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Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
Chuck Bollinger wrote:
Peter wrote: A bit of a fun java based docking simulator http://spot.pcc.edu/~mtrigobo/docksim/index.html Peter www.oceanodyssey.net "Do not measure your life by the number of breaths you take, Rather by the number of times life just takes your breath away" Excellent. Thank you. Here's another: http://members.home.net/mltsoftware/docksim.html Nice website, too. It'll take some time to peruse - in any hat. After learning it didn't work I tried it and it didn't work for me. My browser acted funny after that and lost a driver, but that may not be related to the members.com site. I'm going to reboot a little later and try again. Sorry - I should have tested it before posting. |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
Installing a bow thruster can help immensely if you find you can't "get it."
Ghoti "Richard Malcolm" wrote in message om... Jere Lull wrote in message ... In article , "John Smith" wrote: I have a small single engine inboard/outboard cruiser which is normally kept on a mooring. I have just spent a few days at a berth and would like some references for articles on berthing under a range of conditions, to improve my skills and knowledge of the subject. Any suggestions on the best source of articles etc? I tried to send this earlier but it did not take so here goes my 2 cents 1-Pratice 2-Understand wind and current and use that 3-Understand which way you can steer in reverse becuase of paddlewheel effect and use that. 4-Gain confidence and don't get rattled by onlookers 5-Go Slow and if (when) you hit something, there will be no damage 6-Pratice some more there is a video on single engine I/O doccking that I bought at West Marine, Maybe it could help good luck --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 1/8/2004 |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
Installing a bow thruster can help immensely if you find you can't "get it."
Ghoti "Richard Malcolm" wrote in message om... Jere Lull wrote in message ... In article , "John Smith" wrote: I have a small single engine inboard/outboard cruiser which is normally kept on a mooring. I have just spent a few days at a berth and would like some references for articles on berthing under a range of conditions, to improve my skills and knowledge of the subject. Any suggestions on the best source of articles etc? I tried to send this earlier but it did not take so here goes my 2 cents 1-Pratice 2-Understand wind and current and use that 3-Understand which way you can steer in reverse becuase of paddlewheel effect and use that. 4-Gain confidence and don't get rattled by onlookers 5-Go Slow and if (when) you hit something, there will be no damage 6-Pratice some more there is a video on single engine I/O doccking that I bought at West Marine, Maybe it could help good luck --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 1/8/2004 |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
Worked perfectly for me.
Ghoti "Chuck Bollinger" wrote in message news:sHDLb.8797$xy6.19863@attbi_s02... Chuck Bollinger wrote: Peter wrote: A bit of a fun java based docking simulator http://spot.pcc.edu/~mtrigobo/docksim/index.html Peter www.oceanodyssey.net "Do not measure your life by the number of breaths you take, Rather by the number of times life just takes your breath away" Excellent. Thank you. Here's another: http://members.home.net/mltsoftware/docksim.html Nice website, too. It'll take some time to peruse - in any hat. After learning it didn't work I tried it and it didn't work for me. My browser acted funny after that and lost a driver, but that may not be related to the members.com site. I'm going to reboot a little later and try again. Sorry - I should have tested it before posting. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 1/8/2004 |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
Worked perfectly for me.
Ghoti "Chuck Bollinger" wrote in message news:sHDLb.8797$xy6.19863@attbi_s02... Chuck Bollinger wrote: Peter wrote: A bit of a fun java based docking simulator http://spot.pcc.edu/~mtrigobo/docksim/index.html Peter www.oceanodyssey.net "Do not measure your life by the number of breaths you take, Rather by the number of times life just takes your breath away" Excellent. Thank you. Here's another: http://members.home.net/mltsoftware/docksim.html Nice website, too. It'll take some time to peruse - in any hat. After learning it didn't work I tried it and it didn't work for me. My browser acted funny after that and lost a driver, but that may not be related to the members.com site. I'm going to reboot a little later and try again. Sorry - I should have tested it before posting. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.560 / Virus Database: 352 - Release Date: 1/8/2004 |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:09:41 -0400, "Ken Heaton"
wrote: "Chuck Bollinger" wrote in message news:aGgLb.771413$HS4.6070694@attbi_s01... Here's another: http://members.home.net/mltsoftware/docksim.html Chuck, this link doesn't seem to work, I just get a bunch of popups that fight with my firewall. This link work for anyone else? Try http://mltsoftware.home.comcast.net/...m/docksim.html It is the same java applet referred to in a previous message. Jack __________________________________________________ Jack Dale Swiftsure Sailing Academy Director/ISPA and CYA Instructor http://www.swiftsuresailing.com Phone: 1 (877) 470-SAIL (toll free) __________________________________________________ |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 23:09:41 -0400, "Ken Heaton"
wrote: "Chuck Bollinger" wrote in message news:aGgLb.771413$HS4.6070694@attbi_s01... Here's another: http://members.home.net/mltsoftware/docksim.html Chuck, this link doesn't seem to work, I just get a bunch of popups that fight with my firewall. This link work for anyone else? Try http://mltsoftware.home.comcast.net/...m/docksim.html It is the same java applet referred to in a previous message. Jack __________________________________________________ Jack Dale Swiftsure Sailing Academy Director/ISPA and CYA Instructor http://www.swiftsuresailing.com Phone: 1 (877) 470-SAIL (toll free) __________________________________________________ |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
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"Chuck Bollinger" wrote in message news:aGgLb.771413$HS4.6070694@attbi_s01... Peter wrote: A bit of a fun java based docking simulator http://spot.pcc.edu/~mtrigobo/docksim/index.html Peter www.oceanodyssey.net "Do not measure your life by the number of breaths you take, Rather by the number of times life just takes your breath away" Excellent. Thank you. Here's another: http://members.home.net/mltsoftware/docksim.html Nice website, too. It'll take some time to peruse - in any hat. |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
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"Chuck Bollinger" wrote in message news:aGgLb.771413$HS4.6070694@attbi_s01... Peter wrote: A bit of a fun java based docking simulator http://spot.pcc.edu/~mtrigobo/docksim/index.html Peter www.oceanodyssey.net "Do not measure your life by the number of breaths you take, Rather by the number of times life just takes your breath away" Excellent. Thank you. Here's another: http://members.home.net/mltsoftware/docksim.html Nice website, too. It'll take some time to peruse - in any hat. |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
"Ghoti" wrote in message ... Installing a bow thruster can help immensely if you find you can't "get it." Ghoti I have a small single engine inboard/outboard cruiser which is As may be seen the OP is in regards to a 'small I/O cruiser.. It would be inappropriate and impactical to put a bow thruster on such a shallow draft boat.. IMHO, as bow thruster is to compensate for poor boat handling skills. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
"Ghoti" wrote in message ... Installing a bow thruster can help immensely if you find you can't "get it." Ghoti I have a small single engine inboard/outboard cruiser which is As may be seen the OP is in regards to a 'small I/O cruiser.. It would be inappropriate and impactical to put a bow thruster on such a shallow draft boat.. IMHO, as bow thruster is to compensate for poor boat handling skills. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
If everyone had the attitude that you do, we wouldn't have GPS (for those
who can't navigate well enough) sounders (for those who can't throw a tallow-filled leadline well enough) or hydraulic steering (for those too weak to turn the wheel). I disagree totally that a bow thruster can't be used on a small I/O. There are currently units available to fit virtually any sized boat. They are relatively easy to retrofit, too. "Steve" wrote in message ... "Ghoti" wrote in message ... Installing a bow thruster can help immensely if you find you can't "get it." Ghoti I have a small single engine inboard/outboard cruiser which is As may be seen the OP is in regards to a 'small I/O cruiser.. It would be inappropriate and impactical to put a bow thruster on such a shallow draft boat.. IMHO, as bow thruster is to compensate for poor boat handling skills. Steve s/v Good Intentions --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004 |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
If everyone had the attitude that you do, we wouldn't have GPS (for those
who can't navigate well enough) sounders (for those who can't throw a tallow-filled leadline well enough) or hydraulic steering (for those too weak to turn the wheel). I disagree totally that a bow thruster can't be used on a small I/O. There are currently units available to fit virtually any sized boat. They are relatively easy to retrofit, too. "Steve" wrote in message ... "Ghoti" wrote in message ... Installing a bow thruster can help immensely if you find you can't "get it." Ghoti I have a small single engine inboard/outboard cruiser which is As may be seen the OP is in regards to a 'small I/O cruiser.. It would be inappropriate and impactical to put a bow thruster on such a shallow draft boat.. IMHO, as bow thruster is to compensate for poor boat handling skills. Steve s/v Good Intentions --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004 |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
"Ghoti" wrote in message ... If everyone had the attitude that you do, we wouldn't have GPS (for those Lighten up.. It was a friendly 'rib' I have used since I was in the navy.. I just forgot to put the 'winking smiley face'.. Back ground: In the '70s the navy started putting bow thrusters on many single screw combatant ships (frigates,etc). I was from the old navy where such things were unheard of.. However by that time I was nearing retirement and working in shipyards and especially dry docks. The ships liaison was usually an ensign or jg and they would ask, on a daily basis, about the progress on their bow thruster.. Hense the remark about 'ship handling skills'. Again, sorry if I offended. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
"Ghoti" wrote in message ... If everyone had the attitude that you do, we wouldn't have GPS (for those Lighten up.. It was a friendly 'rib' I have used since I was in the navy.. I just forgot to put the 'winking smiley face'.. Back ground: In the '70s the navy started putting bow thrusters on many single screw combatant ships (frigates,etc). I was from the old navy where such things were unheard of.. However by that time I was nearing retirement and working in shipyards and especially dry docks. The ships liaison was usually an ensign or jg and they would ask, on a daily basis, about the progress on their bow thruster.. Hense the remark about 'ship handling skills'. Again, sorry if I offended. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
Steve wrote: "Ghoti" wrote in message ... If everyone had the attitude that you do, we wouldn't have GPS (for those Lighten up.. It was a friendly 'rib' I have used since I was in the navy.. I just forgot to put the 'winking smiley face'.. Back ground: In the '70s the navy started putting bow thrusters on many single screw combatant ships (frigates,etc). I was from the old navy where such things were unheard of.. However by that time I was nearing retirement and working in shipyards and especially dry docks. The ships liaison was usually an ensign or jg and they would ask, on a daily basis, about the progress on their bow thruster.. Hense the remark about 'ship handling skills'. Again, sorry if I offended. Steve s/v Good Intentions G Frigates don't have bow thrusters, they have APU's, which makes for some good/bad/screwy ideas, as to how to use them. |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
Steve wrote: "Ghoti" wrote in message ... If everyone had the attitude that you do, we wouldn't have GPS (for those Lighten up.. It was a friendly 'rib' I have used since I was in the navy.. I just forgot to put the 'winking smiley face'.. Back ground: In the '70s the navy started putting bow thrusters on many single screw combatant ships (frigates,etc). I was from the old navy where such things were unheard of.. However by that time I was nearing retirement and working in shipyards and especially dry docks. The ships liaison was usually an ensign or jg and they would ask, on a daily basis, about the progress on their bow thruster.. Hense the remark about 'ship handling skills'. Again, sorry if I offended. Steve s/v Good Intentions G Frigates don't have bow thrusters, they have APU's, which makes for some good/bad/screwy ideas, as to how to use them. |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
"otnmbrd" wrote in message news:ipmNb.9658 G Frigates don't have bow thrusters, they have APU's, which makes for some good/bad/screwy ideas, as to how to use them. Your right with the APU (auxiliary propulsion unit). I racked my brain trying to remember that acronym.. Been 25 years.. The were lowered down for use and retracted up into the bottom with a fairing plate so they wouldn't effect the ships speed.. An idea worth consider for pleasure boats.. Those bow thruster holes must cost a knot or so in speed. I have a friend who dives down and installs plug in his when he is headed off shore for a long passage. Makes a big difference, I'm told. I still think for the OP he should consentrate on improving his boat handling skills. Especially since a I/O should be easy to manouver, relative to a prop/rudder boat. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
"otnmbrd" wrote in message news:ipmNb.9658 G Frigates don't have bow thrusters, they have APU's, which makes for some good/bad/screwy ideas, as to how to use them. Your right with the APU (auxiliary propulsion unit). I racked my brain trying to remember that acronym.. Been 25 years.. The were lowered down for use and retracted up into the bottom with a fairing plate so they wouldn't effect the ships speed.. An idea worth consider for pleasure boats.. Those bow thruster holes must cost a knot or so in speed. I have a friend who dives down and installs plug in his when he is headed off shore for a long passage. Makes a big difference, I'm told. I still think for the OP he should consentrate on improving his boat handling skills. Especially since a I/O should be easy to manouver, relative to a prop/rudder boat. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
The reason fighter pilots are assigned carrier duty is because of
their inability to land in a cross wind. :) Regards Gary On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 23:14:43 -0800, "Steve" wrote: "otnmbrd" wrote in message news:ipmNb.9658 G Frigates don't have bow thrusters, they have APU's, which makes for some good/bad/screwy ideas, as to how to use them. Your right with the APU (auxiliary propulsion unit). I racked my brain trying to remember that acronym.. Been 25 years.. The were lowered down for use and retracted up into the bottom with a fairing plate so they wouldn't effect the ships speed.. An idea worth consider for pleasure boats.. Those bow thruster holes must cost a knot or so in speed. I have a friend who dives down and installs plug in his when he is headed off shore for a long passage. Makes a big difference, I'm told. I still think for the OP he should consentrate on improving his boat handling skills. Especially since a I/O should be easy to manouver, relative to a prop/rudder boat. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
The reason fighter pilots are assigned carrier duty is because of
their inability to land in a cross wind. :) Regards Gary On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 23:14:43 -0800, "Steve" wrote: "otnmbrd" wrote in message news:ipmNb.9658 G Frigates don't have bow thrusters, they have APU's, which makes for some good/bad/screwy ideas, as to how to use them. Your right with the APU (auxiliary propulsion unit). I racked my brain trying to remember that acronym.. Been 25 years.. The were lowered down for use and retracted up into the bottom with a fairing plate so they wouldn't effect the ships speed.. An idea worth consider for pleasure boats.. Those bow thruster holes must cost a knot or so in speed. I have a friend who dives down and installs plug in his when he is headed off shore for a long passage. Makes a big difference, I'm told. I still think for the OP he should consentrate on improving his boat handling skills. Especially since a I/O should be easy to manouver, relative to a prop/rudder boat. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
The main thing I don't like about the APU's in question, is that they
are not variable speed .... they're either on or off. Although I agree that we should all concentrate on improving our skills, I can also see conditions, where no matter how good we get, a thruster can be a good tool/advantage .... becomes a trade off of what we want and/or need, I guess. otn Steve wrote: "otnmbrd" wrote in message news:ipmNb.9658 G Frigates don't have bow thrusters, they have APU's, which makes for some good/bad/screwy ideas, as to how to use them. Your right with the APU (auxiliary propulsion unit). I racked my brain trying to remember that acronym.. Been 25 years.. The were lowered down for use and retracted up into the bottom with a fairing plate so they wouldn't effect the ships speed.. An idea worth consider for pleasure boats.. Those bow thruster holes must cost a knot or so in speed. I have a friend who dives down and installs plug in his when he is headed off shore for a long passage. Makes a big difference, I'm told. I still think for the OP he should consentrate on improving his boat handling skills. Especially since a I/O should be easy to manouver, relative to a prop/rudder boat. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Berthing a single engine cruiser in reverse
The main thing I don't like about the APU's in question, is that they
are not variable speed .... they're either on or off. Although I agree that we should all concentrate on improving our skills, I can also see conditions, where no matter how good we get, a thruster can be a good tool/advantage .... becomes a trade off of what we want and/or need, I guess. otn Steve wrote: "otnmbrd" wrote in message news:ipmNb.9658 G Frigates don't have bow thrusters, they have APU's, which makes for some good/bad/screwy ideas, as to how to use them. Your right with the APU (auxiliary propulsion unit). I racked my brain trying to remember that acronym.. Been 25 years.. The were lowered down for use and retracted up into the bottom with a fairing plate so they wouldn't effect the ships speed.. An idea worth consider for pleasure boats.. Those bow thruster holes must cost a knot or so in speed. I have a friend who dives down and installs plug in his when he is headed off shore for a long passage. Makes a big difference, I'm told. I still think for the OP he should consentrate on improving his boat handling skills. Especially since a I/O should be easy to manouver, relative to a prop/rudder boat. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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