Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:06:48 -0500, HK wrote:

This little thread has been very revealing about Wayne.

And you too Harry. Who would have thought you were such a wake wussy
whiner?


I don't have problems with wakes caused by inconsiderate boaters, but I
have seen small boats swamped and overturned by arrogant a**holes in big
boats.

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:36:53 -0500, HK wrote:

I don't have problems with wakes caused by inconsiderate boaters, but I
have seen small boats swamped and overturned by arrogant a**holes in big
boats.

You'll be glad to know that I don't do that.

HK wrote:
Scotty wrote:
" JimH" ask wrote in message
...
"Wayne.B" wrote in
message
...
On open water small boats should have no
expectation of wake avoidance. If you go out there,
accept the risks
without whinning.
Huh? Is that how you operate?


Thank God his type is only a small percentage of real
boaters.




This little thread has been very revealing about Wayne.

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to no-wake
speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take long for the
wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of the bay and work
the way into the exposed tributaries.

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:11:53 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:

In any event is certainly looks like you need to learn the rules of the road
and common boater courtesy Wayne as you somehow think the guy with the
bigger boat owns the water.

Not true at all. I am saying that if you take a small boat onto open
water that you need to be able to deal with all of the hazzards out
there. Wakes are one of those hazzards and they travel a long way.

" JimH" ask wrote in message
...


"Open water" can be near shore. It can also be in the
middle of Lake Erie.
Congested water? Heck, it sound like you are one of the
bozos who runs
close to a pack of boats anchored for fishing with having
no concern over
your wake. Hey, it they are out there they accept the
risk........eh?

In any event is certainly looks like you need to learn the
rules of the road
and common boater courtesy Wayne as you somehow think the
guy with the
bigger boat owns the water.


I bet Wayne got picked on a lot when he was a kid.

On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to no-wake
speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take long for the
wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of the bay and work
the way into the exposed tributaries.

On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal.... Many
times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with only
moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage, possibly
a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that the word of the
litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper Chesapeake
in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the wake is
manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.

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Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to no-wake
speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take long for the
wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of the bay and work
the way into the exposed tributaries.

On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal.... Many
times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with only moderate
winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage, possibly a
death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that the word of the
litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper Chesapeake
in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the wake is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.



Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem for
me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat wakes. Even
when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it usually isn't a
significant problem, in my experience.

HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to no-wake
speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take long for the
wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of the bay and work
the way into the exposed tributaries.

On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with only
moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage, possibly
a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that the word of
the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the wake
is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.



Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem for
me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat wakes. Even
when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it usually isn't a
significant problem, in my experience.

The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake. While
it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have never seen a
trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as large. I am trying to
figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater would have that is leaving a
wake larger than a container ship.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to no-wake
speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take long for the
wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of the bay and
work the way into the exposed tributaries.

On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with only
moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that the
word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the wake
is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.



Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem
for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat
wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it usually
isn't a significant problem, in my experience.

The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake. While
it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have never seen a
trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as large. I am trying to
figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater would have that is leaving a
wake larger than a container ship.


Gee, how many large container ships do you encounter on Lake Lanier?

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Jere Lull wrote:
On 2007-11-12 17:50:18 -0500, BAR said:

When was the last a container ship or tanker slowed down to no-wake
speed coming up the channel of the bay. It doesn't take long for the
wake from the bib behemoths to get to either side of the bay and
work the way into the exposed tributaries.

On the Chesapeake, they do slow as they approach the C&D canal....
Many times, we'd sail at about their speed through the Elk with only
moderate winds.

A few years back, one blew through and caused serious damage,
possibly a death. A friend who rides those things mentioned that the
word of the litigation blasted through their community.

Truth be told, few run at more than 10-15 knots in the upper
Chesapeake in the first place. That's not no-wake speed, but the wake
is manageable.

Still, I've tracked their wakes for easily more than a mile.



Wakes from large ship traffic in the mid-Bay has not been a problem
for me. In fact, most of the ships I see are leaving fairly flat
wakes. Even when fishing on the edges of the ship channel, it usually
isn't a significant problem, in my experience.

The large container ships I have seen leave a nice rolling wake. While
it was not a problem (we took them at 35-45 degrees) I have never seen a
trawler (or even a floating RV) leaving a wake as large. I am trying to
figure out what kind of boat, a rec.boater would have that is leaving a
wake larger than a container ship.

Down in the lower bay, Point Lookout and south you see a container ship
coming and you know that the bow wave is going to be worst part, it
generates a big roller.