"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
Only 4 wires?? They must have cut some off for a specific GPS-only,
Data In ONLY connection. Ok, let's look at the Yeoman connections on:
http://www.yeomanuk.co.uk/tech/yds062.doc
Open it with Wordpad so you can see the graphics.


I already had that link and think that is the connector pin out for a later
version..

The data cable I have is labeled Yeoman, is virgin (never modified) four pin
plug that mates with a data connector on the back.. There is also a power
connector and a power switch. No fuse (manual says the fuse is internal). I
don't think anything has ever been modified since the connector and switch
layout are just as shown in the manual..

I think I may have to open the case to see where each of the remaining data
connector pins go to.. Might be easier than trial and error..

I might follow up on your links to BandGusa and see if my mother board and
firmware needs upgrading..

Thanks

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

I think the early Yeomans were only plotters of GPS data. They had no
NMEA output data.

This can easily be corrected by buying the $75 replacement computer
board from B&G, like we did to replace our fried one. Call B&G
support and give them your model/serial number. I bet the new
computer board will plug right in. Make sure you tell the man you
need the board sent with the full new EPROM which is the master
program and a new data cable with these wires on it.

Changing the board is simply pulling the plastic box apart on the
bottom left side of the plotter, unplugging the cables from 2
connectors MARKING HOW THE PUCK PLUGS IN, PLEASE. Unscrew the
computer board from the main big board's pins pulling straight out
while wiggling it around to get it loose, then carefully plugging the
new board onto the pins sticking out of the main plotting board. Plug
the puck and the new interface cable in and you have a new yeoman with
the latest firmware, a $600 gadget.



On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 23:12:11 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
Only 4 wires?? They must have cut some off for a specific GPS-only,
Data In ONLY connection. Ok, let's look at the Yeoman connections on:
http://www.yeomanuk.co.uk/tech/yds062.doc
Open it with Wordpad so you can see the graphics.


I already had that link and think that is the connector pin out for a later
version..

The data cable I have is labeled Yeoman, is virgin (never modified) four pin
plug that mates with a data connector on the back.. There is also a power
connector and a power switch. No fuse (manual says the fuse is internal). I
don't think anything has ever been modified since the connector and switch
layout are just as shown in the manual..

I think I may have to open the case to see where each of the remaining data
connector pins go to.. Might be easier than trial and error..

I might follow up on your links to BandGusa and see if my mother board and
firmware needs upgrading..

Thanks

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Larry W4CSC

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
I think the early Yeomans were only plotters of GPS data. They had no
NMEA output data.


Then why would the manual state that the way points are uploaded to the
Loran/GPS??

I found a authorized dealer in FL and noticed that the data/power cables
were $55 so maybe Yeoman offered a cheaper input cable option in the early
days.

I will call BandG on monday and see what they have to say.. I spent the
better part of Friday talking to the guys at Maptech trying to figure out
who was now handling the Yeoman.. Nice people but in the end "Not Our
Y'ob"!!

The mother board upgrade may be the solution if it is compatable with the
rest of the system..

Hey! I was reading the current tech manual on the BandG site and I found a
procedure for installing the unit upside down under the chart table (this is
in addition the rightside up method). The upside down method has some
advantages but requires the software to be made aware of the reversed
position.. My problem is, my chart table is already 7/8 total thickness.

Thanks for your response Larry.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 11:09:21 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
I think the early Yeomans were only plotters of GPS data. They had no
NMEA output data.


Then why would the manual state that the way points are uploaded to the
Loran/GPS??

Not sure. Never saw one with just 4 wires.

I found a authorized dealer in FL and noticed that the data/power cables
were $55 so maybe Yeoman offered a cheaper input cable option in the early
days.

"Boat Owner Pricing".......same as Lexus.

I will call BandG on monday and see what they have to say.. I spent the
better part of Friday talking to the guys at Maptech trying to figure out
who was now handling the Yeoman.. Nice people but in the end "Not Our
Y'ob"!!

The mother board upgrade may be the solution if it is compatable with the
rest of the system..

Hey! I was reading the current tech manual on the BandG site and I found a
procedure for installing the unit upside down under the chart table (this is
in addition the rightside up method). The upside down method has some
advantages but requires the software to be made aware of the reversed
position.. My problem is, my chart table is already 7/8 total thickness.

Our chart table top is about 1/2" thick mahogany and the Yeoman
scanner board is 1/4" below the bottom of that because it is stuck to
the chart table top with 5 pound per inch double sided industrial foam
tape (two full width strips near the 1/3 to 2/3 distance). On top of
that sits the thickness of the entire Maptech chart book folded back
with the chart we want on top. (There's no place to put the rest of
it any other way. On top of the chart book's thickness is a 1/4"
plexiglass cover to grease pencil on. The Yeoman signal warning
blinks all 4 arrows at once about 2" ABOVE the surface of the
plexiglass. Works great this way! 7/8" isn't a problem. Just make
SURE there is nothing METAL under the Yeoman in the drawer to distort
the scanning signals. A paper clip will make it way off. We store
nothing but charts under it and nothing on top of it while in use.

The Yeoman cares NOT whether the chart is right side up, upside down
or sideways. As you teach it the three points along the L of
lat/long, it scales to those points, no matter what the chart scale or
position is. The orientation on our chart table is with the computer
daughterboard pointed down (away from the chart), and the
daughterboard is on the left side of the chart table with the cables
coming out the back of its protective little box.

I've even fooled around with a 7-11 roadmap that had some cursory
lat/long markings on it. I made a user-programmed 3-point memory file
for the road map. Worked great if you only needed airline miles, not
road miles around curves.

Thanks for your response Larry.

No problem! I spent all afternoon into the evening pulling in more
cables. Lionheart now has a remotely controlled 1KW inverter with
permanent outlets behind the microwave and over on the chart table to
run the computer and printer from. The little remote control panel
has a power mini switch that simply parallels the inverter's power
switch and a neon indicator lamp that lights when the inverter is
putting out 120VAC to the outlets I installed.

We beez Yachting! Hear that drill motor?...(c;

One of the neighbors was motoring out of his slip and came around the
corner. I had my drill in my hand and yelled out, "Where you goin'?
Get back here and GET TO WORK!".....hee hee....

He laughed and gave me the finger as he motored out of the
marina...(c;



Larry W4CSC

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 11:09:21 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
I think the early Yeomans were only plotters of GPS data. They had no
NMEA output data.


Then why would the manual state that the way points are uploaded to the
Loran/GPS??

Not sure. Never saw one with just 4 wires.

I found a authorized dealer in FL and noticed that the data/power cables
were $55 so maybe Yeoman offered a cheaper input cable option in the early
days.

"Boat Owner Pricing".......same as Lexus.

I will call BandG on monday and see what they have to say.. I spent the
better part of Friday talking to the guys at Maptech trying to figure out
who was now handling the Yeoman.. Nice people but in the end "Not Our
Y'ob"!!

The mother board upgrade may be the solution if it is compatable with the
rest of the system..

Hey! I was reading the current tech manual on the BandG site and I found a
procedure for installing the unit upside down under the chart table (this is
in addition the rightside up method). The upside down method has some
advantages but requires the software to be made aware of the reversed
position.. My problem is, my chart table is already 7/8 total thickness.

Our chart table top is about 1/2" thick mahogany and the Yeoman
scanner board is 1/4" below the bottom of that because it is stuck to
the chart table top with 5 pound per inch double sided industrial foam
tape (two full width strips near the 1/3 to 2/3 distance). On top of
that sits the thickness of the entire Maptech chart book folded back
with the chart we want on top. (There's no place to put the rest of
it any other way. On top of the chart book's thickness is a 1/4"
plexiglass cover to grease pencil on. The Yeoman signal warning
blinks all 4 arrows at once about 2" ABOVE the surface of the
plexiglass. Works great this way! 7/8" isn't a problem. Just make
SURE there is nothing METAL under the Yeoman in the drawer to distort
the scanning signals. A paper clip will make it way off. We store
nothing but charts under it and nothing on top of it while in use.

The Yeoman cares NOT whether the chart is right side up, upside down
or sideways. As you teach it the three points along the L of
lat/long, it scales to those points, no matter what the chart scale or
position is. The orientation on our chart table is with the computer
daughterboard pointed down (away from the chart), and the
daughterboard is on the left side of the chart table with the cables
coming out the back of its protective little box.

I've even fooled around with a 7-11 roadmap that had some cursory
lat/long markings on it. I made a user-programmed 3-point memory file
for the road map. Worked great if you only needed airline miles, not
road miles around curves.

Thanks for your response Larry.

No problem! I spent all afternoon into the evening pulling in more
cables. Lionheart now has a remotely controlled 1KW inverter with
permanent outlets behind the microwave and over on the chart table to
run the computer and printer from. The little remote control panel
has a power mini switch that simply parallels the inverter's power
switch and a neon indicator lamp that lights when the inverter is
putting out 120VAC to the outlets I installed.

We beez Yachting! Hear that drill motor?...(c;

One of the neighbors was motoring out of his slip and came around the
corner. I had my drill in my hand and yelled out, "Where you goin'?
Get back here and GET TO WORK!".....hee hee....

He laughed and gave me the finger as he motored out of the
marina...(c;



Larry W4CSC

"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
I think the early Yeomans were only plotters of GPS data. They had no
NMEA output data.


Then why would the manual state that the way points are uploaded to the
Loran/GPS??

I found a authorized dealer in FL and noticed that the data/power cables
were $55 so maybe Yeoman offered a cheaper input cable option in the early
days.

I will call BandG on monday and see what they have to say.. I spent the
better part of Friday talking to the guys at Maptech trying to figure out
who was now handling the Yeoman.. Nice people but in the end "Not Our
Y'ob"!!

The mother board upgrade may be the solution if it is compatable with the
rest of the system..

Hey! I was reading the current tech manual on the BandG site and I found a
procedure for installing the unit upside down under the chart table (this is
in addition the rightside up method). The upside down method has some
advantages but requires the software to be made aware of the reversed
position.. My problem is, my chart table is already 7/8 total thickness.

Thanks for your response Larry.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions

I think the early Yeomans were only plotters of GPS data. They had no
NMEA output data.

This can easily be corrected by buying the $75 replacement computer
board from B&G, like we did to replace our fried one. Call B&G
support and give them your model/serial number. I bet the new
computer board will plug right in. Make sure you tell the man you
need the board sent with the full new EPROM which is the master
program and a new data cable with these wires on it.

Changing the board is simply pulling the plastic box apart on the
bottom left side of the plotter, unplugging the cables from 2
connectors MARKING HOW THE PUCK PLUGS IN, PLEASE. Unscrew the
computer board from the main big board's pins pulling straight out
while wiggling it around to get it loose, then carefully plugging the
new board onto the pins sticking out of the main plotting board. Plug
the puck and the new interface cable in and you have a new yeoman with
the latest firmware, a $600 gadget.



On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 23:12:11 -0800, "Steve" wrote:


"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
Only 4 wires?? They must have cut some off for a specific GPS-only,
Data In ONLY connection. Ok, let's look at the Yeoman connections on:
http://www.yeomanuk.co.uk/tech/yds062.doc
Open it with Wordpad so you can see the graphics.


I already had that link and think that is the connector pin out for a later
version..

The data cable I have is labeled Yeoman, is virgin (never modified) four pin
plug that mates with a data connector on the back.. There is also a power
connector and a power switch. No fuse (manual says the fuse is internal). I
don't think anything has ever been modified since the connector and switch
layout are just as shown in the manual..

I think I may have to open the case to see where each of the remaining data
connector pins go to.. Might be easier than trial and error..

I might follow up on your links to BandGusa and see if my mother board and
firmware needs upgrading..

Thanks

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




Larry W4CSC