On Sep 27, 7:17 pm, Red wrote:


Red

PS as far as S&L - when I'm working on boats it surprises me how many
times something from one of their stories pops into my head and reminds
me to check something or other out. Ever notice how many boats have
mis-aligned alternator pullies, for instance? And the discussions that
follow his stories are excellent learning opportunities that may not
have taken place had he not written about it in the first place.

Hi, Red, and list,

At the risk of throwing gasoline (diesel?) on the fire, thank you for
that. It's exactly why I post our misadventures. As seen in prior
discussions on the point, I ignore the inevitable flames from those
whose **** don't stink (not just in this forum, so don't feel
special), and engage those looking for additional info or our learning
experiences from the adventure (as they all are, if they don't kill
you).

And, Wilbur, clearly you haven't been paying attention, or perhaps
hadn't shown up in this persona (I don't recall) at the time of our
wreck, but within a couple of days, I did, in fact post (search "I
learned about sailing from that") a rather extensive examination of
how we got to be in that predicament.

I don't "get off" on posting ways we might have done something
different, or the consequences therefrom. I get off on illustrating
how (and why) things can have different outcomes than expected, and
how some of what looked to be disasters were, in fact, tremendously
beneficial in the end, but, mostly, as seen above, so that others can
gain from our experience.

I did an awful lot of that (gaining from others' experience) in the
early years on this list (where were you, then?), and contribute where
I feel I can make a difference. Aside from attack, what do you
contribute to make a difference?

As in an earlier post, it's your turn to post about your experiences.
I haven't seen any since that post, now some time ago...

L8R

Skip

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Skip, your welcome... and thanks.
And I'm still kicking myself for not making the time to come out and
meet you while you were up north here.
Red

On Sep 28, 11:33 am, wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:09:54 -0000, Skip Gundlach



wrote:
On Sep 27, 7:17 pm, Red wrote:

Red

PS as far as S&L - when I'm working on boats it surprises me how many
times something from one of their stories pops into my head and reminds
me to check something or other out. Ever notice how many boats have
mis-aligned alternator pullies, for instance? And the discussions that
follow his stories are excellent learning opportunities that may not
have taken place had he not written about it in the first place.

Hi, Red, and list,

At the risk of throwing gasoline (diesel?) on the fire, thank you for
that. It's exactly why I post our misadventures. As seen in prior
discussions on the point, I ignore the inevitable flames from those
whose **** don't stink (not just in this forum, so don't feel
special), and engage those looking for additional info or our learning
experiences from the adventure (as they all are, if they don't kill
you).

And, Wilbur, clearly you haven't been paying attention, or perhaps
hadn't shown up in this persona (I don't recall) at the time of our
wreck, but within a couple of days, I did, in fact post (search "I
learned about sailing from that") a rather extensive examination of
how we got to be in that predicament.

I don't "get off" on posting ways we might have done something
different, or the consequences therefrom. I get off on illustrating
how (and why) things can have different outcomes than expected, and
how some of what looked to be disasters were, in fact, tremendously
beneficial in the end, but, mostly, as seen above, so that others can
gain from our experience.

You claim to learn from experience, yet you continue to try and have a
rational conversation with Wilbur/Neal/Ellen.

What's that popular quote about the root of insanity?

:{)) Well said.

OTOH, if it's Neal hiding under there, once in a while he'd let go of
a nugget of truth. Somewhat like Jax, whose whereabouts I've been
unaware for some years, as I pointed out when Neal made a reappearance
a couple of years ago, and for which he thanked me, seeing my comment
as a defense of his blather.

FWIW, and entirely OT, Wilbur claimed to have bought Neal's boat from
his estate a while back, and more recently, claimed to be in
conversation with him. Either he's a medium as well as cyclist, or he
forgets what he sez in which persona :{)) Either way, he's
entertaining, which I understand to be why Bruce continues to engage
him despite the similar lack of actual progress.

I'm off to the hardware store, having managed to have lost the transom
attaching hardware for my Porta-Bote, and to Fawcetts, to see if the
Spinnaker halyard turning block was one of the ones my surveyor said
was recalled by Shaeffer...

L8R

Skip