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On Aug 23, 6:02 am, Bob wrote:
My dear Skip, I have responded to several of your posts yet no word from you. I will offer another idea and hope you reply. As I read this post I get the impression that NOAA is the red headed step child who never does anythig right. My adivse to yo is to enjoy the information. Why, cause mariners before yo did not have such a luxury. Say thyan you to the NOAA people and send them alll a christmas present Bob who just got drunk with a Bosun 3rd class from east coast now driving 47' motor boats on the west coast. Soon to go to surfboat school. Anybody know Surfman Beth? Hi, Bob, My apologies - on the water, I'm an equal-opportunity ignorer. Actually, nobody's ignored - I just have very limited access and worse, limited power with which to gain that access. Once we stop moving so much it will get easier and you'll see more of the interchange that used to be the norm once I open my digital mouth. And, in general, this thread was just another of my log posts, not a request for better weather. I know that you takes what you gets. In this particular instance, just as was the case in our wreck's journey, however, the system went to hell in a handbasket in a very short period. This time, I turned around. I have no doubt that the boat, under a double or triple reef main, sailing the weather rather than the course, would have done just fine. However, when the Admiral is adamant, I don't get into arguments. Since reefing (and its attendant deck duty) was vetoed, I continued for a bit, but then headed in. I have not yet fired up the weather, but last night's forecast was adequate for the Jersey coast. Unless it's deteriorated, we're off again in just a little bit. Call it schedulitis, but I want to be in NYC before dark, which means that going soon is a good idea, as it should put us there in the early morning; the rest of the day accommodates mother nature and Murphy fairly reasonably. On which subject, how does anyone with a destination *NOT* have "schedulitis" as defined in commentary on our travels? And isn't, as it's defined, the very act of planning a voyage, a commission of the sin? If not, how does one ever arrive anywhere, whether by accident or because they just want to go there? I want to go to NY because relatives live there. More will arrive. But if I'm not there on a certain date, one will continue to be there as he has for the last 30+ years, and the other will enjoy his company. But somehow I'm taken to task for looking forward to arriving... I gotta go and do the pre-departures. I'll try to come back at some of the myriad of prior commentary which begs response... L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog and/or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah) |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:59:17 -0000, Skip Gundlach
wrote: On which subject, how does anyone with a destination *NOT* have "schedulitis" as defined in commentary on our travels? And isn't, as it's defined, the very act of planning a voyage, a commission of the sin? If not, how does one ever arrive anywhere, whether by accident or because they just want to go there? I want to go to NY because relatives live there. More will arrive. But if I'm not there on a certain date, one will continue to be there as he has for the last 30+ years, and the other will enjoy his company. But somehow I'm taken to task for looking forward to arriving... I've run across the "somebody is flying in" quandary countless times in cruiser journals, and have no real answer for it. The closest I can think of is to plan to be at a location at least a week before guests arrive. But even that can fall prey to "The best laid plans" syndrome, a malady especially common to sailors. --Vic |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:59:17 -0000, Skip Gundlach
wrote: On which subject, how does anyone with a destination *NOT* have "schedulitis" as defined in commentary on our travels? And isn't, as it's defined, the very act of planning a voyage, a commission of the sin? Not at all. Planning where you want to go, and when you want to get there are two different things. Unless you plan to continue taking risks with your boat and safety, you've got to be more flexible with the weather. If you head out and find unfavorable conditions, or conditions start to deteriorate while your out there, it's time to activate Plan B, Plan C, etc. This happens all too frequently and you always need to have an alternative destination that you can reach in a reasonable length of time. Sailing or motoring long distances to windward is not something you want to be doing. It's tough on the people, and tough on the boat and equipment. We bailed out three times on our own trip north back in June. It certainly cost time and distance but we never got over extended as a result. As a fringe benefit we saw some very interesting places that we would have missed otherwise. When the weather or sea conditions hand you a lemon, make lemonade with it and enjoy. Discussions with others about arrival times should always include "maybe", "probably", "weather permitting", etc. Successful cruising is as much about enjoying where you are as it is the enjoyment of getting some where. |
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![]() "Skip Gundlach" wrote in message oups.com... On which subject, how does anyone with a destination *NOT* have "schedulitis" as defined in commentary on our travels? And isn't, as it's defined, the very act of planning a voyage, a commission of the sin? If not, how does one ever arrive anywhere, whether by accident or because they just want to go there? I want to go to NY because relatives live there. More will arrive. But if I'm not there on a certain date, one will continue to be there as he has for the last 30+ years, and the other will enjoy his company. But somehow I'm taken to task for looking forward to arriving... I gotta go and do the pre-departures. I'll try to come back at some of the myriad of prior commentary which begs response... Skip, I think you're already well on the way to a cure by stating that you will leave at a certain time "as long as the weather doesn't deteriorate." Nothing wrong with having plans -- as long as plans don't overrule safety. If the weather is good tomorrow, we'll sail and arrive at (blank) the next day. If conditions are bad, we'll wait it out. If we have to wait a couple of weeks, so be it. |
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On Aug 23, 11:17 am, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"Skip Gundlach" wrote in message oups.com... On which subject, how does anyone with a destination *NOT* have "schedulitis" as defined in commentary on our travels? And isn't, as it's defined, the very act of planning a voyage, a commission of the sin? If not, how does one ever arrive anywhere, whether by accident or because they just want to go there? I want to go to NY because relatives live there. More will arrive. But if I'm not there on a certain date, one will continue to be there as he has for the last 30+ years, and the other will enjoy his company. But somehow I'm taken to task for looking forward to arriving... I gotta go and do the pre-departures. I'll try to come back at some of the myriad of prior commentary which begs response... Skip, I think you're already well on the way to a cure by stating that you will leave at a certain time "as long as the weather doesn't deteriorate." Nothing wrong with having plans -- as long as plans don't overrule safety. If the weather is good tomorrow, we'll sail and arrive at (blank) the next day. If conditions are bad, we'll wait it out. If we have to wait a couple of weeks, so be it. Cruising is boat repair in exotic locations... I don't know that I'd consider Cape May exotic, but it's where we're doing some boat repairs today instead of going out into OK weather, because tomorrow looks even better. And, all those times we were in marinas in the trip so far were, in fact, just the making of lemonade. We've had some great times doing what we're doing - and we're not in Sandy Hook yet :{)) Same old stuff on same old boats, new problems arise, and we deal with them. We moved anchor to get closer to the action, and got better internet for it, so I just got off an hour on the phone over the Vonage VoIP which includes England in the base rate, talking with Lydia's mom, who will be in NY on September 1 whether we're there or not :{)) Lydia's off in the dink shipping a broken/non-functioning instrument off for repair and getting supplies, and who knows what she'll bring back this time (last time it was a cat, as seen in another thread)... Despite what it seems, we're not idiots nor do we have a death wish. With an uninsured boat, we're, if anything, extra cautious. But we're out here doing it, despite what is now, about 10 years of disbelief from various quarters, with each stage having its new Thomases. We continue to take counsel - it's one of the ways I got this far. I don't take umbrage (or, at least, extraordinarily infrequently) - but sometimes don't respond to some of the obvious stuff which we're already doing, but which my reports sometimes suggest may not be known, let alone exercised :{)) As seen, I'm not the least bit afraid to make fun of myself and my foibles. If I couldn't, I'd be very depressed at the various obstructions to smooth sailing which have either arisen, or we've put in our way. So, y'all keep on telling us what we should do, or should have done, or might do in the future. We read it all, and absorb it. Lots of it gets done... And, I'll keep on posting about how I screwed up, or missed the obvious, or overcame challenges - and, once in a while, when there's no calamities to report, just comment on how we smelled the flowers : {)) Gotta go fix stuff; then relax and get something to eat - too busy so far today to do that, other than a cuppa. L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC See our galleries at www.justpickone.org/skip/gallery ! Follow us at http://groups.google.com/group/flyingpiglog and/or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheFlyingPigLog "You are never given a wish without also being given the power to make it come true. You may have to work for it however." (and) "There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." (Richard Bach, in The Reluctant Messiah) |
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