"Len Krauss" wrote in message
...
He said "extended crusing in the Pacific" and wants to use a 25 year old
12-chan SSB with crystals. It's quite foolish to contemplate such
cruising
with an archaic, limited radio upon which one's life might depend. It's
prone to failure, and parts and repair services are next to impossible to
find. Extended crusing means the sensible mariner will want to tap into
weather nets, cruiser nets and the like -- all kinds of frequencies which
may not be known in advance for which crystals are unavailable. Advice:
Get
a modern SSB and be done with it. If money's the issue, work a few weeks
longer.

Although I agree with all other arguments, I think that a 25 year old radio
with it's discrete components is easier to repair than a modern one, stuffed
with microchips and fine-pitch surface mount components.

Meindert

In article ,
"Len Krauss" wrote:

He said "extended crusing in the Pacific" and wants to use a 25 year old
12-chan SSB with crystals. It's quite foolish to contemplate such cruising
with an archaic, limited radio upon which one's life might depend. It's
prone to failure, and parts and repair services are next to impossible to
find. Extended crusing means the sensible mariner will want to tap into
weather nets, cruiser nets and the like -- all kinds of frequencies which
may not be known in advance for which crystals are unavailable. Advice: Get
a modern SSB and be done with it. If money's the issue, work a few weeks
longer.

Who's Ken?

And just what did you contribute Chuck? Zip. Nada. It figures.
--

Sir, If you had a clue, you would be DANGERous. Those old channalized
Marine MF/HF Radio's are mostly built with discrete components. Much
easier to repair than the modern Surface Mounted components, of todays
radios. Furthermore Marine Techs have years of experience, with those
old radio's and the modern ones are basically "Factory Board Replacement"
if the factory still stocks the boards. Nothing wrong with a 12 Channel
channelized radio, for the simple reason, there are very few channels
that are for use by NONcommerical Maritime Users in the MF range, and
not that many more in the HF range. Most of these radios use A/B
channelization, which allows for two frequencies on each channel set.
This covers better than 50% of the available frequencies on each band.
The solidstate versions of these older radios are as trouble free as
any of the in-production radios of today. The Northern Radio Co.
571 is one such radio, and it is BUILT like the proverbial "Brick
****house". The PA in that radio is HUGE, and will output 100W
Carrier into ANY LOAD, forever.(Or untill the Batterys fail) Try
that with ANY modern Marine MF/HF SSB Radio? What you'll get first
is powerfoldback to 25W, due to the missmatched load, and if you
could get it up to 100W, the smoke would soon drive you out of the
cabin due to meltdown of the PA.

Bruce in alaska who actually installed a PILE of these over the
years.
--
add a 2 before @

"Len Krauss" wrote in message
...
He said "extended crusing in the Pacific" and wants to use a 25 year old
12-chan SSB with crystals. It's quite foolish to contemplate such
cruising
with an archaic, limited radio upon which one's life might depend. It's
prone to failure, and parts and repair services are next to impossible to
find. Extended crusing means the sensible mariner will want to tap into
weather nets, cruiser nets and the like -- all kinds of frequencies which
may not be known in advance for which crystals are unavailable. Advice:
Get
a modern SSB and be done with it. If money's the issue, work a few weeks
longer.

Although I agree with all other arguments, I think that a 25 year old radio
with it's discrete components is easier to repair than a modern one, stuffed
with microchips and fine-pitch surface mount components.

Meindert

In article ,
"Len Krauss" wrote:

He said "extended crusing in the Pacific" and wants to use a 25 year old
12-chan SSB with crystals. It's quite foolish to contemplate such cruising
with an archaic, limited radio upon which one's life might depend. It's
prone to failure, and parts and repair services are next to impossible to
find. Extended crusing means the sensible mariner will want to tap into
weather nets, cruiser nets and the like -- all kinds of frequencies which
may not be known in advance for which crystals are unavailable. Advice: Get
a modern SSB and be done with it. If money's the issue, work a few weeks
longer.

Who's Ken?

And just what did you contribute Chuck? Zip. Nada. It figures.
--

Sir, If you had a clue, you would be DANGERous. Those old channalized
Marine MF/HF Radio's are mostly built with discrete components. Much
easier to repair than the modern Surface Mounted components, of todays
radios. Furthermore Marine Techs have years of experience, with those
old radio's and the modern ones are basically "Factory Board Replacement"
if the factory still stocks the boards. Nothing wrong with a 12 Channel
channelized radio, for the simple reason, there are very few channels
that are for use by NONcommerical Maritime Users in the MF range, and
not that many more in the HF range. Most of these radios use A/B
channelization, which allows for two frequencies on each channel set.
This covers better than 50% of the available frequencies on each band.
The solidstate versions of these older radios are as trouble free as
any of the in-production radios of today. The Northern Radio Co.
571 is one such radio, and it is BUILT like the proverbial "Brick
****house". The PA in that radio is HUGE, and will output 100W
Carrier into ANY LOAD, forever.(Or untill the Batterys fail) Try
that with ANY modern Marine MF/HF SSB Radio? What you'll get first
is powerfoldback to 25W, due to the missmatched load, and if you
could get it up to 100W, the smoke would soon drive you out of the
cabin due to meltdown of the PA.

Bruce in alaska who actually installed a PILE of these over the
years.
--
add a 2 before @

He said "extended crusing in the Pacific" and wants to use a 25 year old
12-chan SSB with crystals. It's quite foolish to contemplate such cruising
with an archaic, limited radio upon which one's life might depend. It's
prone to failure, and parts and repair services are next to impossible to
find. Extended crusing means the sensible mariner will want to tap into
weather nets, cruiser nets and the like -- all kinds of frequencies which
may not be known in advance for which crystals are unavailable. Advice: Get
a modern SSB and be done with it. If money's the issue, work a few weeks
longer.

Who's Ken?

And just what did you contribute Chuck? Zip. Nada. It figures.
--
Eliminate "ns" for email address.
"Chuck Bollinger" wrote in message
news:izKAb.450586$HS4.3531094@attbi_s01...
Phill wrote:

Ps: what are you on about ken?

Doesn't matter, does it? People who put up messages like that don't need
actually to know anything to appear witty, informed, sophisticated. It's
an
example of the 'wink wink, nudge nudge' school in the best Python
tradition.
It's tricky in actual conversation, because if questioned the self-styled
wit
may not be able to escape, and it most often turns out that the person
can't
really contribute anything. But on a newsgroup one can be anonymous and
back
away at any time.

And no-one ever needs to know...

Phill wrote:

Ps: what are you on about ken?

Doesn't matter, does it? People who put up messages like that don't need
actually to know anything to appear witty, informed, sophisticated. It's an
example of the 'wink wink, nudge nudge' school in the best Python tradition.
It's tricky in actual conversation, because if questioned the self-styled wit
may not be able to escape, and it most often turns out that the person can't
really contribute anything. But on a newsgroup one can be anonymous and back
away at any time.

And no-one ever needs to know...

I guess its late 70's early 80's, I was going to put on the other
emergency frequency 2187 or something. I was going to try to get
wefax and email, or sattilite, but these things are not really thaT
IMPORTANT TO ME, a couple of channels to talk to ppl back in nz, and
anything else useful. It looks like a really good quality set with
little use. It dosen't have tubes its not that old

Ps: what are you on about ken?





On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:43:41 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

Twelve is kind of limiting. Do you plan on using the SSB to
receive weatherfax? An older radio probably won't do well
in the digital modes like Sailmail or Winlink. There is a pretty
good book with a silly name "Marine SSB for IdiYachts".
It has good coverage of the useful frequencies and what
they are used for. How old is this radio? Does it have tubes

Doug, k3qt
s/v Callista

"Phill" wrote in message
.. .
hi i recently purchased an old ssb radio, the freqencies are set by
crystals and it has the ability to have twelve channels, I have no
idea which are the channels i shoul install for extended cruising,
partcularly in the pacific.

It already has 2182

please help

phill

"Phill" wrote in message
...
hi i recently purchased an old ssb radio, the freqencies are set by
crystals and it has the ability to have twelve channels, I have no
idea which are the channels i shoul install for extended cruising,
partcularly in the pacific.

It already has 2182


try www.marine-radio.co.nz and buy the book New Zealand Marine Radio
Handbook

Thanks Mike


On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:11:59 +1300, "Mike" wrote:


"Phill" wrote in message
.. .
hi i recently purchased an old ssb radio, the freqencies are set by
crystals and it has the ability to have twelve channels, I have no
idea which are the channels i shoul install for extended cruising,
partcularly in the pacific.

It already has 2182


try www.marine-radio.co.nz and buy the book New Zealand Marine Radio
Handbook

Thanks Mike


On Sun, 7 Dec 2003 21:11:59 +1300, "Mike" wrote:


"Phill" wrote in message
.. .
hi i recently purchased an old ssb radio, the freqencies are set by
crystals and it has the ability to have twelve channels, I have no
idea which are the channels i shoul install for extended cruising,
partcularly in the pacific.

It already has 2182


try www.marine-radio.co.nz and buy the book New Zealand Marine Radio
Handbook