On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:57:26 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

On 2007-12-05 15:21:11 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Not to mention the fact he "bore away" which indicates he was running so how
come there is a lee rail underwater?

You can bear away from a reach, too..... Even square riggers could reach.


From what I've read they *might* get 45 degrees off the wind but even
then it was slow going.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
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On 2007-12-06 06:07:42 -0500, Bruce in Bangkok said:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:57:26 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

On 2007-12-05 15:21:11 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Not to mention the fact he "bore away" which indicates he was running
so how come there is a lee rail underwater?

You can bear away from a reach, too..... Even square riggers could reach.


From what I've read they *might* get 45 degrees off the wind but even
then it was slow going.

Not sure they could get above about 60 without fore-aft sails, but even
with square riggers, the fastest point of sail is a beam reach, 90
degrees, so it's possible to bury the lee rail while screaming along.

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On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:24:11 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

Not sure they could get above about 60 without fore-aft sails, but even
with square riggers, the fastest point of sail is a beam reach, 90
degrees, so it's possible to bury the lee rail while screaming along.

Thing about burying the rail is that it does bad things for stability.
You never hear much about square riggers getting blown all the way
over. Of course, who would be left to tell the tale?

Casady

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:14:01 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 04:24:11 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

Not sure they could get above about 60 without fore-aft sails, but even
with square riggers, the fastest point of sail is a beam reach, 90
degrees, so it's possible to bury the lee rail while screaming along.

Thing about burying the rail is that it does bad things for stability.
You never hear much about square riggers getting blown all the way
over. Of course, who would be left to tell the tale?

Casady

Well, a lot of clippers were lost but I suspect that the top masts
would carry away before they turned over.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
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