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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:59:12 -0500, "Wim" wrote:
" Mnay ppl have complained about slapping of halyards and wires inside : their masts and are looking for solutions" We have had a boat with 4 internal halyards for 14 seasons, and chartered others before that. The only way we get slap is if the outside part is left against the mast, never inside. Just run your jib and spin halyards forward to the pulpit and the main halyard to the boom end. The pole lift can go to the base of a stanchion forward. Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a "Curse thee, thou quadrant. No longer will I guide my earthly way by thee." Capt. Ahab |
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Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:59:12 -0500, "Wim" wrote: " Mnay ppl have complained about slapping of halyards and wires inside : their masts and are looking for solutions" We have had a boat with 4 internal halyards for 14 seasons, and chartered others before that. The only way we get slap is if the outside part is left against the mast, never inside. We also have internal halyards and we don't have slap per se, but we do sometimes hear the halyards rattle inside the mast. I don't think it can be heard off the boat, and it can only be heard on the boat if it is relatively quiet. Slap outside is something else, and usually you can see the marks that whatever is slapping has made on the mast or boom or other part. We tie our external halyards off on the pinrails except for the jib. We have a little fender between it and the mast, and we also have it tied out. Just run your jib and spin halyards forward to the pulpit and the main halyard to the boom end. The pole lift can go to the base of a stanchion forward. Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a "Curse thee, thou quadrant. No longer will I guide my earthly way by thee." Capt. Ahab grandma Rosalie |
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Rosalie B. wrote: x-no-archive:yes Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:59:12 -0500, "Wim" wrote: " Mnay ppl have complained about slapping of halyards and wires inside : their masts and are looking for solutions" We have had a boat with 4 internal halyards for 14 seasons, and chartered others before that. The only way we get slap is if the outside part is left against the mast, never inside. We also have internal halyards and we don't have slap per se, but we do sometimes hear the halyards rattle inside the mast. I don't think it can be heard off the boat, and it can only be heard on the boat if it is relatively quiet. Slap outside is something else, and usually you can see the marks that whatever is slapping has made on the mast or boom or other part. We tie our external halyards off on the pinrails except for the jib. We have a little fender between it and the mast, and we also have it tied out. Just run your jib and spin halyards forward to the pulpit and the main halyard to the boom end. The pole lift can go to the base of a stanchion forward. Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a "Curse thee, thou quadrant. No longer will I guide my earthly way by thee." Capt. Ahab grandma Rosalie The only real cure for this problem is cut the mast down. There is a blowboat in the slip behind me that has a banging haylard. It is so loud the whole marina knows which boat it is, the guy has been asked to fix it, the dockmaster has retied it so it doesn't bang, many times. Jerko goes out and reties it so it bangs. A chain saw is the only anwser. |
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Jake,
Let me start by saying that I have been a waterman and a sailor more than fifty years. -But- The chain saw is a bad idea. Not that leaving the halyards slap is not unbelievably inconsiderate, but if you were to cut through the mast, it will fall. Because there will still be stays attached, it will most likely go over the side. That will leave the cut end free to spear the hull of the boat to one side and the truck to fall on the boat on the other side. Two options: 1. Get his vehicle disabled while he is sailing so he is forced to spend the night on the boat. 2. Buy a big roll of the world's cheapest duck(t) tape (the kind that does not peel well and leaves lots of sticky residue when removed) and tightly wrap the the halyards to the mast as high as you can reach. As you have metioned, the situation can be largely corrected with a very small ammount of effort. A sailboat in a slip will make some wind noise (even mine does) because it is not laying witht he wind as it would be on a mooring. But there is no call to be inconsiderate of one's neighbors. Matt Colie A.Sloop "Bonne Ide'e" Lifelong Waterman, Licensed Mariner and Perpetual Sailor jake wrote: In article , Rosalie B. wrote: x-no-archive:yes Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:59:12 -0500, "Wim" wrote: " Mnay ppl have complained about slapping of halyards and wires inside : their masts and are looking for solutions" We have had a boat with 4 internal halyards for 14 seasons, and chartered others before that. The only way we get slap is if the outside part is left against the mast, never inside. We also have internal halyards and we don't have slap per se, but we do sometimes hear the halyards rattle inside the mast. I don't think it can be heard off the boat, and it can only be heard on the boat if it is relatively quiet. Slap outside is something else, and usually you can see the marks that whatever is slapping has made on the mast or boom or other part. We tie our external halyards off on the pinrails except for the jib. We have a little fender between it and the mast, and we also have it tied out. Just run your jib and spin halyards forward to the pulpit and the main halyard to the boom end. The pole lift can go to the base of a stanchion forward. Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a "Curse thee, thou quadrant. No longer will I guide my earthly way by thee." Capt. Ahab grandma Rosalie The only real cure for this problem is cut the mast down. There is a blowboat in the slip behind me that has a banging haylard. It is so loud the whole marina knows which boat it is, the guy has been asked to fix it, the dockmaster has retied it so it doesn't bang, many times. Jerko goes out and reties it so it bangs. A chain saw is the only anwser. |
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Matt Colie wrote:
Two options: 1. Get his vehicle disabled while he is sailing so he is forced to spend the night on the boat. 2. Buy a big roll of the world's cheapest duck(t) tape (the kind that does not peel well and leaves lots of sticky residue when removed) and tightly wrap the the halyards to the mast as high as you can reach. I like your suggestions, but it seems to me that they should only be carried out by a well-armed individual. -- Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://kerrydeare.tripod.com |
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"Armond Perretta" wrote: Matt Colie wrote: Two options: 1. Get his vehicle disabled while he is sailing so he is forced to spend the night on the boat. 2. Buy a big roll of the world's cheapest duck(t) tape (the kind that does not peel well and leaves lots of sticky residue when removed) and tightly wrap the the halyards to the mast as high as you can reach. I like your suggestions, but it seems to me that they should only be carried out by a well-armed individual. How many arms would one have to be well armed? Six - like an insect, or would one extra one be enough? grandma Rosalie |
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Rosalie B. wrote:
"Armond Perretta" wrote: Matt Colie wrote: 1. Get his vehicle disabled ... 2. Buy a big roll of the world's cheapest duck(t) tape ... and tightly wrap the the halyards to the mast ... I like your suggestions, but ... they should only be carried out by a well-armed individual. How many arms would one have to be well armed? Six - like an insect, or would one extra one be enough? It's quality, not quantity, that we're looking for. -- Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://kerrydeare.tripod.com |
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Rosalie B. wrote:
"Armond Perretta" wrote: Matt Colie wrote: 1. Get his vehicle disabled ... 2. Buy a big roll of the world's cheapest duck(t) tape ... and tightly wrap the the halyards to the mast ... I like your suggestions, but ... they should only be carried out by a well-armed individual. How many arms would one have to be well armed? Six - like an insect, or would one extra one be enough? It's quality, not quantity, that we're looking for. -- Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://kerrydeare.tripod.com |
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"Armond Perretta" wrote: Matt Colie wrote: Two options: 1. Get his vehicle disabled while he is sailing so he is forced to spend the night on the boat. 2. Buy a big roll of the world's cheapest duck(t) tape (the kind that does not peel well and leaves lots of sticky residue when removed) and tightly wrap the the halyards to the mast as high as you can reach. I like your suggestions, but it seems to me that they should only be carried out by a well-armed individual. How many arms would one have to be well armed? Six - like an insect, or would one extra one be enough? grandma Rosalie |
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Matt Colie wrote:
Two options: 1. Get his vehicle disabled while he is sailing so he is forced to spend the night on the boat. 2. Buy a big roll of the world's cheapest duck(t) tape (the kind that does not peel well and leaves lots of sticky residue when removed) and tightly wrap the the halyards to the mast as high as you can reach. I like your suggestions, but it seems to me that they should only be carried out by a well-armed individual. -- Good luck and good sailing. s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat http://kerrydeare.tripod.com |
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