW.. Someone mentioned that Crealock was the primary designer of the PS
boats.. Bruce Bingham did some of the smaller boats and may have had a hand
in some of the nice interior designs of others.

--
My opinion and experience. FWIW

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Steve wrote:
Paul, I think that may have changed or changed for certain models..

I wish I could lay my hands on that information but what I came across was
was a Pachific Seacraft that was for sail.. (I review a hundred listing a
month, when I don't have anything better to do.) It was touted as Hull #1
(first out of the mold) prior to the mold being shipped over to Tiawan for
the ultimate production run..


This may refer to one of the trawlers (Nordhaven 40?) rather than
the sailboats. I'm pretty sure the sailboats are still built and
finished in Fullerton.

Cindy


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This may be related -- Pacific Seacraft had been making the Nordhavn
trawlers in Fullerton, but Nordhavn recently took the production of the
trawlers elsewhere (some or all of them, I'm not sure). Pacific Seacraft
also has their own trawler line. I don't know a lot about them, since I'm a
sailboat freak myself, but I did see some of each under construction when I
visited there.
-Paul

"Cindy Ballreich" wrote in message
...
Steve wrote:
Paul, I think that may have changed or changed for certain models..

I wish I could lay my hands on that information but what I came across
was
was a Pachific Seacraft that was for sail.. (I review a hundred listing
a
month, when I don't have anything better to do.) It was touted as Hull
#1
(first out of the mold) prior to the mold being shipped over to Tiawan
for
the ultimate production run..


This may refer to one of the trawlers (Nordhaven 40?) rather than
the sailboats. I'm pretty sure the sailboats are still built and
finished in Fullerton.

Cindy


--
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I have _heard_ that Pacific Seacraft was sold to a Japanese company. For sure
it was common knowledge that 3 or 4 or 5 years ago PS was on the edge of
insolvency. I most casually mentioned it in passing to a counter hostess at
the PS display at the Annapolis boat show and draw an unbelievably sharp
response.

This may be related -- Pacific Seacraft had been making the Nordhavn
trawlers in Fullerton, but Nordhavn recently took the production of the
trawlers elsewhere (some or all of them, I'm not sure). Pacific Seacraft
also has their own trawler line. I don't know a lot about them, since I'm a
sailboat freak myself, but I did see some of each under construction when I
visited there.
-Paul

"Cindy Ballreich" wrote in message
...
Steve wrote:
Paul, I think that may have changed or changed for certain models..

I wish I could lay my hands on that information but what I came across
was
was a Pachific Seacraft that was for sail.. (I review a hundred listing
a
month, when I don't have anything better to do.) It was touted as Hull
#1
(first out of the mold) prior to the mold being shipped over to Tiawan
for
the ultimate production run..


This may refer to one of the trawlers (Nordhaven 40?) rather than
the sailboats. I'm pretty sure the sailboats are still built and
finished in Fullerton.

Cindy


--
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As I recall from talking with Don Kohlman @ PSC, they were owned by a
Japanese company until fairly recently, but a few (4?) years ago they were
sold to an American individual investor. PSC has been operated by the same
crew for many years though. The Nordhavn contract really helped out with
the cash-flow for a while, but they have had to do some belt-tightening
recently. I think that they are in reasonable (but not great) shape now,
and they continue to get orders for new boats. I'm sure that they could use
more though.
-Paul


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I have _heard_ that Pacific Seacraft was sold to a Japanese company. For
sure
it was common knowledge that 3 or 4 or 5 years ago PS was on the edge of
insolvency. I most casually mentioned it in passing to a counter hostess
at
the PS display at the Annapolis boat show and draw an unbelievably sharp
response.

As I recall from talking with Don Kohlman @ PSC, they were owned by a
Japanese company until fairly recently, but a few (4?) years ago they were
sold to an American individual investor. PSC has been operated by the same
crew for many years though. The Nordhavn contract really helped out with
the cash-flow for a while, but they have had to do some belt-tightening
recently. I think that they are in reasonable (but not great) shape now,
and they continue to get orders for new boats. I'm sure that they could use
more though.
-Paul


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
I have _heard_ that Pacific Seacraft was sold to a Japanese company. For
sure
it was common knowledge that 3 or 4 or 5 years ago PS was on the edge of
insolvency. I most casually mentioned it in passing to a counter hostess
at
the PS display at the Annapolis boat show and draw an unbelievably sharp
response.

I have _heard_ that Pacific Seacraft was sold to a Japanese company. For sure
it was common knowledge that 3 or 4 or 5 years ago PS was on the edge of
insolvency. I most casually mentioned it in passing to a counter hostess at
the PS display at the Annapolis boat show and draw an unbelievably sharp
response.

This may be related -- Pacific Seacraft had been making the Nordhavn
trawlers in Fullerton, but Nordhavn recently took the production of the
trawlers elsewhere (some or all of them, I'm not sure). Pacific Seacraft
also has their own trawler line. I don't know a lot about them, since I'm a
sailboat freak myself, but I did see some of each under construction when I
visited there.
-Paul

"Cindy Ballreich" wrote in message
...
Steve wrote:
Paul, I think that may have changed or changed for certain models..

I wish I could lay my hands on that information but what I came across
was
was a Pachific Seacraft that was for sail.. (I review a hundred listing
a
month, when I don't have anything better to do.) It was touted as Hull
#1
(first out of the mold) prior to the mold being shipped over to Tiawan
for
the ultimate production run..


This may refer to one of the trawlers (Nordhaven 40?) rather than
the sailboats. I'm pretty sure the sailboats are still built and
finished in Fullerton.

Cindy


--
the return email is a spam trap
send legit emails to cindy_at_ballreich_dot_net

This may be related -- Pacific Seacraft had been making the Nordhavn
trawlers in Fullerton, but Nordhavn recently took the production of the
trawlers elsewhere (some or all of them, I'm not sure). Pacific Seacraft
also has their own trawler line. I don't know a lot about them, since I'm a
sailboat freak myself, but I did see some of each under construction when I
visited there.
-Paul

"Cindy Ballreich" wrote in message
...
Steve wrote:
Paul, I think that may have changed or changed for certain models..

I wish I could lay my hands on that information but what I came across
was
was a Pachific Seacraft that was for sail.. (I review a hundred listing
a
month, when I don't have anything better to do.) It was touted as Hull
#1
(first out of the mold) prior to the mold being shipped over to Tiawan
for
the ultimate production run..


This may refer to one of the trawlers (Nordhaven 40?) rather than
the sailboats. I'm pretty sure the sailboats are still built and
finished in Fullerton.

Cindy


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Bingo!! Cindy & Paul.. That just jogged my feible memory..

It was Nordhaven trawler.. Although I wouldn't have ever remember the
name..

I was up in Mystery Bay WA last summer and there was a beautiful large
trawler there at the dock for a couple days.. I struck up a conversation
with the owner.. He told me that it was Built by Pac. Seacraft and was hull
#1 and that all subsequent hulls were built in Tiawan..

I'm sure this trawler was larger than 40 ft.. Maybe 60 ft and now that I
think more about it, I think it was a limited production boat..

I also remember that it had a big John Deere diesel, bow thruster, etc. Nice
boat..

Sorry if I created some concern with all the devoted Pac. Seacraft owners. I
have always known that they build very fine boats..

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

Bingo!! Cindy & Paul.. That just jogged my feible memory..

It was Nordhaven trawler.. Although I wouldn't have ever remember the
name..

I was up in Mystery Bay WA last summer and there was a beautiful large
trawler there at the dock for a couple days.. I struck up a conversation
with the owner.. He told me that it was Built by Pac. Seacraft and was hull
#1 and that all subsequent hulls were built in Tiawan..

I'm sure this trawler was larger than 40 ft.. Maybe 60 ft and now that I
think more about it, I think it was a limited production boat..

I also remember that it had a big John Deere diesel, bow thruster, etc. Nice
boat..

Sorry if I created some concern with all the devoted Pac. Seacraft owners. I
have always known that they build very fine boats..

Steve
s/v Good Intentions