only the ignorant have to use cuss words, huh Jax?

Jax:

I don't think the extra weight of a cell phone is going to sink my
boat. Yours . . . well, perhaps that's a problem for you!

Eric

(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
say what you wish, but at this point the entire planet knows you are scared to
death of the water. Buy ALL the "safety" equipment you can find, dude. please
spend, and spend, and spend until your boat sinks at the dock with no chance to
ever become a floating navigation hazzard.

Jax:

I just love a battle of wits against an unarmed opponent!

Eric

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
eric, if you mind very much how about from now on you refer to you as
chicken**** instead of as eric.

Stay tied to the dock. Period. You are not qualified to be a sailor if
you
need a cell phone to tell you there is a thunderstorm in the 'hood.




And I most certainly would not trust you, or your judgement about weather!

Eric

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
eric, it seems you have seen just two thunderstorms in your life, and
one

of
them came "unexpectedly".

Trust me, eric, thunderstorms don't just "happen". I doubt I have been
surprised by one since I was 8 years old.

If you could see it you would have 16 1/2 hours (and if it was only
moving at 10 knots - that's pretty slow for a thunderstorm). The
point is - typical visibility at the surface is 7 to 10 miles on a
very clear day. With summer haze it is frequently much less than
that. If the storm moves 20 miles an hour (not all that fast for a
thunderstorm), 10 mile visibility gives me 1/2 hour. Moving at 6
knots, I can move my boat a little over three miles in that 1/2 hour.

Eric

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
yeah, right. at 165 nm way an 10 knots speed it will only take
16-1/2
hours
for a thunderstorm to get to you. FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
too
quickly
for you react. You really should buy a cell phone to tell you that a
storm
is
on its way and may hit you sometime tomorrown afternoon.

Gosh, maybe I need new glasses - when I'm in the Bay off Annapolis,
I
just can't see those clouds over Morgantown, West Virginia - a mere
165 nm away.

In fact, from the top of Old Rag mountain at over 3200 feet, most
days
I can't make out Washington, D.C. a mere 70 miles away (needless to
say, I don't do this in a sailboat).

Maybe I need Lasik!

Eric

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
There are lots of places where people sail and it's difficult to
see
a
thunderstorm coming

bull****. Thunderstorm clouds go as high as 60,000 feet
sometimes,
which
means
they can be seen up to 300 nm away. Even 10,000 foot high clouds
can
be
seen
up to 122 nm away. Can't see that coming?

And there are many places where the potential
exists every day in the summer

thunderstorms don't form inside of 30 seconds. You *KNOW* they
are
coming,
if
one just pays attention.

Jax:

I don't think the extra weight of a cell phone is going to sink my
boat. Yours . . . well, perhaps that's a problem for you!

Eric

(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
say what you wish, but at this point the entire planet knows you are scared to
death of the water. Buy ALL the "safety" equipment you can find, dude. please
spend, and spend, and spend until your boat sinks at the dock with no chance to
ever become a floating navigation hazzard.

Jax:

I just love a battle of wits against an unarmed opponent!

Eric

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
eric, if you mind very much how about from now on you refer to you as
chicken**** instead of as eric.

Stay tied to the dock. Period. You are not qualified to be a sailor if
you
need a cell phone to tell you there is a thunderstorm in the 'hood.




And I most certainly would not trust you, or your judgement about weather!

Eric

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
eric, it seems you have seen just two thunderstorms in your life, and
one

of
them came "unexpectedly".

Trust me, eric, thunderstorms don't just "happen". I doubt I have been
surprised by one since I was 8 years old.

If you could see it you would have 16 1/2 hours (and if it was only
moving at 10 knots - that's pretty slow for a thunderstorm). The
point is - typical visibility at the surface is 7 to 10 miles on a
very clear day. With summer haze it is frequently much less than
that. If the storm moves 20 miles an hour (not all that fast for a
thunderstorm), 10 mile visibility gives me 1/2 hour. Moving at 6
knots, I can move my boat a little over three miles in that 1/2 hour.

Eric

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
yeah, right. at 165 nm way an 10 knots speed it will only take
16-1/2
hours
for a thunderstorm to get to you. FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
too
quickly
for you react. You really should buy a cell phone to tell you that a
storm
is
on its way and may hit you sometime tomorrown afternoon.

Gosh, maybe I need new glasses - when I'm in the Bay off Annapolis,
I
just can't see those clouds over Morgantown, West Virginia - a mere
165 nm away.

In fact, from the top of Old Rag mountain at over 3200 feet, most
days
I can't make out Washington, D.C. a mere 70 miles away (needless to
say, I don't do this in a sailboat).

Maybe I need Lasik!

Eric

(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
There are lots of places where people sail and it's difficult to
see
a
thunderstorm coming

bull****. Thunderstorm clouds go as high as 60,000 feet
sometimes,
which
means
they can be seen up to 300 nm away. Even 10,000 foot high clouds
can
be
seen
up to 122 nm away. Can't see that coming?

And there are many places where the potential
exists every day in the summer

thunderstorms don't form inside of 30 seconds. You *KNOW* they
are
coming,
if
one just pays attention.

His theory is if you can't win your argument with logic, insult your opponent.

Hmmmm, maybe JAX should be in politics?

Eric

(Florida Keyz) wrote in message ...
only the ignorant have to use cuss words, huh Jax?

His theory is if you can't win your argument with logic, insult your opponent.

Hmmmm, maybe JAX should be in politics?

Eric

(Florida Keyz) wrote in message ...
only the ignorant have to use cuss words, huh Jax?

On 28 Jan 2004 13:34:45 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

jeff, ONLY a sailor of training wheels is totally oblivious to an approaching
thunderstorm until 10 minutes before it arrives. The rest of us know their
potential exists for that particular day well before we cast off, and we can
see one developing for a couple hours or more. This ain't rocket science,
except to those floating on training wheels (who be definition are scared
squatless of the water).

We now know, tragically, that this is complete BS.

Steve

On 28 Jan 2004 13:34:45 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

jeff, ONLY a sailor of training wheels is totally oblivious to an approaching
thunderstorm until 10 minutes before it arrives. The rest of us know their
potential exists for that particular day well before we cast off, and we can
see one developing for a couple hours or more. This ain't rocket science,
except to those floating on training wheels (who be definition are scared
squatless of the water).

We now know, tragically, that this is complete BS.

Steve

schlackoff? Are you saying the CG should require that ALL water taxis carry --
and monitor -- a radar enabled cell phone?

Do suppose it might be more effective to require water taxi drivers to be able
to understand weather?

Hey! Wait a minute! Water taxi drivers are required to be able to understand
weather.

So, schlackoff are you trying to tell us you have stock in some startup cell
phone company? Did you pick up Bernie Ebbers stock for pennies?

(JAXAshby) wrote:

jeff, ONLY a sailor of training wheels is totally oblivious to an
approaching
thunderstorm until 10 minutes before it arrives. The rest of us know their
potential exists for that particular day well before we cast off, and we can
see one developing for a couple hours or more. This ain't rocket science,
except to those floating on training wheels (who be definition are scared
squatless of the water).

We now know, tragically, that this is complete BS.

Steve

schlackoff? Are you saying the CG should require that ALL water taxis carry --
and monitor -- a radar enabled cell phone?

Do suppose it might be more effective to require water taxi drivers to be able
to understand weather?

Hey! Wait a minute! Water taxi drivers are required to be able to understand
weather.

So, schlackoff are you trying to tell us you have stock in some startup cell
phone company? Did you pick up Bernie Ebbers stock for pennies?

(JAXAshby) wrote:

jeff, ONLY a sailor of training wheels is totally oblivious to an
approaching
thunderstorm until 10 minutes before it arrives. The rest of us know their
potential exists for that particular day well before we cast off, and we can
see one developing for a couple hours or more. This ain't rocket science,
except to those floating on training wheels (who be definition are scared
squatless of the water).

We now know, tragically, that this is complete BS.

Steve

On 07 Mar 2004 15:51:45 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

schlackoff? Are you saying the CG should require that ALL water taxis carry --
and monitor -- a radar enabled cell phone?

Um, no. I'm saying that, as many have argued in the thread and as has
now been proven, your statement (quoted here again

jeff, ONLY a sailor of training wheels is totally oblivious to an
approaching
thunderstorm until 10 minutes before it arrives. The rest of us know their
potential exists for that particular day well before we cast off, and we can
see one developing for a couple hours or more. This ain't rocket science,
except to those floating on training wheels (who be definition are scared
squatless of the water).

is total BS.

Do suppose it might be more effective to require water taxi drivers to be able
to understand weather?

Hey! Wait a minute! Water taxi drivers are required to be able to understand
weather.

Understanding the weather wouldn't have mattered a whit in this case,
which is the point. There was a total of 10 minutes of warning for the
cell that hit the taxi. 10 minutes is nowhere near your claim of seeing
potential storms developing for hours or more. I.e, what happened is
exactly what you said can't happen. Your claim that "we can
see one developing for a couple hours or more" is now unequivocally
proven to be total BS, just as we all suspected.

Steve