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Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:59:12 -0500, "Wim" wrote:

" Mnay ppl have complained about slapping of halyards and wires inside
: their masts and are looking for solutions"


We have had a boat with 4 internal halyards for 14 seasons, and
chartered others before that. The only way we get slap is if the
outside part is left against the mast, never inside.

We also have internal halyards and we don't have slap per se, but we
do sometimes hear the halyards rattle inside the mast. I don't think
it can be heard off the boat, and it can only be heard on the boat if
it is relatively quiet.

Slap outside is something else, and usually you can see the marks that
whatever is slapping has made on the mast or boom or other part. We
tie our external halyards off on the pinrails except for the jib. We
have a little fender between it and the mast, and we also have it tied
out.

Just run your jib and spin halyards forward to the pulpit and the main
halyard to the boom end. The pole lift can go to the base of a
stanchion forward.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Curse thee, thou quadrant. No longer will I guide my earthly way by thee." Capt. Ahab

grandma Rosalie

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Rosalie B. wrote:

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Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:59:12 -0500, "Wim" wrote:

" Mnay ppl have complained about slapping of halyards and wires inside
: their masts and are looking for solutions"


We have had a boat with 4 internal halyards for 14 seasons, and
chartered others before that. The only way we get slap is if the
outside part is left against the mast, never inside.

We also have internal halyards and we don't have slap per se, but we
do sometimes hear the halyards rattle inside the mast. I don't think
it can be heard off the boat, and it can only be heard on the boat if
it is relatively quiet.

Slap outside is something else, and usually you can see the marks that
whatever is slapping has made on the mast or boom or other part. We
tie our external halyards off on the pinrails except for the jib. We
have a little fender between it and the mast, and we also have it tied
out.

Just run your jib and spin halyards forward to the pulpit and the main
halyard to the boom end. The pole lift can go to the base of a
stanchion forward.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC
J36 Gjo/a


"Curse thee, thou quadrant. No longer will I guide my earthly way by thee."
Capt. Ahab

grandma Rosalie

The only real cure for this problem is cut the mast down.
There is a blowboat in the slip behind me that has a banging haylard. It
is so loud the whole marina knows which boat it is, the guy has been
asked to fix it, the dockmaster has retied it so it doesn't bang, many
times. Jerko goes out and reties it so it bangs.
A chain saw is the only anwser.

Jake,

Let me start by saying that I have been a waterman and a sailor more
than fifty years.

-But-
The chain saw is a bad idea. Not that leaving the halyards slap is not
unbelievably inconsiderate, but if you were to cut through the mast, it
will fall. Because there will still be stays attached, it will most
likely go over the side. That will leave the cut end free to spear the
hull of the boat to one side and the truck to fall on the boat on the
other side.

Two options:

1. Get his vehicle disabled while he is sailing so he is forced to spend
the night on the boat.

2. Buy a big roll of the world's cheapest duck(t) tape (the kind that
does not peel well and leaves lots of sticky residue when removed) and
tightly wrap the the halyards to the mast as high as you can reach.

As you have metioned, the situation can be largely corrected with a very
small ammount of effort. A sailboat in a slip will make some wind noise
(even mine does) because it is not laying witht he wind as it would be
on a mooring. But there is no call to be inconsiderate of one's
neighbors.

Matt Colie A.Sloop "Bonne Ide'e"
Lifelong Waterman, Licensed Mariner and Perpetual Sailor


jake wrote:
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Rosalie B. wrote:


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Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:


On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:59:12 -0500, "Wim" wrote:


" Mnay ppl have complained about slapping of halyards and wires inside
: their masts and are looking for solutions"


We have had a boat with 4 internal halyards for 14 seasons, and
chartered others before that. The only way we get slap is if the
outside part is left against the mast, never inside.

We also have internal halyards and we don't have slap per se, but we
do sometimes hear the halyards rattle inside the mast. I don't think
it can be heard off the boat, and it can only be heard on the boat if
it is relatively quiet.

Slap outside is something else, and usually you can see the marks that
whatever is slapping has made on the mast or boom or other part. We
tie our external halyards off on the pinrails except for the jib. We
have a little fender between it and the mast, and we also have it tied
out.

Just run your jib and spin halyards forward to the pulpit and the main
halyard to the boom end. The pole lift can go to the base of a
stanchion forward.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC
J36 Gjo/a


"Curse thee, thou quadrant. No longer will I guide my earthly way by thee."
Capt. Ahab

grandma Rosalie


The only real cure for this problem is cut the mast down.
There is a blowboat in the slip behind me that has a banging haylard. It
is so loud the whole marina knows which boat it is, the guy has been
asked to fix it, the dockmaster has retied it so it doesn't bang, many
times. Jerko goes out and reties it so it bangs.
A chain saw is the only anwser.

Matt Colie wrote:

Two options:

1. Get his vehicle disabled while he is sailing so he is forced to
spend the night on the boat.

2. Buy a big roll of the world's cheapest duck(t) tape (the kind
that does not peel well and leaves lots of sticky residue when
removed) and tightly wrap the the halyards to the mast as high as
you can reach.

I like your suggestions, but it seems to me that they should only be carried
out by a well-armed individual.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com

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"Armond Perretta" wrote:

Matt Colie wrote:

Two options:

1. Get his vehicle disabled while he is sailing so he is forced to
spend the night on the boat.

2. Buy a big roll of the world's cheapest duck(t) tape (the kind
that does not peel well and leaves lots of sticky residue when
removed) and tightly wrap the the halyards to the mast as high as
you can reach.

I like your suggestions, but it seems to me that they should only be carried
out by a well-armed individual.

How many arms would one have to be well armed? Six - like an insect,
or would one extra one be enough?

grandma Rosalie

Rosalie B. wrote:
"Armond Perretta" wrote:
Matt Colie wrote:

1. Get his vehicle disabled ...
2. Buy a big roll of the world's cheapest duck(t) tape ... and tightly
wrap the the halyards to the mast ...

I like your suggestions, but ... they should only
be carried out by a well-armed individual.

How many arms would one have to be well armed? Six - like an
insect, or would one extra one be enough?

It's quality, not quantity, that we're looking for.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com

Rosalie B. wrote:
"Armond Perretta" wrote:
Matt Colie wrote:

1. Get his vehicle disabled ...
2. Buy a big roll of the world's cheapest duck(t) tape ... and tightly
wrap the the halyards to the mast ...

I like your suggestions, but ... they should only
be carried out by a well-armed individual.

How many arms would one have to be well armed? Six - like an
insect, or would one extra one be enough?

It's quality, not quantity, that we're looking for.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com

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"Armond Perretta" wrote:

Matt Colie wrote:

Two options:

1. Get his vehicle disabled while he is sailing so he is forced to
spend the night on the boat.

2. Buy a big roll of the world's cheapest duck(t) tape (the kind
that does not peel well and leaves lots of sticky residue when
removed) and tightly wrap the the halyards to the mast as high as
you can reach.

I like your suggestions, but it seems to me that they should only be carried
out by a well-armed individual.

How many arms would one have to be well armed? Six - like an insect,
or would one extra one be enough?

grandma Rosalie

Matt Colie wrote:

Two options:

1. Get his vehicle disabled while he is sailing so he is forced to
spend the night on the boat.

2. Buy a big roll of the world's cheapest duck(t) tape (the kind
that does not peel well and leaves lots of sticky residue when
removed) and tightly wrap the the halyards to the mast as high as
you can reach.

I like your suggestions, but it seems to me that they should only be carried
out by a well-armed individual.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 09:21:03 -0500, jake wrote:

The only real cure for this problem is cut the mast down.
There is a blowboat in the slip behind me that has a banging haylard. It
is so loud the whole marina knows which boat it is, the guy has been
asked to fix it, the dockmaster has retied it so it doesn't bang, many
times. Jerko goes out and reties it so it bangs.
A chain saw is the only anwser.
First, let me say that other peoples slapping halyards don't bother me
in the least. If one of *mine* starts slapping, it drives me nuts. So
much so that I'll crawl out of the rack in the middle of the night and
go up on deck in freezing rain to stop it.

Many years ago there was a guy in my marina with a bad case of slap
with wire halyards. "Tink" Tink" "Tink". 24/7. He refused to fix
it, saying; "It's music to my ears!" Not very neighborly. One night
someone cut his halyards and left them in piles on the deck. He had
to hire someone to run new ones. Years later, I learned that the guy
he hired was also the vandal (I use the word advisedly) who cut them.
A sorry affair all around, though not without its humorous aspects.

I leave you all with the sage advice of that wise philosopher, David
Lee Roth; "You're only as big as the things you let bug you.."

I have to close now as the owner of that sessile trawler 2 slips down
is "testing" his engines again, belching thick clouds of smoke and
ruining everyone's enjoyment of this fine Florida afternoon. I'm
going to West to buy the stuff to epoxy over his exhausts tonight.



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