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traps in waterways
I respectfully disagree,
if you move a trap the fisherman may not be able to find it- in a nutshell you have stolen the trap and are a thief ! SAILORP wrote: It is absolutely not a felony to move a trap out of a navigable waterway. However, you may need a license to keep the lobsters. ------------------------------------------- Sorry Pete-- pulling traps as you describe is a Felony -- viewed the same as stealing money directly from someone bank account ! SAILORP wrote: It is illegal to place lobster traps in marked channels, canals and navigable waterways. Feel free to to pull such the traps and take the lobsters for yourself if some idiot has placed a trap where you're in jeopardy of a prop wrap!. |
traps in waterways
so if your wrap trap, and you have to cut the line off, do you
a: break open the trap so the annimals do not die or B:Eat the crabs of lobsters Or C. Cut the trap and let it catch and kill Whadya think? What would you do? |
traps in waterways
so if your wrap trap, and you have to cut the line off, do you
a: break open the trap so the annimals do not die or B:Eat the crabs of lobsters Or C. Cut the trap and let it catch and kill Whadya think? What would you do? |
traps in waterways
If I have both parts I tie them together and put the trap as close to where I
caught it. In Maine, most of the traps I've caught have two floats, and I've caught them between the floats. "Florida Keyz" wrote in message ... so if your wrap trap, and you have to cut the line off, do you a: break open the trap so the annimals do not die or B:Eat the crabs of lobsters Or C. Cut the trap and let it catch and kill Whadya think? What would you do? |
traps in waterways
If I have both parts I tie them together and put the trap as close to where I
caught it. In Maine, most of the traps I've caught have two floats, and I've caught them between the floats. "Florida Keyz" wrote in message ... so if your wrap trap, and you have to cut the line off, do you a: break open the trap so the annimals do not die or B:Eat the crabs of lobsters Or C. Cut the trap and let it catch and kill Whadya think? What would you do? |
traps in waterways
I missed the beginning of this ... did you change the subject?
Why would someone think its illegal to put a trap in a channel? Is this one of those "it makes sense to me" laws? Here in New England moving someone's Lobsta Trap would qualify for a Darwin Award! "Roy G. Biv" wrote in message om... I respectfully disagree, if you move a trap the fisherman may not be able to find it- in a nutshell you have stolen the trap and are a thief ! SAILORP wrote: It is absolutely not a felony to move a trap out of a navigable waterway. However, you may need a license to keep the lobsters. ------------------------------------------- Sorry Pete-- pulling traps as you describe is a Felony -- viewed the same as stealing money directly from someone bank account ! SAILORP wrote: It is illegal to place lobster traps in marked channels, canals and navigable waterways. Feel free to to pull such the traps and take the lobsters for yourself if some idiot has placed a trap where you're in jeopardy of a prop wrap!. |
traps in waterways
I missed the beginning of this ... did you change the subject?
Why would someone think its illegal to put a trap in a channel? Is this one of those "it makes sense to me" laws? Here in New England moving someone's Lobsta Trap would qualify for a Darwin Award! "Roy G. Biv" wrote in message om... I respectfully disagree, if you move a trap the fisherman may not be able to find it- in a nutshell you have stolen the trap and are a thief ! SAILORP wrote: It is absolutely not a felony to move a trap out of a navigable waterway. However, you may need a license to keep the lobsters. ------------------------------------------- Sorry Pete-- pulling traps as you describe is a Felony -- viewed the same as stealing money directly from someone bank account ! SAILORP wrote: It is illegal to place lobster traps in marked channels, canals and navigable waterways. Feel free to to pull such the traps and take the lobsters for yourself if some idiot has placed a trap where you're in jeopardy of a prop wrap!. |
I like your name, Roy ...
Maybe we can get together!
"Roy G. Biv" wrote in message om... I respectfully disagree, if you move a trap the fisherman may not be able to find it- in a nutshell you have stolen the trap and are a thief ! SAILORP wrote: It is absolutely not a felony to move a trap out of a navigable waterway. However, you may need a license to keep the lobsters. ------------------------------------------- Sorry Pete-- pulling traps as you describe is a Felony -- viewed the same as stealing money directly from someone bank account ! SAILORP wrote: It is illegal to place lobster traps in marked channels, canals and navigable waterways. Feel free to to pull such the traps and take the lobsters for yourself if some idiot has placed a trap where you're in jeopardy of a prop wrap!. |
I like your name, Roy ...
Maybe we can get together!
"Roy G. Biv" wrote in message om... I respectfully disagree, if you move a trap the fisherman may not be able to find it- in a nutshell you have stolen the trap and are a thief ! SAILORP wrote: It is absolutely not a felony to move a trap out of a navigable waterway. However, you may need a license to keep the lobsters. ------------------------------------------- Sorry Pete-- pulling traps as you describe is a Felony -- viewed the same as stealing money directly from someone bank account ! SAILORP wrote: It is illegal to place lobster traps in marked channels, canals and navigable waterways. Feel free to to pull such the traps and take the lobsters for yourself if some idiot has placed a trap where you're in jeopardy of a prop wrap!. |
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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message...
I missed the beginning of this ... did you change the subject? I introduced this as a new thread to RBC (from a E-mail list) Why would someone think its illegal to put a trap in a channel? I don't know ! Is this one of those "it makes sense to me" laws? I posted the comments here to prompt discussion among this geographically diverse group to see if anyone agreed with SailorP, I thought there might be a local/regional (freshwater or rivers??) perspective to SailorP's comments with which I am not familiar . . . Here in New England moving someone's Lobsta Trap would qualify for a Darwin Award! Here in the Keys too! "Roy G. Biv" wrote in message om... I respectfully disagree, if you move a trap the fisherman may not be able to find it- in a nutshell you have stolen the trap and are a thief ! SAILORP wrote: It is absolutely not a felony to move a trap out of a navigable waterway. However, you may need a license to keep the lobsters. ------------------------------------------- Sorry Pete-- pulling traps as you describe is a Felony -- viewed the same as stealing money directly from someone bank account ! SAILORP wrote: It is illegal to place lobster traps in marked channels, canals and navigable waterways. Feel free to to pull such the traps and take the lobsters for yourself if some idiot has placed a trap where you're in jeopardy of a prop wrap!. |
traps in waterways
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message...
I missed the beginning of this ... did you change the subject? I introduced this as a new thread to RBC (from a E-mail list) Why would someone think its illegal to put a trap in a channel? I don't know ! Is this one of those "it makes sense to me" laws? I posted the comments here to prompt discussion among this geographically diverse group to see if anyone agreed with SailorP, I thought there might be a local/regional (freshwater or rivers??) perspective to SailorP's comments with which I am not familiar . . . Here in New England moving someone's Lobsta Trap would qualify for a Darwin Award! Here in the Keys too! "Roy G. Biv" wrote in message om... I respectfully disagree, if you move a trap the fisherman may not be able to find it- in a nutshell you have stolen the trap and are a thief ! SAILORP wrote: It is absolutely not a felony to move a trap out of a navigable waterway. However, you may need a license to keep the lobsters. ------------------------------------------- Sorry Pete-- pulling traps as you describe is a Felony -- viewed the same as stealing money directly from someone bank account ! SAILORP wrote: It is illegal to place lobster traps in marked channels, canals and navigable waterways. Feel free to to pull such the traps and take the lobsters for yourself if some idiot has placed a trap where you're in jeopardy of a prop wrap!. |
traps in waterways
(Florida Keyz) wrote in message news:...
so if your wrap trap, and you have to cut the line off, do you a: break open the trap so the annimals do not die Lobsters CAN and DO climb out the way they got in! , they stay in the traps because they like the shelter when the bait runs out they can move on... or B:Eat the crabs of lobsters yuk Or C. Cut the trap and let it catch and kill legal traps have biodegrable panels Whadya think? What would you do? learn more about lobster ! http://monroe.ifas.ufl.edu/lobster_conference.htm |
traps in waterways
It's always expensive to run over a trap. I put a line cutter on my shaft so
hopefully it'll never happen to me. Has worked once... found a little piece of PP line around the shaft, obviously cut free from something else. In Texas we have a two week moratorium once a year to get rid of abandoned traps. The first week only law enforcement and authorized people can remove abandoned traps. The second week anyone can get them out of the water. They even have stations set up all over to dispose of them. Sure is nice... we remove thousands yearly. "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... I missed the beginning of this ... did you change the subject? Why would someone think its illegal to put a trap in a channel? Is this one of those "it makes sense to me" laws? Here in New England moving someone's Lobsta Trap would qualify for a Darwin Award! "Roy G. Biv" wrote in message om... I respectfully disagree, if you move a trap the fisherman may not be able to find it- in a nutshell you have stolen the trap and are a thief ! SAILORP wrote: It is absolutely not a felony to move a trap out of a navigable waterway. However, you may need a license to keep the lobsters. ------------------------------------------- Sorry Pete-- pulling traps as you describe is a Felony -- viewed the same as stealing money directly from someone bank account ! SAILORP wrote: It is illegal to place lobster traps in marked channels, canals and navigable waterways. Feel free to to pull such the traps and take the lobsters for yourself if some idiot has placed a trap where you're in jeopardy of a prop wrap!. |
traps in waterways
It's always expensive to run over a trap. I put a line cutter on my shaft so
hopefully it'll never happen to me. Has worked once... found a little piece of PP line around the shaft, obviously cut free from something else. In Texas we have a two week moratorium once a year to get rid of abandoned traps. The first week only law enforcement and authorized people can remove abandoned traps. The second week anyone can get them out of the water. They even have stations set up all over to dispose of them. Sure is nice... we remove thousands yearly. "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... I missed the beginning of this ... did you change the subject? Why would someone think its illegal to put a trap in a channel? Is this one of those "it makes sense to me" laws? Here in New England moving someone's Lobsta Trap would qualify for a Darwin Award! "Roy G. Biv" wrote in message om... I respectfully disagree, if you move a trap the fisherman may not be able to find it- in a nutshell you have stolen the trap and are a thief ! SAILORP wrote: It is absolutely not a felony to move a trap out of a navigable waterway. However, you may need a license to keep the lobsters. ------------------------------------------- Sorry Pete-- pulling traps as you describe is a Felony -- viewed the same as stealing money directly from someone bank account ! SAILORP wrote: It is illegal to place lobster traps in marked channels, canals and navigable waterways. Feel free to to pull such the traps and take the lobsters for yourself if some idiot has placed a trap where you're in jeopardy of a prop wrap!. |
traps in waterways
Now that that is cleared up, I'll flip sides! While I've generally been a
strong supporter of the Down East fishing communities, in recent years the number of lobster pots has increased dramatically. I've heard people being frustrated by traps in the Chesapeake, where you hardly ever see two within 100 feet; in some parts of Maine (Stonington and Tenants Harbors stand out) there are fields that have one every 10 feet. One's sympathies start to diminish when you're trying to maneuver through that. Remember that Down East pots have a toggle - a second float connected to the first with a 20 foot line that lurks below the surface, usually down current from the pot. Fortunately my catamaran can be powered on one engine - its impossible to survive such field with both engines running. The other issue I have is with pots in the inner areas of commercial harbors or marinas. In the old days, when Boston Harbor has heavily polluted I used to watch local lobster boats pull up to the dock at Bay State Lobster. However, if you went in the front door, you were told that all the lobster were from Maine! And I can't for the life of me fathom why someone would put a trap in a marina fairway! -jeff "Roy G. Biv" wrote in message om... "Jeff Morris" wrote in message... I missed the beginning of this ... did you change the subject? I introduced this as a new thread to RBC (from a E-mail list) Why would someone think its illegal to put a trap in a channel? I don't know ! Is this one of those "it makes sense to me" laws? I posted the comments here to prompt discussion among this geographically diverse group to see if anyone agreed with SailorP, I thought there might be a local/regional (freshwater or rivers??) perspective to SailorP's comments with which I am not familiar . . . Here in New England moving someone's Lobsta Trap would qualify for a Darwin Award! Here in the Keys too! "Roy G. Biv" wrote in message om... I respectfully disagree, if you move a trap the fisherman may not be able to find it- in a nutshell you have stolen the trap and are a thief ! SAILORP wrote: It is absolutely not a felony to move a trap out of a navigable waterway. However, you may need a license to keep the lobsters. ------------------------------------------- Sorry Pete-- pulling traps as you describe is a Felony -- viewed the same as stealing money directly from someone bank account ! SAILORP wrote: It is illegal to place lobster traps in marked channels, canals and navigable waterways. Feel free to to pull such the traps and take the lobsters for yourself if some idiot has placed a trap where you're in jeopardy of a prop wrap!. |
traps in waterways
Now that that is cleared up, I'll flip sides! While I've generally been a
strong supporter of the Down East fishing communities, in recent years the number of lobster pots has increased dramatically. I've heard people being frustrated by traps in the Chesapeake, where you hardly ever see two within 100 feet; in some parts of Maine (Stonington and Tenants Harbors stand out) there are fields that have one every 10 feet. One's sympathies start to diminish when you're trying to maneuver through that. Remember that Down East pots have a toggle - a second float connected to the first with a 20 foot line that lurks below the surface, usually down current from the pot. Fortunately my catamaran can be powered on one engine - its impossible to survive such field with both engines running. The other issue I have is with pots in the inner areas of commercial harbors or marinas. In the old days, when Boston Harbor has heavily polluted I used to watch local lobster boats pull up to the dock at Bay State Lobster. However, if you went in the front door, you were told that all the lobster were from Maine! And I can't for the life of me fathom why someone would put a trap in a marina fairway! -jeff "Roy G. Biv" wrote in message om... "Jeff Morris" wrote in message... I missed the beginning of this ... did you change the subject? I introduced this as a new thread to RBC (from a E-mail list) Why would someone think its illegal to put a trap in a channel? I don't know ! Is this one of those "it makes sense to me" laws? I posted the comments here to prompt discussion among this geographically diverse group to see if anyone agreed with SailorP, I thought there might be a local/regional (freshwater or rivers??) perspective to SailorP's comments with which I am not familiar . . . Here in New England moving someone's Lobsta Trap would qualify for a Darwin Award! Here in the Keys too! "Roy G. Biv" wrote in message om... I respectfully disagree, if you move a trap the fisherman may not be able to find it- in a nutshell you have stolen the trap and are a thief ! SAILORP wrote: It is absolutely not a felony to move a trap out of a navigable waterway. However, you may need a license to keep the lobsters. ------------------------------------------- Sorry Pete-- pulling traps as you describe is a Felony -- viewed the same as stealing money directly from someone bank account ! SAILORP wrote: It is illegal to place lobster traps in marked channels, canals and navigable waterways. Feel free to to pull such the traps and take the lobsters for yourself if some idiot has placed a trap where you're in jeopardy of a prop wrap!. |
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, when Boston Harbor has heavily polluted I used to watch local lobster boats
pull up to the dock at Bay State Lobster. However, if you went in the front door, you were told that all the lobster were from Maine! Boston Harbor and Massachusetts Bay are part of the Gulf of Maine! Many people in Massachusetts do not realize that Massachusetts Bay is a part of the Gulf of Maine, so when they hear fishermen, fisheries management people, or scientists talking about the Gulf of Maine, they think it has nothingto do with them. Wrong! So in effect, the lobsters caught in Boston are from Maine; the Gulf of Maine! "Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou every Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to 95.9FM. |
traps in waterways
, when Boston Harbor has heavily polluted I used to watch local lobster boats
pull up to the dock at Bay State Lobster. However, if you went in the front door, you were told that all the lobster were from Maine! Boston Harbor and Massachusetts Bay are part of the Gulf of Maine! Many people in Massachusetts do not realize that Massachusetts Bay is a part of the Gulf of Maine, so when they hear fishermen, fisheries management people, or scientists talking about the Gulf of Maine, they think it has nothingto do with them. Wrong! So in effect, the lobsters caught in Boston are from Maine; the Gulf of Maine! "Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou every Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to 95.9FM. |
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:38:17 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
wrote: Now that that is cleared up, I'll flip sides! While I've generally been a strong supporter of the Down East fishing communities, in recent years the number of lobster pots has increased dramatically. I've heard people being frustrated by traps in the Chesapeake, where you hardly ever see two within 100 feet; in some parts of Maine (Stonington and Tenants Harbors stand out) there are fields that have one every 10 feet. One's sympathies start to diminish when you're trying to maneuver through that. Remember that Down East pots have a toggle - a second float connected to the first with a 20 foot line that lurks below the surface, usually down current from the pot. Fortunately my catamaran can be powered on one engine - its impossible to survive such field with both engines running. The other issue I have is with pots in the inner areas of commercial harbors or marinas. In the old days, when Boston Harbor has heavily polluted I used to watch local lobster boats pull up to the dock at Bay State Lobster. However, if you went in the front door, you were told that all the lobster were from Maine! And I can't for the life of me fathom why someone would put a trap in a marina fairway! I have cruised the Maine coast since the late 1970s, and have gone into Tenants and Stonington on many occasions. I haven't noticed any vast increase in trap density. The last time I snagged a potwarp was in 1981, on a chartered boat with a non-folding prop. Indeed, all three of my snags were with that same boat. Never a problem since. When the tide is flowing hard enough to pull a toggle under water, it is very easy to tell which side to pass the potbuoy on. Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a "In this house we _obey_ the laws of thermodynamics." --Homer Simpson |
traps in waterways
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 08:38:17 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
wrote: Now that that is cleared up, I'll flip sides! While I've generally been a strong supporter of the Down East fishing communities, in recent years the number of lobster pots has increased dramatically. I've heard people being frustrated by traps in the Chesapeake, where you hardly ever see two within 100 feet; in some parts of Maine (Stonington and Tenants Harbors stand out) there are fields that have one every 10 feet. One's sympathies start to diminish when you're trying to maneuver through that. Remember that Down East pots have a toggle - a second float connected to the first with a 20 foot line that lurks below the surface, usually down current from the pot. Fortunately my catamaran can be powered on one engine - its impossible to survive such field with both engines running. The other issue I have is with pots in the inner areas of commercial harbors or marinas. In the old days, when Boston Harbor has heavily polluted I used to watch local lobster boats pull up to the dock at Bay State Lobster. However, if you went in the front door, you were told that all the lobster were from Maine! And I can't for the life of me fathom why someone would put a trap in a marina fairway! I have cruised the Maine coast since the late 1970s, and have gone into Tenants and Stonington on many occasions. I haven't noticed any vast increase in trap density. The last time I snagged a potwarp was in 1981, on a chartered boat with a non-folding prop. Indeed, all three of my snags were with that same boat. Never a problem since. When the tide is flowing hard enough to pull a toggle under water, it is very easy to tell which side to pass the potbuoy on. Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a "In this house we _obey_ the laws of thermodynamics." --Homer Simpson |
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"Rodney Myrvaagnes" wrote in message I have cruised
the Maine coast since the late 1970s, and have gone into Tenants and Stonington on many occasions. I haven't noticed any vast increase in trap density. The last time I snagged a potwarp was in 1981, on a chartered boat with a non-folding prop. Indeed, all three of my snags were with that same boat. Never a problem since. That's not what the State of Maine says. Lobster traps have tripled in the last 35 years. I've only gone Down East a few times since our daughter was born (we go to the Vineyard more now) but to my eyes they've increased a lot. And the stats say the number of traps has increased 50% since 1990. http://www.maine.gov/dmr/rm/lobster/lobdata.htm Perhaps Tenants hasn't got worse - I don't think its physically possible to get worse since you can almost walk across on the pots. Stonington harbor itself isn't too bad, but there are areas in and around Merchant's Row that have become saturated. |
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"Rodney Myrvaagnes" wrote in message I have cruised
the Maine coast since the late 1970s, and have gone into Tenants and Stonington on many occasions. I haven't noticed any vast increase in trap density. The last time I snagged a potwarp was in 1981, on a chartered boat with a non-folding prop. Indeed, all three of my snags were with that same boat. Never a problem since. That's not what the State of Maine says. Lobster traps have tripled in the last 35 years. I've only gone Down East a few times since our daughter was born (we go to the Vineyard more now) but to my eyes they've increased a lot. And the stats say the number of traps has increased 50% since 1990. http://www.maine.gov/dmr/rm/lobster/lobdata.htm Perhaps Tenants hasn't got worse - I don't think its physically possible to get worse since you can almost walk across on the pots. Stonington harbor itself isn't too bad, but there are areas in and around Merchant's Row that have become saturated. |
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:51:23 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
wrote: "Rodney Myrvaagnes" wrote in message I have cruised the Maine coast since the late 1970s, and have gone into Tenants and Stonington on many occasions. I haven't noticed any vast increase in trap density. The last time I snagged a potwarp was in 1981, on a chartered boat with a non-folding prop. Indeed, all three of my snags were with that same boat. Never a problem since. That's not what the State of Maine says. Lobster traps have tripled in the last 35 years. I've only gone Down East a few times since our daughter was born (we go to the Vineyard more now) but to my eyes they've increased a lot. And the stats say the number of traps has increased 50% since 1990. http://www.maine.gov/dmr/rm/lobster/lobdata.htm Perhaps Tenants hasn't got worse - I don't think its physically possible to get worse since you can almost walk across on the pots. Stonington harbor itself isn't too bad, but there are areas in and around Merchant's Row that have become saturated. I was replying specifically about Tenants and Stonington. It is true that it would be hard to put more in there. A lot of pots are placed in quite deep water these days. I suspect that is a lot of the state increase. The increase is probably more noticeable if you skip several years. I have gone every year except when a hurricane stopped me on Labor Day weekend, ca 1995? Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a "In this house we _obey_ the laws of thermodynamics." --Homer Simpson |
traps in waterways
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 14:51:23 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
wrote: "Rodney Myrvaagnes" wrote in message I have cruised the Maine coast since the late 1970s, and have gone into Tenants and Stonington on many occasions. I haven't noticed any vast increase in trap density. The last time I snagged a potwarp was in 1981, on a chartered boat with a non-folding prop. Indeed, all three of my snags were with that same boat. Never a problem since. That's not what the State of Maine says. Lobster traps have tripled in the last 35 years. I've only gone Down East a few times since our daughter was born (we go to the Vineyard more now) but to my eyes they've increased a lot. And the stats say the number of traps has increased 50% since 1990. http://www.maine.gov/dmr/rm/lobster/lobdata.htm Perhaps Tenants hasn't got worse - I don't think its physically possible to get worse since you can almost walk across on the pots. Stonington harbor itself isn't too bad, but there are areas in and around Merchant's Row that have become saturated. I was replying specifically about Tenants and Stonington. It is true that it would be hard to put more in there. A lot of pots are placed in quite deep water these days. I suspect that is a lot of the state increase. The increase is probably more noticeable if you skip several years. I have gone every year except when a hurricane stopped me on Labor Day weekend, ca 1995? Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a "In this house we _obey_ the laws of thermodynamics." --Homer Simpson |
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I would think it's not smart to put your traps in the channel where they will
more than likley get hit and lost. IMHO Sterling |
traps in waterways
I would think it's not smart to put your traps in the channel where they will
more than likley get hit and lost. IMHO Sterling |
traps in waterways
Jeff Morris wrote:
Now that that is cleared up, I'll flip sides! While I've generally been a strong supporter of the Down East fishing communities, in recent years the number of lobster pots has increased dramatically. I've heard people being frustrated by traps in the Chesapeake, where you hardly ever see two within 100 feet; You haven't been in the Northern Chesapeake Bay. There are some fields (Middle River, Sassafras, and Bush River) where I often brush traps away on both sides of our about 6' beam (at the waterline). It's highly seasonal, though. Between one weekend and the next, hundreds of traps can be set or pulled. 100' between traps is a real luxury and pretty much rates as open water. in some parts of Maine (Stonington and Tenants Harbors stand out) there are fields that have one every 10 feet. One's sympathies start to diminish when you're trying to maneuver through that. Remember that Down East pots have a toggle - a second float connected to the first with a 20 foot line that lurks below the surface, usually down current from the pot. Fortunately my catamaran can be powered on one engine - its impossible to survive such field with both engines running. The other issue I have is with pots in the inner areas of commercial harbors or marinas. Thankfully, there's some sort of law on the Chesapeake that eliminates most floats once into an anchorage and many creeks/rivers. It could be a variant on Darwin: With the number of boats on the upper Bay, a float in a marina approach wouldn't last long. As it is, we move 2-3 crab traps a quarter mile or so elsewhere each season. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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Jeff Morris wrote:
Now that that is cleared up, I'll flip sides! While I've generally been a strong supporter of the Down East fishing communities, in recent years the number of lobster pots has increased dramatically. I've heard people being frustrated by traps in the Chesapeake, where you hardly ever see two within 100 feet; You haven't been in the Northern Chesapeake Bay. There are some fields (Middle River, Sassafras, and Bush River) where I often brush traps away on both sides of our about 6' beam (at the waterline). It's highly seasonal, though. Between one weekend and the next, hundreds of traps can be set or pulled. 100' between traps is a real luxury and pretty much rates as open water. in some parts of Maine (Stonington and Tenants Harbors stand out) there are fields that have one every 10 feet. One's sympathies start to diminish when you're trying to maneuver through that. Remember that Down East pots have a toggle - a second float connected to the first with a 20 foot line that lurks below the surface, usually down current from the pot. Fortunately my catamaran can be powered on one engine - its impossible to survive such field with both engines running. The other issue I have is with pots in the inner areas of commercial harbors or marinas. Thankfully, there's some sort of law on the Chesapeake that eliminates most floats once into an anchorage and many creeks/rivers. It could be a variant on Darwin: With the number of boats on the upper Bay, a float in a marina approach wouldn't last long. As it is, we move 2-3 crab traps a quarter mile or so elsewhere each season. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
traps in waterways
I've been through there a few times but perhaps not in season. It don't
remember any pots in the Sassafras (week after Labor Day). Do they come out in the Fall? "Jere Lull" wrote in message ... Jeff Morris wrote: Now that that is cleared up, I'll flip sides! While I've generally been a strong supporter of the Down East fishing communities, in recent years the number of lobster pots has increased dramatically. I've heard people being frustrated by traps in the Chesapeake, where you hardly ever see two within 100 feet; You haven't been in the Northern Chesapeake Bay. There are some fields (Middle River, Sassafras, and Bush River) where I often brush traps away on both sides of our about 6' beam (at the waterline). It's highly seasonal, though. Between one weekend and the next, hundreds of traps can be set or pulled. 100' between traps is a real luxury and pretty much rates as open water. in some parts of Maine (Stonington and Tenants Harbors stand out) there are fields that have one every 10 feet. One's sympathies start to diminish when you're trying to maneuver through that. Remember that Down East pots have a toggle - a second float connected to the first with a 20 foot line that lurks below the surface, usually down current from the pot. Fortunately my catamaran can be powered on one engine - its impossible to survive such field with both engines running. The other issue I have is with pots in the inner areas of commercial harbors or marinas. Thankfully, there's some sort of law on the Chesapeake that eliminates most floats once into an anchorage and many creeks/rivers. It could be a variant on Darwin: With the number of boats on the upper Bay, a float in a marina approach wouldn't last long. As it is, we move 2-3 crab traps a quarter mile or so elsewhere each season. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
traps in waterways
I've been through there a few times but perhaps not in season. It don't
remember any pots in the Sassafras (week after Labor Day). Do they come out in the Fall? "Jere Lull" wrote in message ... Jeff Morris wrote: Now that that is cleared up, I'll flip sides! While I've generally been a strong supporter of the Down East fishing communities, in recent years the number of lobster pots has increased dramatically. I've heard people being frustrated by traps in the Chesapeake, where you hardly ever see two within 100 feet; You haven't been in the Northern Chesapeake Bay. There are some fields (Middle River, Sassafras, and Bush River) where I often brush traps away on both sides of our about 6' beam (at the waterline). It's highly seasonal, though. Between one weekend and the next, hundreds of traps can be set or pulled. 100' between traps is a real luxury and pretty much rates as open water. in some parts of Maine (Stonington and Tenants Harbors stand out) there are fields that have one every 10 feet. One's sympathies start to diminish when you're trying to maneuver through that. Remember that Down East pots have a toggle - a second float connected to the first with a 20 foot line that lurks below the surface, usually down current from the pot. Fortunately my catamaran can be powered on one engine - its impossible to survive such field with both engines running. The other issue I have is with pots in the inner areas of commercial harbors or marinas. Thankfully, there's some sort of law on the Chesapeake that eliminates most floats once into an anchorage and many creeks/rivers. It could be a variant on Darwin: With the number of boats on the upper Bay, a float in a marina approach wouldn't last long. As it is, we move 2-3 crab traps a quarter mile or so elsewhere each season. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
traps in waterways
Jeff Morris wrote:
I've been through there a few times but perhaps not in season. It don't remember any pots in the Sassafras (week after Labor Day). Do they come out in the Fall? Labor Day weekend from the south was our bad time. Just in from Howell point, we ran into a field that I didn't feel safe running under power. The dotted red line between the official buoys was pretty much free, but the starting buoy is a bit further north than our path. Heck, we'd lived on the Sass for some years and we were darned if we'd run from buoy to buoy in such a safe area ;-) We can pass within yards of Howell point with sufficient depth, which put us a mile or so south of the line "between the buoys". If you're coming in from the north, I suspect you miss the field entirely. If you run the suggested path well away from Grove or Howell Points, you probably won't notice anything. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
traps in waterways
Jeff Morris wrote:
I've been through there a few times but perhaps not in season. It don't remember any pots in the Sassafras (week after Labor Day). Do they come out in the Fall? Labor Day weekend from the south was our bad time. Just in from Howell point, we ran into a field that I didn't feel safe running under power. The dotted red line between the official buoys was pretty much free, but the starting buoy is a bit further north than our path. Heck, we'd lived on the Sass for some years and we were darned if we'd run from buoy to buoy in such a safe area ;-) We can pass within yards of Howell point with sufficient depth, which put us a mile or so south of the line "between the buoys". If you're coming in from the north, I suspect you miss the field entirely. If you run the suggested path well away from Grove or Howell Points, you probably won't notice anything. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
traps in waterways
I've run across traps in NE, long lines in Fla., Gill nets in various
areas and traps on the West Coast. I've never heard of any of these people being held responsible for the haul out, replacement, and repairs to stern tubes, cutless bearings, etc. My opinion ..... If they are dumb enough to place their traps, etc. in areas of known channels and boating, ship traffic, then it's their problem if they lose them or suffer damage ...call it the price of doing business. When I am able to identify a trap, etc. that has damaged my shaft, prop, etc. because it's in a known channel, if I can possibly do it, I'd hit up the fisherman for his yearly profits, to pay for my damage .... it's a two way street. otn |
traps in waterways
I've run across traps in NE, long lines in Fla., Gill nets in various
areas and traps on the West Coast. I've never heard of any of these people being held responsible for the haul out, replacement, and repairs to stern tubes, cutless bearings, etc. My opinion ..... If they are dumb enough to place their traps, etc. in areas of known channels and boating, ship traffic, then it's their problem if they lose them or suffer damage ...call it the price of doing business. When I am able to identify a trap, etc. that has damaged my shaft, prop, etc. because it's in a known channel, if I can possibly do it, I'd hit up the fisherman for his yearly profits, to pay for my damage .... it's a two way street. otn |
traps in waterways - line cutters on prop?
I've seen a device that goes on the prop shaft to cut entangling lines. Do
they work? |
traps in waterways - line cutters on prop?
I've seen a device that goes on the prop shaft to cut entangling lines. Do
they work? |
traps in waterways
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Jere Lull wrote: Jeff Morris wrote: Now that that is cleared up, I'll flip sides! While I've generally been a strong supporter of the Down East fishing communities, in recent years the number of lobster pots has increased dramatically. I've heard people being frustrated by traps in the Chesapeake, where you hardly ever see two within 100 feet; You haven't been in the Northern Chesapeake Bay. There are some fields (Middle River, Sassafras, and Bush River) where I often brush traps away on both sides of our about 6' beam (at the waterline). It's highly seasonal, though. Between one weekend and the next, hundreds of traps can be set or pulled. 100' between traps is a real luxury and pretty much rates as open water. Also going in to Bodkin Creek and around Galesville. On the ICW, the crab pots act as a sort of extra channel markers, although I did see one out in the middle of the Rebecca Shoal (on the way to Ft. Jefferson in the Dry Tortugas) where the water is several hundred feet deep. in some parts of Maine (Stonington and Tenants Harbors stand out) there are fields that have one every 10 feet. One's sympathies start to diminish when you're trying to maneuver through that. Remember that Down East pots have a toggle - a second float connected to the first with a 20 foot line that lurks below the surface, usually down current from the pot. Fortunately my catamaran can be powered on one engine - its impossible to survive such field with both engines running. I've heard that here in the Keys (FL) there are some fishermen that put the pot floats just a foot or so below the surface and locate the pots with a GPS in order to keep people from stealing the crabs. If that isn't illegal, it ought to be although the person who told us that might have been making the story up. The other issue I have is with pots in the inner areas of commercial harbors or marinas. Thankfully, there's some sort of law on the Chesapeake that eliminates most floats once into an anchorage and many creeks/rivers. It could be a variant on Darwin: With the number of boats on the upper Bay, a float in We took a mooring earlier this week and there were crab pots interspersed among the moorings. Totally stupid if anyone used the moorings as it was almost impossible to approach the mooring without running over a pot. I'm not sure whether we snagged one or not - it was blowing about 25 knots and the boat is hard to handle under those circumstances. We've had a crab pot boat on the Posoquan River come along putting out pots and drop one right behind our anchored boat and then motor alongside our boat and drop one right in front of the boat over the anchor. We've also anchored off the upper Keys in Hawk Channel and when we got up in the morning the crab pot float was wrapped around our anchor chain. In all those cases we were able to get underway without harming the crab pot or float a marina approach wouldn't last long. As it is, we move 2-3 crab traps a quarter mile or so elsewhere each season. The charts sometimes have a 'free zone' where you are supposed to be able to get into the channel, and if you can find it, there's less of them there. One guide book says you don't usually find them in more than 30 feet of water, but that's not always true. grandma Rosalie S/V RosalieAnn, Leonardtown, MD CSY 44 WO #156 http://home.mindspring.com/~gmbeasley/id2.html |
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