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That is consistent with what I observed. The units were about the size of a
25 KW generator and required a lot of understanding and tweaking to function properly. The reason it came to my notice was everyone's amazement that the engineer was able to get more water out than even the manufacturer (DeLaval?) thought possible. This wouldn't be a current option unless someone were to produce a scaled down unit for trawler yacht size boats. Even larger craft have gone largely to reverse osmosis because they are less troublesome to run and manage. -- Roger Long |
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"Roger Long" wrote in news:46cc4cf3$0$18928
: Even larger craft have gone largely to reverse osmosis because they are less troublesome to run and manage. You can tell the Love Boat industry has gone to RO because of the number of people who have been poisoned drinking it. Larry -- |
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:42:08 +0000, Larry wrote:
"Roger Long" wrote in news:46cc4cf3$0$18928 : Even larger craft have gone largely to reverse osmosis because they are less troublesome to run and manage. You can tell the Love Boat industry has gone to RO because of the number of people who have been poisoned drinking it. Larry Not necessarily so Larry, We had 3, 3,000 gal/day R.O units on oil production barges in the Java sea for about 5 years. While I agree that they require maintenance they were far easier to maintain then the exhaust heater and vacuum chamber distillation plant I maintained in Irian Jaya. The installations we had were commercial units with detailed operation manuals. We simply followed the schedule for back flushing and cleaning the membranes and they produced drinkable water for the entire period we used them. We know that as we took weekly samples from the tanks and had them laboratory tested as part of our contractual obligations with the client. On the other hand, people who either don't know, or don't care what equipment they have and how to maintain it shouldn't use it. Bruce in Bangkok (brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom) |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 02:18:33 +0000, Larry wrote:
wrote in news:8fqpc31amu1btj9jpfltdtuoo244e4b94h@ 4ax.com: We simply followed the schedule for back flushing and cleaning the membranes and they produced drinkable water for the entire period we used them. We know that as we took weekly samples from the tanks and had them laboratory tested as part of our contractual obligations with the client. Wouldn't it be fun to try to look at the lab reports on RO water from a cruise ship that's in port just long enough to pickup supplies and the next load of suckers for the craps tables. Larry Yes, it might well be enlightening. We did the lab testing because we had to do it and report the results to ARCO on a weekly basis. One assumes that they had some water problems in the past. Another point was they we were 50 - 60 miles off shore and took our water from roughly the depth of the barge. i.e., the intakes were in the bottom of the one of the tanks so were feeding the thing with the cleanest water available to us. Interestingly the only major problem we had with the units, other then sucking up a load of oily water before we moved the intakes, were the seals in the high pressure pumps which were made in England. But as we had a coupl;e of guys who crew changed to the U.K. we just had them hand carry a bunch of seals back every time they returned from break. By the way, I have a mate who is into the distilling business, although he distills a mixture of sugar and water:-). What kind of still are you using? A simple pot still or a reflux unit? Bruce in Bangkok (brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom) |
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wrote in news:133qc3hf5f01d6al3o2io0j2ubvt81lu36@
4ax.com: By the way, I have a mate who is into the distilling business, although he distills a mixture of sugar and water:-). What kind of still are you using? A simple pot still or a reflux unit? http://www.waterwise.com/productcart...p?idproduct=24 a gift from a friend who bought a bigger one: http://www.waterwise.com/productcart...p?idcategory=3 &idproduct=23 I was using a ceramic pot distiller someone had turned into a thrift shop I'd bought for $5 because noone knew what it was for. I still have it but it isn't near as efficient as this Waterwise countertop unit. The lab one will distill continuously as it hooks to the sink faucet with a special aeriator that has a fitting on it to seal the hose to and makes about 12 gallons a day, if you need that much. It distills directly into my 6" carbon column setting on top of a 5 gallon water jug for unattended operation. But, it loses so much heat from its ceramic pot and I gave up trying to insulate it for more efficiency after my friend gave me this countertop unit which, other than the condenser fan outlet, hardly loses any heat at all. My friend got the biggest one, which runs itself in his garage, all plumbed in to keep its exhaust heat out of his house in HOT South Carolina. I makes water until its full, then shuts down until you use it nearly up, with automatic feed like my lab unit has. It also runs on 220VAC with lots more power. Larry -- |
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:49:58 +0000, Larry wrote:
wrote in news:133qc3hf5f01d6al3o2io0j2ubvt81lu36@ 4ax.com: By the way, I have a mate who is into the distilling business, although he distills a mixture of sugar and water:-). What kind of still are you using? A simple pot still or a reflux unit? http://www.waterwise.com/productcart...p?idproduct=24 a gift from a friend who bought a bigger one: http://www.waterwise.com/productcart...p?idcategory=3 &idproduct=23 I was using a ceramic pot distiller someone had turned into a thrift shop I'd bought for $5 because noone knew what it was for. I still have it but it isn't near as efficient as this Waterwise countertop unit. The lab one will distill continuously as it hooks to the sink faucet with a special aeriator that has a fitting on it to seal the hose to and makes about 12 gallons a day, if you need that much. It distills directly into my 6" carbon column setting on top of a 5 gallon water jug for unattended operation. But, it loses so much heat from its ceramic pot and I gave up trying to insulate it for more efficiency after my friend gave me this countertop unit which, other than the condenser fan outlet, hardly loses any heat at all. My friend got the biggest one, which runs itself in his garage, all plumbed in to keep its exhaust heat out of his house in HOT South Carolina. I makes water until its full, then shuts down until you use it nearly up, with automatic feed like my lab unit has. It also runs on 220VAC with lots more power. Larry Just out of curiosity, how is the steam condensed? I watched the animated show and that subject didn;t seem to be mentioned. My mate uses a 3 inch stainless reflux still but he is running twenty gallon batches. Bruce in Bangkok (brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom) |
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