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Larry
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I'm still stuffed.....(c;
I still don't see how they make a profit. 6 woks going
full blast in the
kitchen! There's 8-10 people just cooking food!


that chicken that you ate, it used to meow.

SBV




You, obviously, haven't seen the price cats bring, lately.....

Larry
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The ultimate dirty bomb......

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:44:37 +0000, Larry wrote:

There's no place to SAIL and not much of
a place to BOAT in Florida.

You obviously haven't spent much time in Florida. We've been putting
several hundred hours a year on two different boats and there are
still places we haven't been yet.

isn't the Atlantic Ocean still close to Fla.?

SBV


"Larry" wrote in message
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.. Awful place.


As usual, you missed the point. There's no place to SAIL
and not much of
a place to BOAT in Florida.

Wayne.B wrote:

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 17:44:37 +0000, Larry wrote:

There's no place to SAIL and not much of
a place to BOAT in Florida.

You obviously haven't spent much time in Florida. We've been putting
several hundred hours a year on two different boats and there are
still places we haven't been yet.

My husband's opinion is the same as far as the sailing goes. There's
plenty of boating - for motor boats. Lots of places to go - for shoal
draft boats with no masts.

Although there is the Atlantic on the east - it isn't at all
sheltered, and the Gulf Stream does make it tricky sometimes, and
occasionally dangerous.

There are places we really like in Florida, and even a few places
where there is good sailing, but not like the Chesapeake.

Although it is better than Georgia.

"Larry" wrote in message
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As usual, you missed the point. There's no place to SAIL and not much
of a place to BOAT in Florida.

On 2007-09-07 22:34:02 -0400, "Scotty" said:

isn't the Atlantic Ocean still close to Fla.?

SBV

Can you say *boring*? It's okay to use the Atlantic to get to somewhere
else, but that's voyaging, not cruising.

Here on the Chesapeake, we have dozens of *favorite* anchorages within
an easy weekend range, too many to visit in any one season. We've done
about a dozen weeks all told visiting *only* new anchorages, and still
have two two-week (minimum) trips to do to reach just the best of the
rest.

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Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

"Jere Lull" wrote in

isn't the Atlantic Ocean still close to Fla.?

SBV

Can you say *boring*? It's okay to use the Atlantic to get
to somewhere
else, but that's voyaging, not cruising.

Here on the Chesapeake, we have dozens of *favorite*
anchorages within
an easy weekend range, too many to visit in any one
season. We've done
about a dozen weeks all told visiting *only* new
anchorages, and still
have two two-week (minimum) trips to do to reach just the
best of the
rest.


Well, yeah! Ever been to Broad creek ( off the Magothy)?

Scott Vernon
Seidelmann 295
Middle River, MD

Jere Lull wrote in news:2007091020270316807-
jerelull@maccom:

Here on the Chesapeake, we have dozens of *favorite* anchorages within
an easy weekend range, too many to visit in any one season. We've done
about a dozen weeks all told visiting *only* new anchorages, and still
have two two-week (minimum) trips to do to reach just the best of the
rest.



Charleston is like that. There are hundreds of uninhabited islands to
explore, many with Atlantic beaches unspoiled by real estate tycoons and
developers because they simply can't get there...except for Dewees Island
which has a ferry just N of the Isle of Palms. North of that to
Georgetown, the Atlantic beachfront is simply VACANT! You can lay out on
a half mile of nice beach and be the only footprints, or you can go to
other places where only boaters can go.

A great day tour is the Cooper River-Tailrace Canal from Charleston to
Moncks Corner. We even took Dan's Hatteras 56 motor yacht up there for
the weekend, much to the dismay of the lock operator...(c; Your only
cost to use the lock is to tell the operator the name of your boat and
where you're from. We anchored the Hat off a little island in the lake
for the night and came back downriver into the salt...all flushed out I
might add...the next day. Before we did it, I made a mark on the hull
labeled "Salt". Once in the lake, I made another mark further up the
hull marked "Fresh". They were still there when he sold the boat...(c;
It's amazing how much better salt water floats a boat. Even the missing
fuel from the trip couldn't compensate for the difference in density.

Some guy on a nice deck boat came over and asked us if we were lost! I
said, "Isn't this the way to Georgetown?? We're headed to Boston." As
he was curious about the inside of the yacht and had a really NICE mess
of landlocked bass to share for lunch on the flybridge lounge, it was a
great day. We left the Hat on the deck boat to tour around some
shallower water to sightsee. Not all the great places are in the salt.

Going through the no-wake zone by the waterfront seafood restaurant at
Moncks Corner was also great fun. The Hat looked like a SHIP was going
by, compared to the normal runabout/jetski/pontoon boats they see. The
dock was too crowded with small boats to stop for lunch on Sunday or we'd
have tied her up and ate there. Some restaurant workers were taking a
smoke break on the dock and I asked them, "Can I use your
boatramp?"...hee hee...(c;

Larry
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You gotta drive the Hat slow by the docks. The wake might take out
someone's LIVING ROOM!

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:23:42 +0000, Larry wrote:

A great day tour is the Cooper River-Tailrace Canal from Charleston to
Moncks Corner. We even took Dan's Hatteras 56 motor yacht up there for
the weekend, much to the dismay of the lock operator...(c; Your only
cost to use the lock is to tell the operator the name of your boat and
where you're from.

Larry, I'm interested in making that trip up the Cooper River some
time.

Some questions: What is the northern limit for a boat drawing 5.5 ft
and with an air draft of 28 ft? Are there any bridges or locks with
restricted operating hours? Would it be a good place to hide out from
a coastal hurricane?

I can reduce the air draft to about 19 ft by dropping the mast but
that is a lot of effort.

On 2007-09-10 21:42:44 -0400, "Scotty" said:

Well, yeah! Ever been to Broad creek ( off the Magothy)?

Of course! Close enough for a day trip and we have friends from there
that come over to our side from time to time.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Wayne.B wrote in
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:23:42 +0000, Larry wrote:

A great day tour is the Cooper River-Tailrace Canal from Charleston to
Moncks Corner. We even took Dan's Hatteras 56 motor yacht up there for
the weekend, much to the dismay of the lock operator...(c; Your only
cost to use the lock is to tell the operator the name of your boat and
where you're from.

Larry, I'm interested in making that trip up the Cooper River some
time.

Some questions: What is the northern limit for a boat drawing 5.5 ft
and with an air draft of 28 ft? Are there any bridges or locks with
restricted operating hours? Would it be a good place to hide out from
a coastal hurricane?

I can reduce the air draft to about 19 ft by dropping the mast but
that is a lot of effort.


I don't believe there are any restrictions below 28'. The River is used
for ship and barge traffic to the steel mill (Nucor) a long ways upriver
and is much deeper than 5' all the way to the lake due to the infrequent
heavy flow from the old electric generators that have been replaced by a
steam plant, now.

It's a great trip. Anyone can go up the 75' inside the lock for free.
I've been through the lock in my jetski many times. They make jetskiiers
stand on the floating dock that rides up on the lock wall all the small
boats raft up to for the ride.

In the lake you MUST be very careful in ANY boat! Lakes Moultrie and
Marion were made by the CCC back in the 30's in an awful hurry, without
too much thinking it seems. Trees were simply felled, their tall stumps
left to rot underwater, creating fantastic fishing habitat...but terrible
hazards to boats in many places. There was no time with the flooding to
remove the logs, so they were simply chained down to the ground before
the water flooded them. The chains have rotted away and waterlogged logs
roam the lakes NOT FLOATING. At and near the dam where the lock is, the
water is over 100' deep. But, this lake bottom was once LAND, not long
ago. There are whole towns underwater! The hilly country makes some
great channels, but some really shallow parts, too. A marked channel
goes across the lake to the "Diversion Canal" that goes between the
lakes. The upper lake, Marion, is far worse in "exposed forest" than the
lower. You just have to keep a sharp watch.

Make sure you have plenty of fuel aboard. Marinas sell GAS to small
boats, but they are very few and far between with very limited dockage
too small for a 28' boat and 5' of draft. I don't think there is any
diesel above Charleston.

The lakes have no commercial traffic above the plants on the river. So,
you can anchor about anyplace your heart desires without fear of being
run down by ships and barges. There's lots of little islands that stick
up out of the water. They belong to the power company and are not
private. The land around the lake is leased to the house owners and has
only recently started to be sold to those who want to own the land their
house sits on. The utility is owned by the state.

Here's some interesting information:
http://www.thamesbassfishingadventures.com/id3.html

http://www.navysailing.org/newslette.../southeast.htm
The Charleston Yacht Club cruises up to Short Stay, the Navy recreation
area right near the lock in August. Those boats ALL have 50-60' masts so
I think that answers your height question I wasn't sure of.

http://kfmaps.com/detail.aspx?ID=46
charts

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/CHS/RECCHS
WX Lake Moultrie - water is 84F for your bath.

https://www.dnr.sc.gov/
SC Dept of Natural Resources....Lakes are very low due to drought, now.
This will make cruising an issue until it improves.

https://www.dnr.sc.gov/water/hydro/gages.htm
Water Guages across SC....the bad news.


Larry
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