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On Aug 23, 6:02 am, Bob wrote:
My dear Skip,

I have responded to several of your posts yet no word from you. I will
offer another idea and hope you reply.

As I read this post I get the impression that NOAA is the red headed
step child who never does anythig right. My adivse to yo is to enjoy
the information. Why, cause mariners before yo did not have such a
luxury. Say thyan you to the NOAA people and send them alll a
christmas present

Bob who just got drunk with a Bosun 3rd class from east coast now
driving 47' motor boats on the west coast. Soon to go to surfboat
school. Anybody know Surfman Beth?


Hi, Bob,

My apologies - on the water, I'm an equal-opportunity ignorer.
Actually, nobody's ignored - I just have very limited access and
worse, limited power with which to gain that access. Once we stop
moving so much it will get easier and you'll see more of the
interchange that used to be the norm once I open my digital mouth.

And, in general, this thread was just another of my log posts, not a
request for better weather. I know that you takes what you gets.

In this particular instance, just as was the case in our wreck's
journey, however, the system went to hell in a handbasket in a very
short period. This time, I turned around. I have no doubt that the
boat, under a double or triple reef main, sailing the weather rather
than the course, would have done just fine. However, when the Admiral
is adamant, I don't get into arguments. Since reefing (and its
attendant deck duty) was vetoed, I continued for a bit, but then
headed in.

I have not yet fired up the weather, but last night's forecast was
adequate for the Jersey coast. Unless it's deteriorated, we're off
again in just a little bit. Call it schedulitis, but I want to be in
NYC before dark, which means that going soon is a good idea, as it
should put us there in the early morning; the rest of the day
accommodates mother nature and Murphy fairly reasonably.

On which subject, how does anyone with a destination *NOT* have
"schedulitis" as defined in commentary on our travels? And isn't, as
it's defined, the very act of planning a voyage, a commission of the
sin? If not, how does one ever arrive anywhere, whether by accident
or because they just want to go there? I want to go to NY because
relatives live there. More will arrive. But if I'm not there on a
certain date, one will continue to be there as he has for the last 30+
years, and the other will enjoy his company. But somehow I'm taken to
task for looking forward to arriving...

I gotta go and do the pre-departures. I'll try to come back at some
of the myriad of prior commentary which begs response...

L8R

Skip

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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:59:17 -0000, Skip Gundlach
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On which subject, how does anyone with a destination *NOT* have
"schedulitis" as defined in commentary on our travels? And isn't, as
it's defined, the very act of planning a voyage, a commission of the
sin? If not, how does one ever arrive anywhere, whether by accident
or because they just want to go there? I want to go to NY because
relatives live there. More will arrive. But if I'm not there on a
certain date, one will continue to be there as he has for the last 30+
years, and the other will enjoy his company. But somehow I'm taken to
task for looking forward to arriving...

I've run across the "somebody is flying in" quandary countless times
in cruiser journals, and have no real answer for it. The closest I
can think of is to plan to be at a location at least a week before
guests arrive. But even that can fall prey to "The best laid plans"
syndrome, a malady especially common to sailors.

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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:59:17 -0000, Skip Gundlach
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On which subject, how does anyone with a destination *NOT* have
"schedulitis" as defined in commentary on our travels? And isn't, as
it's defined, the very act of planning a voyage, a commission of the
sin?


Not at all. Planning where you want to go, and when you want to get
there are two different things. Unless you plan to continue taking
risks with your boat and safety, you've got to be more flexible with
the weather. If you head out and find unfavorable conditions, or
conditions start to deteriorate while your out there, it's time to
activate Plan B, Plan C, etc. This happens all too frequently and you
always need to have an alternative destination that you can reach in a
reasonable length of time. Sailing or motoring long distances to
windward is not something you want to be doing. It's tough on the
people, and tough on the boat and equipment.

We bailed out three times on our own trip north back in June. It
certainly cost time and distance but we never got over extended as a
result. As a fringe benefit we saw some very interesting places that
we would have missed otherwise. When the weather or sea conditions
hand you a lemon, make lemonade with it and enjoy. Discussions with
others about arrival times should always include "maybe", "probably",
"weather permitting", etc. Successful cruising is as much about
enjoying where you are as it is the enjoyment of getting some where.
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"Skip Gundlach" wrote in message
oups.com...
On which subject, how does anyone with a destination *NOT* have
"schedulitis" as defined in commentary on our travels? And isn't, as
it's defined, the very act of planning a voyage, a commission of the
sin? If not, how does one ever arrive anywhere, whether by accident
or because they just want to go there? I want to go to NY because
relatives live there. More will arrive. But if I'm not there on a
certain date, one will continue to be there as he has for the last 30+
years, and the other will enjoy his company. But somehow I'm taken to
task for looking forward to arriving...

I gotta go and do the pre-departures. I'll try to come back at some
of the myriad of prior commentary which begs response...


Skip, I think you're already well on the way to a cure by stating that you
will leave at a certain time "as long as the weather doesn't deteriorate."
Nothing wrong with having plans -- as long as plans don't overrule safety.
If the weather is good tomorrow, we'll sail and arrive at (blank) the next
day. If conditions are bad, we'll wait it out. If we have to wait a couple
of weeks, so be it.


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On Aug 23, 11:17 am, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"Skip Gundlach" wrote in message

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On which subject, how does anyone with a destination *NOT* have
"schedulitis" as defined in commentary on our travels? And isn't, as
it's defined, the very act of planning a voyage, a commission of the
sin? If not, how does one ever arrive anywhere, whether by accident
or because they just want to go there? I want to go to NY because
relatives live there. More will arrive. But if I'm not there on a
certain date, one will continue to be there as he has for the last 30+
years, and the other will enjoy his company. But somehow I'm taken to
task for looking forward to arriving...


I gotta go and do the pre-departures. I'll try to come back at some
of the myriad of prior commentary which begs response...


Skip, I think you're already well on the way to a cure by stating that you
will leave at a certain time "as long as the weather doesn't deteriorate."
Nothing wrong with having plans -- as long as plans don't overrule safety.
If the weather is good tomorrow, we'll sail and arrive at (blank) the next
day. If conditions are bad, we'll wait it out. If we have to wait a couple
of weeks, so be it.



Cruising is boat repair in exotic locations...

I don't know that I'd consider Cape May exotic, but it's where we're
doing some boat repairs today instead of going out into OK weather,
because tomorrow looks even better.

And, all those times we were in marinas in the trip so far were, in
fact, just the making of lemonade. We've had some great times doing
what we're doing - and we're not in Sandy Hook yet :{))

Same old stuff on same old boats, new problems arise, and we deal with
them. We moved anchor to get closer to the action, and got better
internet for it, so I just got off an hour on the phone over the
Vonage VoIP which includes England in the base rate, talking with
Lydia's mom, who will be in NY on September 1 whether we're there or
not :{)) Lydia's off in the dink shipping a broken/non-functioning
instrument off for repair and getting supplies, and who knows what
she'll bring back this time (last time it was a cat, as seen in
another thread)...

Despite what it seems, we're not idiots nor do we have a death wish.
With an uninsured boat, we're, if anything, extra cautious. But we're
out here doing it, despite what is now, about 10 years of disbelief
from various quarters, with each stage having its new Thomases.

We continue to take counsel - it's one of the ways I got this far. I
don't take umbrage (or, at least, extraordinarily infrequently) - but
sometimes don't respond to some of the obvious stuff which we're
already doing, but which my reports sometimes suggest may not be
known, let alone exercised :{)) As seen, I'm not the least bit afraid
to make fun of myself and my foibles. If I couldn't, I'd be very
depressed at the various obstructions to smooth sailing which have
either arisen, or we've put in our way.

So, y'all keep on telling us what we should do, or should have done,
or might do in the future. We read it all, and absorb it. Lots of it
gets done...

And, I'll keep on posting about how I screwed up, or missed the
obvious, or overcame challenges - and, once in a while, when there's
no calamities to report, just comment on how we smelled the flowers :
{))

Gotta go fix stuff; then relax and get something to eat - too busy so
far today to do that, other than a cuppa.

L8R

Skip

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