... who (in Louisiana preferably) supplies this?

It used to be available all over the place, but no-one seems to have
any, any more.

Is this a plot to sell more batteries?

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Molesworth

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:24:39 -0500, Molesworth
wrote:

.. who (in Louisiana preferably) supplies this?

It used to be available all over the place, but no-one seems to have
any, any more.

Go to some friendly battery dealer, and get some from the old trade-
ins. The plates wear out, not the acid.

Is this a plot to sell more batteries?

Probably not. Just too little demand.

Casady

Molesworth wrote in news:ukmole-
:

.. who (in Louisiana preferably) supplies this?

It used to be available all over the place, but no-one seems to have
any, any more.

Is this a plot to sell more batteries?


95% of the batteries no longer have openings to pour it into, which is a
VERY dangerous operation.

Adding acid to a dying battery is NOT a solution as all it does is eat
holes in the already eaten away plates that are left...give you a false
gravity reading without the real capacity to back it up.

The original acid load always disappears due to lead sulphate
crystallizing, making the acid unrecoverable...which also makes the lead
unrecoverable. Acid is not consumed, unrecoverably, for any other reason
unless you boil it out. It does not need "replacing" like water, that is
converted into hydrogen gas, is.

Larry
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In article ,
Larry wrote:

Molesworth wrote in news:ukmole-
:

.. who (in Louisiana preferably) supplies this?

It used to be available all over the place, but no-one seems to have
any, any more.

Is this a plot to sell more batteries?


95% of the batteries no longer have openings to pour it into, which is a
VERY dangerous operation.

So 'Yes' to the plot then.

:-)

--
Molesworth - who has topped-up batteries for 45 years or more.. when
needed.

Molesworth wrote in news:ukmole-
:

So 'Yes' to the plot then.

:-)


I think more "no" to the lawyers waiting to sue the battery store selling
acid. Would YOU want to sell highly toxic acid to litigation-happy
customers? Are you crazy?!!

Larry
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In article ,
Larry wrote:

Molesworth wrote in news:ukmole-
:

So 'Yes' to the plot then.

:-)


I think more "no" to the lawyers waiting to sue the battery store selling
acid. Would YOU want to sell highly toxic acid to litigation-happy
customers? Are you crazy?!!

No, I'm English.

I postulated that the unavailablitity of battery distilled water *might*
have been down to a plot by the battery manufacturers who don't want
batteries lasting longer. Similar situation years ago with shock
absorbers on cars; planned obsolescence.

But I take your point (sigh).

--
Molesworth

Molesworth wrote in news:ukmole-
:

I postulated that the unavailablitity of battery distilled water

Wait! You said battery acid, before, didn't you?

Distilled water is available in every grocery store in the USA in many
forms. I make mine with a still in my kitchen to have clean drinking
water, free of government tampering, to drink.
http://www.waterwise.com/productcart...p?idproduct=24
It makes water with about .12ppm total dissolved solids, after passing
through the carbon post-filter. It doesn't even conduct electricity!

Sorry if I was confused about what you were looking for....

Larry
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On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 01:23:11 +0000, Larry wrote:

Molesworth wrote in news:ukmole-
:

So 'Yes' to the plot then.

:-)


I think more "no" to the lawyers waiting to sue the battery store selling
acid.

Just say no to lawyers? Good idea. Use a shotgun.

Would YOU want to sell highly toxic acid to litigation-happy
customers? Are you crazy?!!

The acid is not particularly toxic, just corrosive. It is hydrogen
ions, found in your stomach already, and sulphate ions. Magnesium
sulphate is the well known Epsom salts. You can swallow a lot of it,
and while it is a laxative, it will not poison you. Vinegar is the
toxic one. A pint of regular vinegar will likely kill you. It is a
popular means of suicide in Russia. All you need is, oddly enough,is
over the counter antacids, to drink a good bit of dilute sulfuric
acid and suffer no real ill effects. The 98% stuff is highly dangerous
and they sell that to open clogged drains. The battery stuff is
dilute, and much less dangerous.

They sell concentrated sulfuric acid at the grocery store, as well as
deadly vinegar and glycol, not to mention lye, pure sodium hydroxide.
That stuff is really corrosive. It will dissolve a human body. The fat
turns into soap. You want grocery store toxic, check out the thallium
salts. Sold to kill ants. Mouse poison, roach poison, fly killer. Some
of that stuff is quite similar to nerve gas. Lots of hazmat at the
supermarket. For the inhaler of glue, toluene by the quart.

Casady

(Richard Casady) wrote in
:

They sell concentrated sulfuric acid at the grocery store, as well as
deadly vinegar and glycol, not to mention lye, pure sodium hydroxide.
That stuff is really corrosive. It will dissolve a human body. The fat
turns into soap. You want grocery store toxic, check out the thallium
salts. Sold to kill ants. Mouse poison, roach poison, fly killer. Some
of that stuff is quite similar to nerve gas. Lots of hazmat at the
supermarket. For the inhaler of glue, toluene by the quart.


Oh, I know! I used to mix them together to see if we could get them to
explode...again...from under my mother's sink when I was 12....(c;

Remember "Chemistry Sets"?....(c;

Larry
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:12:06 +0000, Larry wrote:

95% of the batteries no longer have openings to pour it into, which is a
VERY dangerous operation.
I don't know about VERY, but gloves and goggles are called for, and a
plastic apron isn't a bad Idea. Stuff is harder on clothes than on
skin.
Adding acid to a dying battery is NOT a solution as all it does is eat
holes in the already eaten away plates that are left...give you a false
gravity reading without the real capacity to back it up.

You add acid to only to replace spillage. Add stuff just like what is
there, same specific gravity. Cover the tops of the plates.

The original acid load always disappears due to lead sulphate
crystallizing, making the acid unrecoverable...which also makes the lead
unrecoverable. Acid is not consumed, unrecoverably, for any other reason
unless you boil it out.

It has a pretty high boiling point. 338 C, 640 F, for the pure stuff,
[which does not help this discussion much]. The water lowers the
boiling point. Is boiling the acid common? That has to be bad . Lot
of corrosion around many batteries in cars, so acid does seem to
escape.

It does not need "replacing" like water, that is
converted into hydrogen gas, is.

And they make them so you can't add water. *******s.

Casady