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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...

You stated the lights for NUC would be in addition to the "normal"
running lights..... correct?
The normal running lights for a powerdriven vessel would also include
masthead and possibly, range, which would not be shown with NUC no
matter
making or not making way.
Your mistake is including NUC with RAM and CBD in this example.

OK, I agree, I was wrong. I was talking about the bow and stern lights
but I should've included the range and masthead lights. Good point. I
bow to your superior practical knowledge and attention to detail.

Wilbur Hubbard







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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...


You may wish to read that section of the Rules again, Willy



I don't need to read it. I have eidetic memory. You may have read
what
I
wrote wrong.

From memory, this is what the the rules in question say:

Rule 21 - (in part) An all around light covers 360 degrees.

Rule 27 - A vessel Not Under Command shall display:
(a) two all around round red lights in a vertical line where they can
best be seen,
(b) two black balls or similar shapes in a vertical line where they
can
best be seen and (c) when making way through the water, in addition
to
the lights prescribed in this paragraph, sidelights and a sternlight.

Don't even try to challenge me on my Rules verbiage know-how. You
can't
win.

Wilbur Hubbard





"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
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As usual, Ganz is wrong. Wrong with respect to the last part of
his
sentence that is. When the fool says "you would see red on green on
the
port and starboard and a white stern."

Wrong, wrong, wrong! Lights for NUC, RAM, CBD, etc are lights "in
addition to" the normal running lights. They are "all around
lights"
and
can be seen in addition to the normal running lights from any angle
a
vessel is viewed.

For somebody who claims to have a Captain's license, Ganz sure is
ignorant.

Wilbur Hubbard

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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...
"Capt. JG" wrote in
:

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...

You stated the lights for NUC would be in addition to the "normal"
running lights..... correct?
The normal running lights for a powerdriven vessel would also
include
masthead and possibly, range, which would not be shown with NUC no
matter making or not making way.
Your mistake is including NUC with RAM and CBD in this example.



Maybe Neal was confused because he was watching a Three Stooges movie
while typing.


Neal say he can quote "chapter and Verse" of the Rules...... will have
to
take his word for that, but there's a big difference between quoting
and
knowing what it means/ interpreting..... and here he constantly falls
short.

You're right, but what's Neal have to do with me, Wilbur? I, Wilbur
Hubbard, will have to work on the experience factor. Knowing the Rules
letter for letter and applying them to all the various different
circumstances are two different things.

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Dave" wrote in message
...

How many more years and how many thousand miles do you figure it will
take
you to figure out those lights?

Probably about the same number of years it took you to pass the bar
exams. At least eight more. Bwahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahaha!

Wilbur Hubbard

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Sorry Willy, but if you put a time table to knowing all the possibilities
within the Rules, you'll continue to get caught making errors.
I've got a lot more years than you'll ever have and I'm still learning
and finding a need to review/rethink the wording and possible
circumstances involved.




"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in news:46c4f613
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"Dave" wrote in message
...

How many more years and how many thousand miles do you figure it will
take
you to figure out those lights?

Probably about the same number of years it took you to pass the bar
exams. At least eight more. Bwahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahaha!

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:13:56 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Probably about the same number of years it took you to pass the bar
exams. At least eight more. Bwahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahaha!

Ah. So the answer is never. (I didn't have to take the bar exam.)

Then you must have lied about being a lawyer.

Wilbur Hubbard

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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
.70...

Sorry Willy, but if you put a time table to knowing all the
possibilities
within the Rules, you'll continue to get caught making errors.
I've got a lot more years than you'll ever have and I'm still learning
and finding a need to review/rethink the wording and possible
circumstances involved.


It depends of one's perspective. I think it's much easier for a
sailboater to learn the rules as they apply to him than a powerboater to
learn the rules as they apply to him.

The powerboat, being the give-way boat in most situations between the
two, must have a better working knowledge of all the ways he can screw
up while the sailboater, in most cases, just needs to stand-on until it
becomes obvious the power boater isn't doing what he's supposed to be
doing.

In other words, you as a power boater have more to learn; more
situations where you can be at fault so you'd best be aware of every
contingency. Your being more burdened puts more burden of knowing the
rules in every detail on you. Agree?

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:08:53 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Probably about the same number of years it took you to pass the bar
exams. At least eight more. Bwahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahaha!

Ah. So the answer is never. (I didn't have to take the bar exam.)

Then you must have lied about being a lawyer.

How little you know.

I know you can't be a lawyer with passing the bar exam. Unless you're
one of those bogus slip-and-fall lawyers, that is.

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:51:59 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

I know you can't be a lawyer with passing the bar exam. Unless you're
one of those bogus slip-and-fall lawyers, that is.

As usual, you're wrong.

I Googled it to be sure and it said one must pass the bar to get a law
license. (i.e. be a lawyer).

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Dave" wrote in message
...

Better Google a bit more, then.

http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos053.htm

"Law school graduates receive the degree of juris doctor (J.D.) as the
first professional degree. Advanced law degrees may be desirable for
those planning to specialize, research, or teach. Some law students
pursue joint degree programs, which usually require an additional
semester or year of study. Joint degree programs are offered in a number
of areas, including law and business administration or public
administration."

You're a J.D. Technically a doctor of law and not a lawyer. The
definition of a lawyer is this:

law•yer \"lÕ-y€r\ n : one who conducts lawsuits for clients or advises
as to legal rights and obligations in other matters — law•yer•ly adj

"To practice law in the courts of any State or other jurisdiction, a
person must be licensed, or admitted to its bar, under rules established
by the jurisdiction’s highest court." -- from the same link above.

So, by definition, unless you have passed a bar exam you are NOT a
lawyer. Try to find a flaw in my logic. I bet you are unable to do so.

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:51:23 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

So, by definition, unless you have passed a bar exam you are NOT a
lawyer. Try to find a flaw in my logic. I bet you are unable to do so.

"The life of the law is not logic. It is experience."

Holmes, Oliver, The Common Law

Simple. I have a certificate from the Appellate Division saying I'm
admitted
to practice law. I have been admitted to the practice of law. I did
not have
to take a bar exam in any state to get that certificate or to be
admitted to
practice.

Apparently your Googling was not sufficiently thorough.

I never thought to Google "good old boys network." Doesn't it make you
feel inadequate knowing you had to get special discompensation? Do real
lawyers respect you?

Wilbur Hubbard