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On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:54:55 -0600, "Karin Conover-Lewis"
wrote:

While I am personally all for blowing pirates to their eternal reward, I
have to imagine that there might be legal repercussions to such activities.
Unless, of course, you have obtained your Letter of Marque prior to going
cruising. ;-)

What activity? What pirate boat? I don't see any boats......

Dead men don't testify. It never happened.

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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 08:24:20 +0700, anon wrote:


This is not intended to make a case for "never been a pirate attack
here" but rather that there is a lot of rumers about things that never
happened.

I can only relate the story told me. I wasn't there. It was told to
me as I looked over the illegal Russian grenade I was holding. Sorry
I don't know more about it.....

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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 08:24:20 +0700, anon wrote:


This is not intended to make a case for "never been a pirate attack
here" but rather that there is a lot of rumers about things that never
happened.

I can only relate the story told me. I wasn't there. It was told to
me as I looked over the illegal Russian grenade I was holding. Sorry
I don't know more about it.....

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Your assessment is very accurate. I doubt many have bothered to go to this
link and study it like you have. The post where the guy questioned why they
didn't steal dinghy's was case in point. If you read the site, you will see
that the thieves only want the motor. Dinks are only useful to a cruiser.
These are reports from the victims who are actively cruising the Caribbean.
This is the sum of all complaints from the Safety and Security Net.
Everything else is News Group BS
Bruce

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Your assessment is very accurate. I doubt many have bothered to go to this
link and study it like you have. The post where the guy questioned why they
didn't steal dinghy's was case in point. If you read the site, you will see
that the thieves only want the motor. Dinks are only useful to a cruiser.
These are reports from the victims who are actively cruising the Caribbean.
This is the sum of all complaints from the Safety and Security Net.
Everything else is News Group BS
Bruce

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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 04:07:25 GMT,
Lee Huddleston wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 08:30:14 -0500, "Bruce"
wrote:


He is every report of problems in the Caribbean in the last several years
http://www.caribcruisers.com/index.html


Bruce,

Looking at the list of incidents in the Caribbean is instructive.
Besides the numerous thefts or attempted thefts of dinks, there seems
to be an unusual number of boardings while people are asleep on the
boat. In these and the dink stealing instances, guns would be
useless. For the boardings some kind of intruder alarm would seem to
be the most valuable addition to a boat.

Even for those examples when people were robbed at gun point, having a
gun on board would probably not have been helpful. The victim was
usually off the boat and/or was surprised by the robber. If fact, as
I read the list, I could only detect a very few times when I gun on
board might have made the difference. I did not see a single time
when a boat load of armed men approached a boat directly in such a way
that the occupants would have the warning or time to get their gun.
Did I miss something?


While there are many good arguments against carrying a firearm on board,
this is not one of them.

Unless you wish to also throw away that fire extinguisher? after all,
*most* fires occur when you are off the boat, or asleep...

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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 04:07:25 GMT,
Lee Huddleston wrote:
On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 08:30:14 -0500, "Bruce"
wrote:


He is every report of problems in the Caribbean in the last several years
http://www.caribcruisers.com/index.html


Bruce,

Looking at the list of incidents in the Caribbean is instructive.
Besides the numerous thefts or attempted thefts of dinks, there seems
to be an unusual number of boardings while people are asleep on the
boat. In these and the dink stealing instances, guns would be
useless. For the boardings some kind of intruder alarm would seem to
be the most valuable addition to a boat.

Even for those examples when people were robbed at gun point, having a
gun on board would probably not have been helpful. The victim was
usually off the boat and/or was surprised by the robber. If fact, as
I read the list, I could only detect a very few times when I gun on
board might have made the difference. I did not see a single time
when a boat load of armed men approached a boat directly in such a way
that the occupants would have the warning or time to get their gun.
Did I miss something?


While there are many good arguments against carrying a firearm on board,
this is not one of them.

Unless you wish to also throw away that fire extinguisher? after all,
*most* fires occur when you are off the boat, or asleep...

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Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
The real fun of living wisely is that you get to feel smug about it
-- Hobbes

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Curtis CCR wrote:

..... What personal security
risks should be considered for someone considering a bareboat charter
in the Caribbean?

The greatest "personal security risk" for Caribbean bareboating is severe
sunburn. Drinking too much is a close second.

DSK

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Curtis CCR wrote:

..... What personal security
risks should be considered for someone considering a bareboat charter
in the Caribbean?

The greatest "personal security risk" for Caribbean bareboating is severe
sunburn. Drinking too much is a close second.

DSK

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On 31 Dec 2003 17:07:26 -0800, (Curtis CCR)
wrote:


So what parts of the Caribbean would be considered "high risk" for a
small group of young adults on a 50-something foot sailboat? I don't
imagine that the demographic make up of the group or the size of the
boats makes a difference - but if it does...
\

Haven't heard too much about the Carribean, but 2 years ago, the ham
radio net I'm with (the Maritime Net) came to the aid of a family in a
sailboat that was attacked by pirates off the west coast of Honduras.
I've also heard that the northern coast of S. America can be a
problem.

The other factor to consider is the lack of law enforcement/SAR
resources. When that sailboat was attacked off Honduras, the pirates
shot the teenage boy on board. The Honduran Navy does not operate at
night (!) so they wouldn't go get him until the following day. And it
was out of USCG range.

AFAIK, the USCG patrols, along with other nations, the Carribean. If
you have a shortwave radio, you can hear USCG aircraft on 5696 KHz.

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