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WANTED: Colvin Gazelle
I'm looking for a Colvin Gazelle at a reasonable price. http://www.ucolick.org/~de/boat/Wanted.html Modest reward for info leading to boat purchase. happy new year to all. de -- .................................................. ............................ e Clarke, Software Engineer UCO/Lick Observatory, UCSC: :Mail: | Your planet's immune system is trying to get rid : :Web: www.ucolick.org | of you. --Kurt Vonnegut : :1024D/B9C9E76E | F892 5F17 8E0A F095 05CD EE8B D169 EDAA B9C9 E76E: |
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WANTED: Colvin Gazelle
De Clarke wrote: I'm looking for a Colvin Gazelle at a reasonable price. Aluminum or steel? Junk rig or schooner? Commissioned, 'completed,' or project? How did you pick the Gazelle and wouldn't something else do as well? Anyway, try all these links, especially the bottom one. Fresh Breezes- Doug King http://www.boat-world.com/boatads/1077936380.html http://www.matthewspoint.com/listing...Gazelle_l.html http://www.esys.org/bauboard/messages/2090.html http://www.hobo.itgo.com/ http://tulis.dsinet.org/misc/bart.gif |
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WANTED: Colvin Gazelle
De Clarke wrote: I'm looking for a Colvin Gazelle at a reasonable price. Aluminum or steel? Junk rig or schooner? Commissioned, 'completed,' or project? How did you pick the Gazelle and wouldn't something else do as well? Anyway, try all these links, especially the bottom one. Fresh Breezes- Doug King http://www.boat-world.com/boatads/1077936380.html http://www.matthewspoint.com/listing...Gazelle_l.html http://www.esys.org/bauboard/messages/2090.html http://www.hobo.itgo.com/ http://tulis.dsinet.org/misc/bart.gif |
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WANTED: Colvin Gazelle
DSK wrote:
De Clarke wrote: I'm looking for a Colvin Gazelle at a reasonable price. Aluminum or steel? Junk rig or schooner? Commissioned, 'completed,' or project? If Mr King had taken a moment to read the URL included in my posting, his questions would be answered. I included a URL for further details, in order to keep the "advertising" posting as brief as possible. How did you pick the Gazelle and wouldn't something else do as well? My business, I think. In any case the web page referenced by the URL discusses possible less-preferred alternatives. Anyway, try all these links, especially the bottom one. ... http://tulis.dsinet.org/misc/bart.gif I confess I am puzzled by this response -- why be gratuitously insulting? I can only assume that Mr King did not read my sig block. As a s'ware engineer, would I ignore the best search engine on the net? hardly :-) JFEI and to defend myself against Mr King's imputation of incompetence and stupidity :-) yes, I have used Google. I have also written my own web crawler to scrape about 15,000 yachtworld listings (price-limited) every couple of weeks for anything remotely like the boat I'm looking for. I've placed ads in 3 different sailing mags. I surely wouldn't be posting to Usenet -- and exposing myself to its notorious, nay, legendary culture of rudeness -- if other means had been successful. 3 years of boat-hunting and several K miles of plane travel to survey hopeful prospects have not yielded results so far... other than furthering my education the importance of regular maintenance on steel hulls :-) I am aware of about 8 Colvin Gazelles f/s in N America at this time, and so far all of them are (a) on the wrong coast, (b) the wrong rig, or (c) out of my price range. I have narrowly missed buying 2 Gazelles in the last 2 years for the usual reasons -- seller changed mind at last minute, or prior offer was accepted. I am now trying to use the sailors' WorldWideGossipNet to find the boats that are not listed w/brokers or fancy online databases, but are lurking in marinas and mooring grounds with handwritten For Sale Signs on the rigging, or stored in someone's uncle's barn. Of the URLs Mr King offers, 3 are boats I already know about (listed on yachtworld) due to my own semi-automated web crawler. (Again, if he had bothered to look at the URL he might have noticed the text reading "I am already watching yachtworld.com...") There is no indication that the fourth boat is for sale at this time. The fifth and final URL is the uncalled-for bit of rudeness to which I refer above. AFAIK Mr King and I have never met, never done business, have no history or connection whatsoever -- so I can imagine no possible grudge or personal animosity that would explain the disrespectful tone of this "helpful" response. I am mystified. Is this some kind of trolling game -- hazing newbies to the newsgroup? Or (I am not familiar with this group and its history) is Mr King habituallu rude to everyone, w/o any bias or preference? In either case, Usenet certainly seems to be living up to its reputation :-) I would like to thank those folks who have -- with genuine courtesy and helpfulness -- called and emailed me already with info about some rather interesting boats. Others w/info, tips, leads etc., please visit the URL :-) http://www.ucolick.org/~de/boat/Wanted.html and send email or leave a message by voice; after such a warm and friendly welcome, I am not highly motivated to visit the newsgroup again... de -- .................................................. ............................ e Clarke, Software Engineer UCO/Lick Observatory, UCSC: :Mail: | Your planet's immune system is trying to get rid : :Web: www.ucolick.org | of you. --Kurt Vonnegut : :1024D/B9C9E76E | F892 5F17 8E0A F095 05CD EE8B D169 EDAA B9C9 E76E: |
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WANTED: Colvin Gazelle
DSK wrote:
De Clarke wrote: I'm looking for a Colvin Gazelle at a reasonable price. Aluminum or steel? Junk rig or schooner? Commissioned, 'completed,' or project? If Mr King had taken a moment to read the URL included in my posting, his questions would be answered. I included a URL for further details, in order to keep the "advertising" posting as brief as possible. How did you pick the Gazelle and wouldn't something else do as well? My business, I think. In any case the web page referenced by the URL discusses possible less-preferred alternatives. Anyway, try all these links, especially the bottom one. ... http://tulis.dsinet.org/misc/bart.gif I confess I am puzzled by this response -- why be gratuitously insulting? I can only assume that Mr King did not read my sig block. As a s'ware engineer, would I ignore the best search engine on the net? hardly :-) JFEI and to defend myself against Mr King's imputation of incompetence and stupidity :-) yes, I have used Google. I have also written my own web crawler to scrape about 15,000 yachtworld listings (price-limited) every couple of weeks for anything remotely like the boat I'm looking for. I've placed ads in 3 different sailing mags. I surely wouldn't be posting to Usenet -- and exposing myself to its notorious, nay, legendary culture of rudeness -- if other means had been successful. 3 years of boat-hunting and several K miles of plane travel to survey hopeful prospects have not yielded results so far... other than furthering my education the importance of regular maintenance on steel hulls :-) I am aware of about 8 Colvin Gazelles f/s in N America at this time, and so far all of them are (a) on the wrong coast, (b) the wrong rig, or (c) out of my price range. I have narrowly missed buying 2 Gazelles in the last 2 years for the usual reasons -- seller changed mind at last minute, or prior offer was accepted. I am now trying to use the sailors' WorldWideGossipNet to find the boats that are not listed w/brokers or fancy online databases, but are lurking in marinas and mooring grounds with handwritten For Sale Signs on the rigging, or stored in someone's uncle's barn. Of the URLs Mr King offers, 3 are boats I already know about (listed on yachtworld) due to my own semi-automated web crawler. (Again, if he had bothered to look at the URL he might have noticed the text reading "I am already watching yachtworld.com...") There is no indication that the fourth boat is for sale at this time. The fifth and final URL is the uncalled-for bit of rudeness to which I refer above. AFAIK Mr King and I have never met, never done business, have no history or connection whatsoever -- so I can imagine no possible grudge or personal animosity that would explain the disrespectful tone of this "helpful" response. I am mystified. Is this some kind of trolling game -- hazing newbies to the newsgroup? Or (I am not familiar with this group and its history) is Mr King habituallu rude to everyone, w/o any bias or preference? In either case, Usenet certainly seems to be living up to its reputation :-) I would like to thank those folks who have -- with genuine courtesy and helpfulness -- called and emailed me already with info about some rather interesting boats. Others w/info, tips, leads etc., please visit the URL :-) http://www.ucolick.org/~de/boat/Wanted.html and send email or leave a message by voice; after such a warm and friendly welcome, I am not highly motivated to visit the newsgroup again... de -- .................................................. ............................ e Clarke, Software Engineer UCO/Lick Observatory, UCSC: :Mail: | Your planet's immune system is trying to get rid : :Web: www.ucolick.org | of you. --Kurt Vonnegut : :1024D/B9C9E76E | F892 5F17 8E0A F095 05CD EE8B D169 EDAA B9C9 E76E: |
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WANTED: Colvin Gazelle
De Clarke wrote:
... (lots snipped) Is this some kind of trolling game -- hazing newbies to the newsgroup? Or (I am not familiar with this group and its history) is Mr King habituallu rude to everyone, w/o any bias or preference? AFAIK neither, although I do reserve my best manners for less pompous. My post was intended to -perhaps- get some discussion going, and make the point that you should ask for what you want. Perhaps you could have said, "I've been combing the internet for a Colvin Gazelle, does anybody know of one for sale (or that might be for sale) that isn't on a brokers listing?" I doubt that many people are going to jump through hoops to read the fine print on your web site, etc etc. Good luck. DSK |
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WANTED: Colvin Gazelle
De Clarke wrote:
... (lots snipped) Is this some kind of trolling game -- hazing newbies to the newsgroup? Or (I am not familiar with this group and its history) is Mr King habituallu rude to everyone, w/o any bias or preference? AFAIK neither, although I do reserve my best manners for less pompous. My post was intended to -perhaps- get some discussion going, and make the point that you should ask for what you want. Perhaps you could have said, "I've been combing the internet for a Colvin Gazelle, does anybody know of one for sale (or that might be for sale) that isn't on a brokers listing?" I doubt that many people are going to jump through hoops to read the fine print on your web site, etc etc. Good luck. DSK |
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WANTED: Colvin Gazelle
not to worry. last time I heard, dougie was sailing a Hunter 19 and hoping it
was a Deerfoot 56. dougie tends to hope the world thinks him a genius. From: De Clarke Date: 1/7/2004 4:48 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: 3ffc8cd3@darkstar DSK wrote: De Clarke wrote: I'm looking for a Colvin Gazelle at a reasonable price. Aluminum or steel? Junk rig or schooner? Commissioned, 'completed,' or project? If Mr King had taken a moment to read the URL included in my posting, his questions would be answered. I included a URL for further details, in order to keep the "advertising" posting as brief as possible. How did you pick the Gazelle and wouldn't something else do as well? My business, I think. In any case the web page referenced by the URL discusses possible less-preferred alternatives. Anyway, try all these links, especially the bottom one. ... http://tulis.dsinet.org/misc/bart.gif I confess I am puzzled by this response -- why be gratuitously insulting? I can only assume that Mr King did not read my sig block. As a s'ware engineer, would I ignore the best search engine on the net? hardly :-) JFEI and to defend myself against Mr King's imputation of incompetence and stupidity :-) yes, I have used Google. I have also written my own web crawler to scrape about 15,000 yachtworld listings (price-limited) every couple of weeks for anything remotely like the boat I'm looking for. I've placed ads in 3 different sailing mags. I surely wouldn't be posting to Usenet -- and exposing myself to its notorious, nay, legendary culture of rudeness -- if other means had been successful. 3 years of boat-hunting and several K miles of plane travel to survey hopeful prospects have not yielded results so far... other than furthering my education the importance of regular maintenance on steel hulls :-) I am aware of about 8 Colvin Gazelles f/s in N America at this time, and so far all of them are (a) on the wrong coast, (b) the wrong rig, or (c) out of my price range. I have narrowly missed buying 2 Gazelles in the last 2 years for the usual reasons -- seller changed mind at last minute, or prior offer was accepted. I am now trying to use the sailors' WorldWideGossipNet to find the boats that are not listed w/brokers or fancy online databases, but are lurking in marinas and mooring grounds with handwritten For Sale Signs on the rigging, or stored in someone's uncle's barn. Of the URLs Mr King offers, 3 are boats I already know about (listed on yachtworld) due to my own semi-automated web crawler. (Again, if he had bothered to look at the URL he might have noticed the text reading "I am already watching yachtworld.com...") There is no indication that the fourth boat is for sale at this time. The fifth and final URL is the uncalled-for bit of rudeness to which I refer above. AFAIK Mr King and I have never met, never done business, have no history or connection whatsoever -- so I can imagine no possible grudge or personal animosity that would explain the disrespectful tone of this "helpful" response. I am mystified. Is this some kind of trolling game -- hazing newbies to the newsgroup? Or (I am not familiar with this group and its history) is Mr King habituallu rude to everyone, w/o any bias or preference? In either case, Usenet certainly seems to be living up to its reputation :-) I would like to thank those folks who have -- with genuine courtesy and helpfulness -- called and emailed me already with info about some rather interesting boats. Others w/info, tips, leads etc., please visit the URL :-) http://www.ucolick.org/~de/boat/Wanted.html and send email or leave a message by voice; after such a warm and friendly welcome, I am not highly motivated to visit the newsgroup again... de -- ................................................. ............................ e Clarke, Software Engineer UCO/Lick Observatory, UCSC: :Mail: | Your planet's immune system is trying to get rid : :Web: www.ucolick.org | of you. --Kurt Vonnegut : :1024D/B9C9E76E | F892 5F17 8E0A F095 05CD EE8B D169 EDAA B9C9 E76E: |
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