Paul Cassel wrote in
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Harlan Lachman wrote:


Glenn, I have a different take than Paul. As an asthmatic with sleep
apnea, really hot humid nights are very bad for me. As you probably
know, hot, humid nights have more stuff in the air. Being in an
enclosed place and being uncomfortable...

I found it possible to run the smallest AC off my Honda 1000is
generator.

Harlan,

The generator you post is gasoline powered, not diesel. The issues of
a gasoline generator are much different. They are lighter, quieter,
and easier to manage, but you then need to transport petrol which some
folks don't wish to do including the OP.

Also even though these are very quiet by generator standards, they
are, IMO, disruptive in a completely silent anchorage, but YMMV.

-paul

I personally HATE it when I'm in an anchorage near someone who has a Honda
generator running. I find them far from quiet, especially at night if
someone is using one to keep an AC running. What ticks me off even more is
people running them at dock becuase they're too cheap to pay for a power
hookup and the marina doesn't have rules to prevent it.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

"Geoff Schultz" wrote in message
.. .
| Paul Cassel wrote in
| :
|
| Harlan Lachman wrote:
|
|
| Glenn, I have a different take than Paul. As an asthmatic with
sleep
| apnea, really hot humid nights are very bad for me. As you
probably
| know, hot, humid nights have more stuff in the air. Being in
an
| enclosed place and being uncomfortable...
|
| I found it possible to run the smallest AC off my Honda 1000is
| generator.
|
| Harlan,
|
| The generator you post is gasoline powered, not diesel. The
issues of
| a gasoline generator are much different. They are lighter,
quieter,
| and easier to manage, but you then need to transport petrol
which some
| folks don't wish to do including the OP.
|
| Also even though these are very quiet by generator standards,
they
| are, IMO, disruptive in a completely silent anchorage, but
YMMV.
|
| -paul
|
| I personally HATE it when I'm in an anchorage near someone who
has a Honda
| generator running. I find them far from quiet, especially at
night if
| someone is using one to keep an AC running. What ticks me off
even more is
| people running them at dock becuase they're too cheap to pay for
a power
| hookup and the marina doesn't have rules to prevent it.
|
| -- Geoff
| www.GeoffSchultz.org

Thank you for being a voice of sanity in this sea of selfish
assholes who think their fat bodies and comfort takes precedence
over maybe 20-30 other cruisers with anchored boats trying to enjoy
the peace and quite of a good anchorage. Good until the fat-assed,
selfish, generator-running crowd shows up, that is.Then the
anchorage begins to sound and smell more like an airport. One good
thing about those Honda generators, thought. They are light. When
the inconsiderate clods fire one up and then jump into their dinghy
to go ashore because even they can't stand the racket the light
weight makes it very easy to grab the generator and toss it
overboard. You gotta do it right, though. Don't lift it. Slowly
drag it so those black rubber feet leave skid marks. Then when the
assholes return and find their generator gone they see the skid
marks and think maybe a huge wake slid it over the side. Either way
end of problem as far as listening to all that noise.

Greg (deep-sixed over a dozen portable generators to date!)

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:56:30 -0600, Paul Cassel
wrote:

Also even though these are very quiet by generator standards, they are,
IMO, disruptive in a completely silent anchorage, but YMMV.

Just as is done with smoking, you could have segregation. Generators
here quiet over there. The generator crowd will invite those less
endowed, electricity wise, over for very cold drinks with lots of ice,
and adequate or better air conditioning. Perhaps a voluntary curfew on
unnecessary noise. Pigs might fly.

Casady

On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:46:21 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

Just as is done with smoking, you could have segregation. Generators
here quiet over there. The generator crowd will invite those less
endowed, electricity wise, over for very cold drinks with lots of ice,
and adequate or better air conditioning. Perhaps a voluntary curfew on
unnecessary noise.

We have a nice quiet engine room diesel running at 1800 RPM, with a
sound shield and water lift muffler. It's almost inaudible from off
the boat except for the chuffing of the exhaust water. We try to have
it off by 11:00PM and no one has ever complained. If they do I'll
invite them over for frozen pizza and Hagen Daz ice cream.

Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:56:30 -0600, Paul Cassel
wrote:

Just as is done with smoking, you could have segregation. Generators
here quiet over there. The generator crowd will invite those less
endowed, electricity wise, over for very cold drinks with lots of ice,
and adequate or better air conditioning. Perhaps a voluntary curfew on
unnecessary noise. Pigs might fly.

Then where do you place the guys who play annoying music?

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
| On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:56:30 -0600, Paul Cassel
| wrote:
|
| Also even though these are very quiet by generator standards,
they are,
| IMO, disruptive in a completely silent anchorage, but YMMV.
|
| Just as is done with smoking, you could have segregation.
Generators
| here quiet over there. The generator crowd will invite those less
| endowed, electricity wise, over for very cold drinks with lots of
ice,
| and adequate or better air conditioning. Perhaps a voluntary
curfew on
| unnecessary noise. Pigs might fly.
|
| Casady

Pie in the sky. It'll never happen. Portable generator users don't
wanna listen to a bunch of portables grinding away all night long
any more than the rest of us. When they turn off their noise they
expect it to be quiet. That's how these people are. It's me, myself
and I. That's their mentality.

Built-in generators with water lift mufflers are an acceptable
alternative as far as noise goes. If there's any wind at all they
can't even be heard because their exhaust sounds pretty much like
waves lapping on a hull. But, most of them are diesel. And we all
know diesel stinks. I sure don't wanna be breathing diesel fumes
all night long. Even if I can't hear the exhaust, I can smell the
fumes. So what diesel boats need to do is anchor downwind of
EVERYBODY! Unfortunately you rarely see it. They know that
downwind from everybody exposes them to assholes who anchor upwind
of everybody and run generators.

The only civilized alternative is anchored boats should all contain
considerate people who care about their fellow boater and who all
agree that once the sun sets any and all generators are to be
turned off. (Ever hear of storage batteries? Try fans instead of
air conditioning!) This includes those obnoxious wind generators,
too. The noise they make is particularly bothersome. How has it
come about that a few selfish people are ruining cruising for all
concerned?

Greg

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:22:17 GMT, "Glenn \(s/v Seawing\)"
wrote:

I was planning to add a K.I.S.S. wind generator & a couple larger solar
panels but am considering taking that money and putting toward a used
generator.

Two questions:

1) Any advise in choosing a generator?

2) Where to look for good used generator (Florida based boat)?

If you boat in Florida in the summer time you definitely need a diesel
gen set for air conditioning. The biggest considerations are dealer
service and parts availability, and that depends on what area you are
in. Miami/Lauderdale you can get parts and service for just about
anything, not necessarily true in the Keys or on the west coast.

For a deal ask around with local installers for a good running "take
out"; take a look on EBAY/Craigs List; or check for "boat show
specials". I highly recommend getting a good inverter system and
battery bank to save generator time when your power needs are more
modest.

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:39:17 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:22:17 GMT, "Glenn \(s/v Seawing\)"
wrote:

I was planning to add a K.I.S.S. wind generator & a couple larger solar
panels but am considering taking that money and putting toward a used
generator.

Two questions:

1) Any advise in choosing a generator?

2) Where to look for good used generator (Florida based boat)?

If I were planning on putting a generator in a boat I'd "ping" Larry
as he recently described a new model Honda that apparently is a DC
generator and an inverter combined. Larry says that he uses one and it
is quite and efficient.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
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"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:39:17 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:22:17 GMT, "Glenn \(s/v Seawing\)"
wrote:

I was planning to add a K.I.S.S. wind generator & a couple larger solar
panels but am considering taking that money and putting toward a used
generator.

Two questions:

1) Any advise in choosing a generator?

2) Where to look for good used generator (Florida based boat)?

If I were planning on putting a generator in a boat I'd "ping" Larry
as he recently described a new model Honda that apparently is a DC
generator and an inverter combined. Larry says that he uses one and it
is quite and efficient.

I have used the Honda EU2000i which is a DC generator with an inverter for
2000W for close to 5 years now. Very quiet under light load and with the eco
throttle it speeds up a bit when the hot water heater comes on. I have used
it on the boat as well as in the RV when I didn't want to crank up the big
coach generator. I just went to the Mayberry site (mayberrys.com) and saw
that Yamaha has a line of the inverter type gennys matching the Honda line.
No interest in the company, but just a satisfied user.

Leanne

Leanne wrote:
"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:39:17 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:22:17 GMT, "Glenn \(s/v Seawing\)"
wrote:

I was planning to add a K.I.S.S. wind generator & a couple larger solar
panels but am considering taking that money and putting toward a used
generator.

Two questions:

1) Any advise in choosing a generator?

2) Where to look for good used generator (Florida based boat)?

If I were planning on putting a generator in a boat I'd "ping" Larry
as he recently described a new model Honda that apparently is a DC
generator and an inverter combined. Larry says that he uses one and it
is quite and efficient.

I have used the Honda EU2000i which is a DC generator with an inverter
for 2000W for close to 5 years now. Very quiet under light load and with
the eco throttle it speeds up a bit when the hot water heater comes on.
I have used it on the boat as well as in the RV when I didn't want to
crank up the big coach generator. I just went to the Mayberry site
(mayberrys.com) and saw that Yamaha has a line of the inverter type
gennys matching the Honda line. No interest in the company, but just a
satisfied user.

Leanne

I also have the Honda EU2000i and use it as a backup to the engine
alternator. Although very quiet at idle, its a bit noisy at full
throttle (i.e. when charging) and I consider it anti-social to use in a
tight anchorage where a neighbor might be 50 feet from my cockpit. It
is, however, quieter than the engine for me down below, so I use it when
neighbors are more than a 100 yards away.