Harlan Lachman wrote:


Glenn, I have a different take than Paul. As an asthmatic with sleep
apnea, really hot humid nights are very bad for me. As you probably
know, hot, humid nights have more stuff in the air. Being in an enclosed
place and being uncomfortable...

I found it possible to run the smallest AC off my Honda 1000is
generator.

Harlan,

The generator you post is gasoline powered, not diesel. The issues of a
gasoline generator are much different. They are lighter, quieter, and
easier to manage, but you then need to transport petrol which some folks
don't wish to do including the OP.

Also even though these are very quiet by generator standards, they are,
IMO, disruptive in a completely silent anchorage, but YMMV.

-paul

In article ,
Paul Cassel wrote:

Harlan Lachman wrote:


Glenn, I have a different take than Paul. As an asthmatic with sleep
apnea, really hot humid nights are very bad for me. As you probably
know, hot, humid nights have more stuff in the air. Being in an enclosed
place and being uncomfortable...

I found it possible to run the smallest AC off my Honda 1000is
generator.

Harlan,

The generator you post is gasoline powered, not diesel. The issues of a
gasoline generator are much different. They are lighter, quieter, and
easier to manage, but you then need to transport petrol which some folks
don't wish to do including the OP.

Also even though these are very quiet by generator standards, they are,
IMO, disruptive in a completely silent anchorage, but YMMV.

-paul

Agree with all the negatives. Every one.

OTOH, they are portable (can be used for other purposes), take little
fuel, are quieter, and generate the power the original poster enquired
about.

harlan

--
To respond, obviously drop the "nospan"?

The Honda generators can be converted to run on propane. Supposedly they
lose about 10% of power as a result. But at least you do not need to
carry gasoline (although I bet we all do for our dinghies).

"126298" wrote in message
...
The Honda generators can be converted to run on propane. Supposedly they
lose about 10% of power as a result. But at least you do not need to
carry gasoline (although I bet we all do for our dinghies).


Okay...so this I'm interested in...how?

Glenn.
s/v Seawing.

www.propane-generators.com/eu2000i_ kits.htm

Correction to my comment about losing 10% of power, apparently this is
no longer the case with the latest conversion mod:
www.propane-generators.com/dedicated_kits.htm "This type of conversion
will produce FULL power because the carburetor is now delivering fuel at
the exact location that was engineered for the delivery of gasoline to
the engine air stream."

On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 05:55:57 +0100 (CET), wrote:

www.propane-generators.com/eu2000i_ kits.htm

Correction to my comment about losing 10% of power, apparently this is
no longer the case with the latest conversion mod:
www.propane-generators.com/dedicated_kits.htm "This type of conversion
will produce FULL power because the carburetor is now delivering fuel at
the exact location that was engineered for the delivery of gasoline to
the engine air stream.

It happens that propane, as well as both alcohols, methanol and
ethanol, have an octane rating of 100. There is no reason not to
expect better efficiency and more power, compared to gasoline.The
carburetor designer's job is easier. You can realistically expect to
get the same near ideal mixture to all the cylinders. The perfect
fuel, actually.Historically, propane has been cheaper and there were
engines around that could use the octane..

Casady...

On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:15:26 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:


It happens that propane, as well as both alcohols, methanol and
ethanol, have an octane rating of 100. There is no reason not to
expect better efficiency and more power, compared to gasoline.The
carburetor designer's job is easier. You can realistically expect to
get the same near ideal mixture to all the cylinders. The perfect
fuel, actually.Historically, propane has been cheaper and there were
engines around that could use the octane..

Casady...


Hmmm...the unspoken implication is that high octane implies high
energy content. It doesn't however. It's a common place that 90
octane can have higher energy content than 100 octane.
The high test stuff has better anti knock properties however, so
higher compression can provide better thermal efficiency using that
lower energy content fuel.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 02:15:26 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 05:55:57 +0100 (CET), wrote:

www.propane-generators.com/eu2000i_ kits.htm

Correction to my comment about losing 10% of power, apparently this is
no longer the case with the latest conversion mod:
www.propane-generators.com/dedicated_kits.htm "This type of conversion
will produce FULL power because the carburetor is now delivering fuel at
the exact location that was engineered for the delivery of gasoline to
the engine air stream.

It happens that propane, as well as both alcohols, methanol and
ethanol, have an octane rating of 100. There is no reason not to
expect better efficiency and more power, compared to gasoline.The
carburetor designer's job is easier. You can realistically expect to
get the same near ideal mixture to all the cylinders. The perfect
fuel, actually.Historically, propane has been cheaper and there were
engines around that could use the octane..

Casady...


The "Tuk-Tuks", motorized tri-shaws, and most of the taxis in Bangkok
have been using LPG for years. In talking with the taxi drivers they
say that costs are about half what gasoline costs but they feel that
power is slightly less.

I did notice that the conversion shown in the URL is simply a modified
carburetor while the taxis here have a somewhat more sophisticated
system that includes a "boiler", a vaporizer heated by engine coolant,
to ensure complete vaporization of the LPG, but given normal
temperatures in Bangkok I have no idea why that should be required.

Bruce-in-Bangkok
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address is a spam trap)

Paul Cassel wrote in
:

Harlan Lachman wrote:


Glenn, I have a different take than Paul. As an asthmatic with sleep
apnea, really hot humid nights are very bad for me. As you probably
know, hot, humid nights have more stuff in the air. Being in an
enclosed place and being uncomfortable...

I found it possible to run the smallest AC off my Honda 1000is
generator.

Harlan,

The generator you post is gasoline powered, not diesel. The issues of
a gasoline generator are much different. They are lighter, quieter,
and easier to manage, but you then need to transport petrol which some
folks don't wish to do including the OP.

Also even though these are very quiet by generator standards, they
are, IMO, disruptive in a completely silent anchorage, but YMMV.

-paul

I personally HATE it when I'm in an anchorage near someone who has a Honda
generator running. I find them far from quiet, especially at night if
someone is using one to keep an AC running. What ticks me off even more is
people running them at dock becuase they're too cheap to pay for a power
hookup and the marina doesn't have rules to prevent it.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

"Geoff Schultz" wrote in message
.. .
| Paul Cassel wrote in
| :
|
| Harlan Lachman wrote:
|
|
| Glenn, I have a different take than Paul. As an asthmatic with
sleep
| apnea, really hot humid nights are very bad for me. As you
probably
| know, hot, humid nights have more stuff in the air. Being in
an
| enclosed place and being uncomfortable...
|
| I found it possible to run the smallest AC off my Honda 1000is
| generator.
|
| Harlan,
|
| The generator you post is gasoline powered, not diesel. The
issues of
| a gasoline generator are much different. They are lighter,
quieter,
| and easier to manage, but you then need to transport petrol
which some
| folks don't wish to do including the OP.
|
| Also even though these are very quiet by generator standards,
they
| are, IMO, disruptive in a completely silent anchorage, but
YMMV.
|
| -paul
|
| I personally HATE it when I'm in an anchorage near someone who
has a Honda
| generator running. I find them far from quiet, especially at
night if
| someone is using one to keep an AC running. What ticks me off
even more is
| people running them at dock becuase they're too cheap to pay for
a power
| hookup and the marina doesn't have rules to prevent it.
|
| -- Geoff
| www.GeoffSchultz.org

Thank you for being a voice of sanity in this sea of selfish
assholes who think their fat bodies and comfort takes precedence
over maybe 20-30 other cruisers with anchored boats trying to enjoy
the peace and quite of a good anchorage. Good until the fat-assed,
selfish, generator-running crowd shows up, that is.Then the
anchorage begins to sound and smell more like an airport. One good
thing about those Honda generators, thought. They are light. When
the inconsiderate clods fire one up and then jump into their dinghy
to go ashore because even they can't stand the racket the light
weight makes it very easy to grab the generator and toss it
overboard. You gotta do it right, though. Don't lift it. Slowly
drag it so those black rubber feet leave skid marks. Then when the
assholes return and find their generator gone they see the skid
marks and think maybe a huge wake slid it over the side. Either way
end of problem as far as listening to all that noise.

Greg (deep-sixed over a dozen portable generators to date!)