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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
" JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:51:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Wayne's comment is not arrogance. It's realism. Thank you. There are a lot of wake whiners out there. :-) Yep, especially when you were slammed by one in a 20 footer. Bigger boat does not relate to bigger dick Wayne, although it may compensate for it in your case. Children, children! My experience is I'd rather a power boat go by full blast. They make smaller wakes of shorter duration going full blast than when they slow down trying to be polite. Any sailor whose sailboat can't take a powerboat wake without stuff flying off the shelves needs to get his act together. Wilbur Hubbard Really? Interesting, because when I come off plane and slow my boat way down, there's no visible wake. There are bubbles. That's been true for all the boats I've ever owned. |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. Observant, considerate boaters whose craft throw up big wakes slow down when they find themselves among other boaters so their wakes flatten out and don't create a serious problem. Arrogant boaters don't slow down. I certainly agree with that. Eisboch |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: " JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:51:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Wayne's comment is not arrogance. It's realism. Thank you. There are a lot of wake whiners out there. :-) Yep, especially when you were slammed by one in a 20 footer. Bigger boat does not relate to bigger dick Wayne, although it may compensate for it in your case. Children, children! My experience is I'd rather a power boat go by full blast. They make smaller wakes of shorter duration going full blast than when they slow down trying to be polite. Any sailor whose sailboat can't take a powerboat wake without stuff flying off the shelves needs to get his act together. Wilbur Hubbard Really? Interesting, because when I come off plane and slow my boat way down, there's no visible wake. There are bubbles. That's been true for all the boats I've ever owned. Duh. Are you dumb or something? Let's say the sailboat's motoring along at six or seven knots. You need to be going about ten knots in your powerboat in order to get around them in a timely manner. At ten knots your powerboat is "plowing." That is it's making a big, slow, rolly wake. This slow wake is worse than a high speed wake which has smaller waves at a higher frequency. You're welcome. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:13:07 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: By way of example, I recently took my 11 foot inflatable RIB dinghy for an afternoon ride on Pamlico Sound behind the Outer Banks of North Carolina. This an area of open water frequented by large numbers of sportfishing boats greater than 40 ft. You could argue that an 11 ft RIB is not really suited for those conditions but there I was anyway. Since the channel is none too wide in many places, I got waked at least a dozen times. Uncomfortable? You bet. Dangerous? Potentially. Nevertheless I was able to cope by managing my speed and angle of approach. Did I get paranoid and accuse anyone of deliberately endangering me? Heck no, I'm the one who chose to be in their playground, in a potentially unsuitable boat. Nice story, but that has nothing to do with the situation I described. If you feel it was dangerous, you shouldn't have gone there in that. Precisely. These sportfish were moving fast however, and coming a lot closer than you'd really like. No blood, no foul. It gets interesting if I'm capsized however. They are resposible for their wake, we all know that. What about my quesionable judgement however (too small a boat), and failure to negotiate a dangerous wave in a seamanlike manner. Life is complicated sometimes. The difference is that where we were was not a place where one would expect someone to come so close going so fast. There was simply no reason for him to come as close as he did. He was just "in a hurry" without regard to anyone else on the water. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: " JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:51:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Wayne's comment is not arrogance. It's realism. Thank you. There are a lot of wake whiners out there. :-) Yep, especially when you were slammed by one in a 20 footer. Bigger boat does not relate to bigger dick Wayne, although it may compensate for it in your case. Children, children! My experience is I'd rather a power boat go by full blast. They make smaller wakes of shorter duration going full blast than when they slow down trying to be polite. Any sailor whose sailboat can't take a powerboat wake without stuff flying off the shelves needs to get his act together. Wilbur Hubbard Really? Interesting, because when I come off plane and slow my boat way down, there's no visible wake. There are bubbles. That's been true for all the boats I've ever owned. Duh. Are you dumb or something? Let's say the sailboat's motoring along at six or seven knots. You need to be going about ten knots in your powerboat in order to get around them in a timely manner. At ten knots your powerboat is "plowing." That is it's making a big, slow, rolly wake. This slow wake is worse than a high speed wake which has smaller waves at a higher frequency. You're welcome. Wilbur Hubbard Most of the sailboats I see out on Chesapeake Bay aren't motoring along at any knots, they're under sail. And if I am following one up a narrow river or inlet, I can get around it easily enough if I need to without churning up a wake. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:12:42 -0500, HK wrote: I have seen plenty of powerboaters who do not give a tinker's dam about their wakes. I've seen it in the ICW, and I see it out on Chesapeake Bay, and I have seen it on the Patuxent River and its tributaries. Why should anyone worry about their wake on Chesapeake Bay? It's open water. The freighters don't worry about their wake, the Coast Guard doesn't, The US Navy does not, tug boats don't. Wakes happen. On a windy day the naturally occurring waves are 3 to 4 feet out there. Not sure about the Chesapeake, but out here they certainly do care about their wake. In the bay, frieghters have stand-on status, the Coasties definitely slow down and know the rules when they pass another boat, and tug boats when not engaged in operations, are courteous to a fault. Wakes happen anyway, but not huge ones by arrogant Coasties or tugs. Your transom is too low. Get over it, get a bigger boat, or don't go out where the big boys play. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:12:42 -0500, HK wrote: I have seen plenty of powerboaters who do not give a tinker's dam about their wakes. I've seen it in the ICW, and I see it out on Chesapeake Bay, and I have seen it on the Patuxent River and its tributaries. Why should anyone worry about their wake on Chesapeake Bay? It's open water. The freighters don't worry about their wake, the Coast Guard doesn't, The US Navy does not, tug boats don't. Wakes happen. On a windy day the naturally occurring waves are 3 to 4 feet out there. Not sure about the Chesapeake, but out here they certainly do care about their wake. In the bay, frieghters have stand-on status, the Coasties definitely slow down and know the rules when they pass another boat, and tug boats when not engaged in operations, are courteous to a fault. Wakes happen anyway, but not huge ones by arrogant Coasties or tugs. Your transom is too low. Get over it, get a bigger boat, or don't go out where the big boys play. Wayne is very self-important on the bridge of his floating RV, and obviously thinks the waterways are his alone. If you're in a smaller boat, why, you shouldn't be in his way. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: " JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:51:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Wayne's comment is not arrogance. It's realism. Thank you. There are a lot of wake whiners out there. :-) Yep, especially when you were slammed by one in a 20 footer. Bigger boat does not relate to bigger dick Wayne, although it may compensate for it in your case. Children, children! My experience is I'd rather a power boat go by full blast. They make smaller wakes of shorter duration going full blast than when they slow down trying to be polite. Any sailor whose sailboat can't take a powerboat wake without stuff flying off the shelves needs to get his act together. Wilbur Hubbard Really? Interesting, because when I come off plane and slow my boat way down, there's no visible wake. There are bubbles. That's been true for all the boats I've ever owned. Duh. Are you dumb or something? Let's say the sailboat's motoring along at six or seven knots. You need to be going about ten knots in your powerboat in order to get around them in a timely manner. At ten knots your powerboat is "plowing." That is it's making a big, slow, rolly wake. This slow wake is worse than a high speed wake which has smaller waves at a higher frequency. You're welcome. Wilbur Hubbard Most of the sailboats I see out on Chesapeake Bay aren't motoring along at any knots, they're under sail. And if I am following one up a narrow river or inlet, I can get around it easily enough if I need to without churning up a wake. Sailboats under sail are steadied by their sails. You have plenty of space on the Bay to pass them full throttle if you want and you can leave plenty of distance between you and them. Slowing down in that case is stupid. The only time any real sailboat is bothered by a wake is when it's motoring along in a channel. Then the wake comes on the beam or quarter and rolls it like crazy. The faster you pass them (provided you pass at a safe distance) the less your wake will bother them. Take my word for it. Some might give you the #1 signal but those people are too dumb to realize a fast wake with smaller, high frequency waves tosses their boat around far less than those obnoxious slow rolly wakes. Those are the ones that are most disruptive. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:54:50 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: The difference is that where we were was not a place where one would expect someone to come so close going so fast. There was simply no reason for him to come as close as he did. He was just "in a hurry" without regard to anyone else on the water. I agree that passing too close at speed is poor seamanship. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:29:06 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote: Yep, especially when you were slammed by one in a 20 footer. Bigger boat does not relate to bigger dick Wayne, although it may compensate for it in your case. That seems uncalled for. What happened to "lead by example"? Like politics, this discussion, although initially worthwhile, has run it's course. Eisboch |
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Was delivering a 110' boat to Fla., running down the ditch..... was an open
stretch, nothing in sight ahead, just the occasional side channel, doin about 10K. All of a sudden, looked up one of those side channels and noticed a fisherman in a small flat bottom boat.... Oh Sh&t!!.....pulled em back but knew it was too late! As we went by, we could see that we'd sucked every last drop of water out of that side channel and this "Goodoleboy" was high and dry in the mud with his lower jaw hangin about down to his kneecaps. Bout this time the water rushed back in to fill the void and all we saw was assholes, elbows, and fishing poles flying in all kinds of directions...... Few minutes later we were overtaken by this "gentleman" from the South who had many choice words to say about our "Yankee" heritage.....worst part was that his anger became all the more incensed by the fact that we were all ready in a total fit of laughter and the more he yelled the worse our fit became!!! To this day, I'm not sure how we kept that boat in the channel till he finally gave up the chase! |
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otnmbrd wrote:
Was delivering a 110' boat to Fla., running down the ditch..... was an open stretch, nothing in sight ahead, just the occasional side channel, doin about 10K. All of a sudden, looked up one of those side channels and noticed a fisherman in a small flat bottom boat.... Oh Sh&t!!.....pulled em back but knew it was too late! As we went by, we could see that we'd sucked every last drop of water out of that side channel and this "Goodoleboy" was high and dry in the mud with his lower jaw hangin about down to his kneecaps. Bout this time the water rushed back in to fill the void and all we saw was assholes, elbows, and fishing poles flying in all kinds of directions...... Few minutes later we were overtaken by this "gentleman" from the South who had many choice words to say about our "Yankee" heritage.....worst part was that his anger became all the more incensed by the fact that we were all ready in a total fit of laughter and the more he yelled the worse our fit became!!! To this day, I'm not sure how we kept that boat in the channel till he finally gave up the chase! It would have been really funny for you if someone in his boat had drowned. |
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"otnmbrd" wrote in message .70... Was delivering a 110' boat to Fla., running down the ditch..... was an open stretch, nothing in sight ahead, just the occasional side channel, doin about 10K. All of a sudden, looked up one of those side channels and noticed a fisherman in a small flat bottom boat.... Oh Sh&t!!.....pulled em back but knew it was too late! As we went by, we could see that we'd sucked every last drop of water out of that side channel and this "Goodoleboy" was high and dry in the mud with his lower jaw hangin about down to his kneecaps. Bout this time the water rushed back in to fill the void and all we saw was assholes, elbows, and fishing poles flying in all kinds of directions...... Few minutes later we were overtaken by this "gentleman" from the South who had many choice words to say about our "Yankee" heritage.....worst part was that his anger became all the more incensed by the fact that we were all ready in a total fit of laughter and the more he yelled the worse our fit became!!! To this day, I'm not sure how we kept that boat in the channel till he finally gave up the chase! Good for you! Some of these recreational fishermen think they own the world. I've had them actually block a navigable channel with their lines going from one side to the other and they yelled at me to stop because they had lines in the water. I slowed down, grinned and just kept motoring. Snagged a couple of their lines and you shoulda heard the profanity. I've even had kids fishing from a dock try to tell me to keep clear because they had lines in the water. I had to tell them, "You better get them out quick because I'm coming in." Wilbur Hubbard |
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"HK" wrote in message ... otnmbrd wrote: Was delivering a 110' boat to Fla., running down the ditch..... was an open stretch, nothing in sight ahead, just the occasional side channel, doin about 10K. All of a sudden, looked up one of those side channels and noticed a fisherman in a small flat bottom boat.... Oh Sh&t!!.....pulled em back but knew it was too late! As we went by, we could see that we'd sucked every last drop of water out of that side channel and this "Goodoleboy" was high and dry in the mud with his lower jaw hangin about down to his kneecaps. Bout this time the water rushed back in to fill the void and all we saw was assholes, elbows, and fishing poles flying in all kinds of directions...... Few minutes later we were overtaken by this "gentleman" from the South who had many choice words to say about our "Yankee" heritage.....worst part was that his anger became all the more incensed by the fact that we were all ready in a total fit of laughter and the more he yelled the worse our fit became!!! To this day, I'm not sure how we kept that boat in the channel till he finally gave up the chase! It would have been really funny for you if someone in his boat had drowned. Sorta raises a question though. What is the purpose of the ICW? Is it an inland waterway for boat traffic or is it a private fishing channel for locals? Eisboch |
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:09:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:29:06 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote: Yep, especially when you were slammed by one in a 20 footer. Bigger boat does not relate to bigger dick Wayne, although it may compensate for it in your case. That seems uncalled for. What happened to "lead by example"? Like politics, this discussion, although initially worthwhile, has run it's course. Eisboch Ok. But I must say that these wake issues is why I will boat in a Mac 26X/M or a Carolina Skiff. 12-16 inches draft. Lead the big boys onto the shoals and oyster flats when they try to wake me. Might get a Sea-Tow referral sideline set up to defray gas costs. --Vic |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:09:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:29:06 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote: Yep, especially when you were slammed by one in a 20 footer. Bigger boat does not relate to bigger dick Wayne, although it may compensate for it in your case. That seems uncalled for. What happened to "lead by example"? Like politics, this discussion, although initially worthwhile, has run it's course. Eisboch Ok. But I must say that these wake issues is why I will boat in a Mac 26X/M or a Carolina Skiff. 12-16 inches draft. Lead the big boys onto the shoals and oyster flats when they try to wake me. Might get a Sea-Tow referral sideline set up to defray gas costs. --Vic Delicious. |
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"HK" wrote in message . .. Vic Smith wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:09:32 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:29:06 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote: Yep, especially when you were slammed by one in a 20 footer. Bigger boat does not relate to bigger dick Wayne, although it may compensate for it in your case. That seems uncalled for. What happened to "lead by example"? Like politics, this discussion, although initially worthwhile, has run it's course. Eisboch Ok. But I must say that these wake issues is why I will boat in a Mac 26X/M or a Carolina Skiff. 12-16 inches draft. Lead the big boys onto the shoals and oyster flats when they try to wake me. Might get a Sea-Tow referral sideline set up to defray gas costs. --Vic Delicious. Humorous, but not reality. No one in a big boat is going to follow you onto a shoal or oyster flat purposely trying to wake you. Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message ... otnmbrd wrote: Was delivering a 110' boat to Fla., running down the ditch..... was an open stretch, nothing in sight ahead, just the occasional side channel, doin about 10K. All of a sudden, looked up one of those side channels and noticed a fisherman in a small flat bottom boat.... Oh Sh&t!!.....pulled em back but knew it was too late! As we went by, we could see that we'd sucked every last drop of water out of that side channel and this "Goodoleboy" was high and dry in the mud with his lower jaw hangin about down to his kneecaps. Bout this time the water rushed back in to fill the void and all we saw was assholes, elbows, and fishing poles flying in all kinds of directions...... Few minutes later we were overtaken by this "gentleman" from the South who had many choice words to say about our "Yankee" heritage.....worst part was that his anger became all the more incensed by the fact that we were all ready in a total fit of laughter and the more he yelled the worse our fit became!!! To this day, I'm not sure how we kept that boat in the channel till he finally gave up the chase! It would have been really funny for you if someone in his boat had drowned. Sorta raises a question though. What is the purpose of the ICW? Is it an inland waterway for boat traffic or is it a private fishing channel for locals? Eisboch Traffic cannot be expected to look up every side-channel and slow down in time if there's boats in them. They'd have to slow down for every side channel because by the time they could see small boats in them going at speed it would be too late to slow down. The burden is on the small boat fishing to keep clear of dangerous wakes coming from the ICW. Go fish someplace else. There is a rule that says fishing boats shall not impede traffic in a channel. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:22:00 -0500, " JimH" ask wrote:
"That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away from where the big boys play." Sorry if you were offended. |
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:27:18 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
Ok. But I must say that these wake issues is why I will boat in a Mac 26X/M or a Carolina Skiff. 12-16 inches draft. Lead the big boys onto the shoals and oyster flats when they try to wake me. Might get a Sea-Tow referral sideline set up to defray gas costs. --Vic Delicious. Humorous, but not reality. No one in a big boat is going to follow you onto a shoal or oyster flat purposely trying to wake you. Not that I would do it, but it's not unknown for inattentive, sheep-like drivers of boats - and autos - to follow another into a hazard. I'm not proud of it, but I did once sucker another driver into a speeding ticket. I had noticed that no matter how fast I went on a lightly traveled section of highway, some lady just insisted on passing me. I kept increasing my speed, and backed off just before the crest of a hill where I knew a state trooper often waited on the other side. He was there, waiting. Hey, I didn't force her to be doing 90mph over that hill. --Vic |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... Traffic cannot be expected to look up every side-channel and slow down in time if there's boats in them. They'd have to slow down for every side channel because by the time they could see small boats in them going at speed it would be too late to slow down. The burden is on the small boat fishing to keep clear of dangerous wakes coming from the ICW. Go fish someplace else. There is a rule that says fishing boats shall not impede traffic in a channel. Wilbur Hubbard At some point in the Carolinas (I think South, but can't remember for sure) we came upon a large fleet of small jon boats, anchored and fishing, smack in the middle of the channel and along it's shoreline. The guy ahead of us in a trawler tried to get around them to the left and promptly ran aground. After several minutes of deliberations, I started weaving my way between the boats at idle speed on my 52' vessel. Despite this, we still got the one finger salute from many of the boats along with references to certain parts of one's anatomy. Shuda waked them. Eisboch |
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HK wrote in
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:05:46 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
Without going into detail, I had one guy on my boat who tends to get a little hot tempered quickly. Fortunately, my brother kept him under control because otherwise things would have become real ugly fast. ICW Rage. --Vic |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "HK" wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: " JimH" ask wrote in message ... "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:51:08 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Wayne's comment is not arrogance. It's realism. Thank you. There are a lot of wake whiners out there. :-) Yep, especially when you were slammed by one in a 20 footer. Bigger boat does not relate to bigger dick Wayne, although it may compensate for it in your case. Children, children! My experience is I'd rather a power boat go by full blast. They make smaller wakes of shorter duration going full blast than when they slow down trying to be polite. Any sailor whose sailboat can't take a powerboat wake without stuff flying off the shelves needs to get his act together. Wilbur Hubbard Really? Interesting, because when I come off plane and slow my boat way down, there's no visible wake. There are bubbles. That's been true for all the boats I've ever owned. Duh. Are you dumb or something? Let's say the sailboat's motoring along at six or seven knots. You need to be going about ten knots in your powerboat in order to get around them in a timely manner. At ten knots your powerboat is "plowing." That is it's making a big, slow, rolly wake. This slow wake is worse than a high speed wake which has smaller waves at a higher frequency. You're welcome. Wilbur Hubbard Yeah...as if that mustard yellow Coronado 27 could keep up a six or seven knot cruise without shaking apart. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... These sportfish were moving fast however, and coming a lot closer than you'd really like. No blood, no foul. It gets interesting if I'm capsized however. They are resposible for their wake, we all know that. What about my quesionable judgement however (too small a boat), and failure to negotiate a dangerous wave in a seamanlike manner. Life is complicated sometimes. What Wayne is saying, Jon, is that everybody should be required , by law, to own a boat larger than 40' so he can act irresponsible and not cause any serious damage. SBV |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:54:08 -0500, "Scotty" wrote: Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given right to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with it, or get off ''his'' waters. Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2. That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away from where the big boys play. see what I mean? |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "HK" wrote in message ... Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:54:08 -0500, "Scotty" wrote: Acording to someone on this group, it's his God given right to wake a smaller boat and you should just deal with it, or get off ''his'' waters. Not sure if he falls under #1 or # 2. ============================ No whine before its time. One man's ripple is another man's tsunami. "Waking a smaller boat" implies an intentional malicious action, and I don't think much, if any, of that goes on. I'd be the first to call someone to task if I suspected it. That said, wakes happen. Get over it, buy a bigger boat, or stay away from where the big boys play. Geez...what an arrogant ass you are. After a couple of days I realized that when others don't respect them and give you a one-finger salute instead ..... wake 'em! :-) Ahhh, another one. |
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"otnmbrd" wrote in message .70... Was delivering a 110' boat to Fla., running down the ditch..... was an open stretch, nothing in sight ahead, just the occasional side channel, doin about 10K. All of a sudden, looked up one of those side channels and noticed a fisherman in a small flat bottom boat.... Oh Sh&t!!.....pulled em back but knew it was too late! As we went by, we could see that we'd sucked every last drop of water out of that side channel and this "Goodoleboy" was high and dry in the mud with his lower jaw hangin about down to his kneecaps. Bout this time the water rushed back in to fill the void and all we saw was assholes, elbows, and fishing poles flying in all kinds of directions...... Few minutes later we were overtaken by this "gentleman" from the South who had many choice words to say about our "Yankee" heritage.....worst part was that his anger became all the more incensed by the fact that we were all ready in a total fit of laughter and the more he yelled the worse our fit became!!! To this day, I'm not sure how we kept that boat in the channel till he finally gave up the chase! Well, at least you tried. SBV |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message news:L- In my limited experience traveling the ICW I saw no "intentional" waking of a slower or smaller vessel by the larger boats, with one exception. A large sportsfish blew by us and others at full speed, ignoring all speed zones. I heard on the radio that he was coming and to watch out. He was caught further down the ICW about an hour later. So, with your admitted ''limited experience'' , you admit to witnessing a stinkpotter waking other boats. Just think how many you'd see if you had some experience. To be truthful, I saw more sailboat operators running on their engine, ignoring the "rules of the road". Wake them !!! I see more crazy powerboat operation in a single weekend at the entrance to Scituate harbor during the summer than anything I witnessed on the ICW and the biggest offenders are in smaller, outboard or I/O powered boats. You shulda waked them all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote I've often been out on my little 13' Whaler navigating over a big (to it) wake from a passing large boat a mile away. ''a mile away''? Now you're just being stupid. SBV |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... Wayne's comment is pure arrogance. Eisboch Agreed. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... There are plenty of places on the Bay where very small boats congregate. You probably don't notice them. There are guys out there in rowboats, kayaks, canoes, not in the middle of the bay, but not far offshore, near inlets, creeks, et cetera. Most boaters slow down anytime they get near these guys, so they don't cause them problems. The arrogant ass boaters, of course, don't. I *always* slow down for rowboats, kayaks and canoes, even when they are where they don't belong. Everyone else is a judgement call. I don't believe we have ever endangered anyone with our wake but there are lots of "wake whiners" out there who expect flat water where ever they go. Some of them are in large sailboats which is kind of comical. arrogant, pompous, asshole named Wayne. |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote
The only time any real sailboat is bothered by a wake is when it's motoring along in a channel. I'm mostly bothered when I'm parked. Hard to "stay away from where the big boys play" when they play in my back yard. http://blizzard.zmm.com/whips/movie.wmv (Strictly speaking, if it that's as bad as it ever got, I'd have no complaints. I don't have any video of my nemesis in the big blue SeaRay plowing by.) |
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:21:27 -0500, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote: I'm mostly bothered when I'm parked. Hard to "stay away from where the big boys play" when they play in my back yard. http://blizzard.zmm.com/whips/movie.wmv (Strictly speaking, if it that's as bad as it ever got, I'd have no complaints. I don't have any video of my nemesis in the big blue SeaRay plowing by.) Ouch. Nice location but you're in a difficult situation there with wakes. There are some alternatives to the mooring whips which I've seen used elsewhere and would be more effective: - A boat lift, also keeps the bottom clean and makes the boat easier to work on. - An anchor to the channel side with a bow and stern bridle, allowing you to pull the boat further away from the dock. - A mooring with or without a "haul out" system. A mooring is essentially a big anchor with chain and a floating ball on the surface. Unless you rig a "haul out" system you will need to take a dinghy out to the boat. A "haul out" is essentially a continuous pulley system like an old fashioned clothes line that allows you to retrieve the boat from shore. |
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"Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Eisboch" wrote I've often been out on my little 13' Whaler navigating over a big (to it) wake from a passing large boat a mile away. ''a mile away''? Now you're just being stupid. SBV Why is that stupid? It's absolutely true. Eisboch |
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"Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Eisboch" wrote in message ... Wayne's comment is pure arrogance. Eisboch Agreed. Please be careful with your attributes. I didn't say that. Eisboch |
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