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Greg November 28th 03 01:27 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
I took my three youngest sons to see the movie a couple of weeks ago. We
really liked the movie, and we are all sailors. I think Gogarty is looking
for religion or something if he/she wants more depth? This was
entertainment. If he/she wants more depth, look to the real world.
Greg Luckett


"Vic Fraenckel" wrote in message
.. .
Read the books

Vic

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"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however

long
and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
- Winston [Leonard Spencer] Churchill (1874 - 1965)

Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
-Count Oxenstierna (ca 1620) to the young King Gustavus Adolphus

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| Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth at
| all.
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Greg November 28th 03 01:27 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
I took my three youngest sons to see the movie a couple of weeks ago. We
really liked the movie, and we are all sailors. I think Gogarty is looking
for religion or something if he/she wants more depth? This was
entertainment. If he/she wants more depth, look to the real world.
Greg Luckett


"Vic Fraenckel" wrote in message
.. .
Read the books

Vic

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"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however

long
and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
- Winston [Leonard Spencer] Churchill (1874 - 1965)

Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
-Count Oxenstierna (ca 1620) to the young King Gustavus Adolphus

"Gogarty" wrote in message
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| Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth at
| all.
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Gogarty November 28th 03 02:00 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth at
all.


Vic Fraenckel November 28th 03 02:43 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
Read the books

Vic

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Read the WIND

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long
and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
- Winston [Leonard Spencer] Churchill (1874 - 1965)

Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
-Count Oxenstierna (ca 1620) to the young King Gustavus Adolphus

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
| Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth at
| all.
|



Vic Fraenckel November 28th 03 02:43 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
Read the books

Vic

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__________________________________________________ ______

Victor Fraenckel - The Windman
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KC2GUI

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Read the WIND

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long
and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
- Winston [Leonard Spencer] Churchill (1874 - 1965)

Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
-Count Oxenstierna (ca 1620) to the young King Gustavus Adolphus

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
| Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth at
| all.
|



Gogarty November 28th 03 06:03 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
In article ,
says...


Read the books

I have. All of them. And all the spinoffs too.

Would have been a better picture if they had taken just one book and done it
in depth, much like the Harry Potter pix are being made.


Gogarty November 28th 03 06:03 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
In article ,
says...


Read the books

I have. All of them. And all the spinoffs too.

Would have been a better picture if they had taken just one book and done it
in depth, much like the Harry Potter pix are being made.


Doug Dotson November 28th 03 06:20 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
I liked M&C but have not read the books. M&C (the book)
started out so slow and booring I lost interest. Ever seen the
Hornblower movies? Very good.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


Read the books

I have. All of them. And all the spinoffs too.

Would have been a better picture if they had taken just one book and done

it
in depth, much like the Harry Potter pix are being made.




Doug Dotson November 28th 03 06:20 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
I liked M&C but have not read the books. M&C (the book)
started out so slow and booring I lost interest. Ever seen the
Hornblower movies? Very good.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


Read the books

I have. All of them. And all the spinoffs too.

Would have been a better picture if they had taken just one book and done

it
in depth, much like the Harry Potter pix are being made.




Vic Fraenckel November 28th 03 06:59 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
| Ever seen the Hornblower movies? Very good.

Movies Sucked!
Books GREAT!

Vic
--
__________________________________________________ ______

Victor Fraenckel - The Windman
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KC2GUI

Home of the WindReader Electronic Theodolite
Read the WIND

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long
and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
- Winston [Leonard Spencer] Churchill (1874 - 1965)

Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
-Count Oxenstierna (ca 1620) to the young King Gustavus Adolphus

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
| I liked M&C but have not read the books. M&C (the book)
| started out so slow and booring I lost interest. Ever seen the
| Hornblower movies? Very good.
|
| Doug
| s/v Callista
|
| "Gogarty" wrote in message
| ...
| In article ,
| says...
|
|
| Read the books
|
| I have. All of them. And all the spinoffs too.
|
| Would have been a better picture if they had taken just one book and
done
| it
| in depth, much like the Harry Potter pix are being made.
|
|
|



Vic Fraenckel November 28th 03 06:59 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
| Ever seen the Hornblower movies? Very good.

Movies Sucked!
Books GREAT!

Vic
--
__________________________________________________ ______

Victor Fraenckel - The Windman
vfraenc1 ATSIGN nycap DOT rr DOTcom
KC2GUI

Home of the WindReader Electronic Theodolite
Read the WIND

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long
and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
- Winston [Leonard Spencer] Churchill (1874 - 1965)

Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
-Count Oxenstierna (ca 1620) to the young King Gustavus Adolphus

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
| I liked M&C but have not read the books. M&C (the book)
| started out so slow and booring I lost interest. Ever seen the
| Hornblower movies? Very good.
|
| Doug
| s/v Callista
|
| "Gogarty" wrote in message
| ...
| In article ,
| says...
|
|
| Read the books
|
| I have. All of them. And all the spinoffs too.
|
| Would have been a better picture if they had taken just one book and
done
| it
| in depth, much like the Harry Potter pix are being made.
|
|
|



Leanne November 28th 03 08:40 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


Read the books

I have. All of them. And all the spinoffs too.

Would have been a better picture if they had taken just one

book and done it
in depth, much like the Harry Potter pix are being made.




Leanne November 28th 03 08:40 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...


Read the books

I have. All of them. And all the spinoffs too.

Would have been a better picture if they had taken just one

book and done it
in depth, much like the Harry Potter pix are being made.




Leanne November 28th 03 08:41 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
Read the books

I have. All of them. And all the spinoffs too.


Which are the spin offs as we have the 20 vol set.

Leanne
S/V Fundy



Leanne November 28th 03 08:41 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
Read the books

I have. All of them. And all the spinoffs too.


Which are the spin offs as we have the 20 vol set.

Leanne
S/V Fundy



Ken Heaton November 28th 03 09:00 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
I saw the movie Master and Commander and was disappointed. I started off
enjoying it but became annoyed with it before the end. I've recently
finished The Truelove (the 16th?) in the series and am enjoying them
immensely. I'll second the "lacked depth" review.

You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada

"Vic Fraenckel" wrote in message
.. .
| Ever seen the Hornblower movies? Very good.

Movies Sucked!
Books GREAT!

Vic
--
__________________________________________________ ______

Victor Fraenckel - The Windman
vfraenc1 ATSIGN nycap DOT rr DOTcom
KC2GUI

Home of the WindReader Electronic Theodolite
Read the WIND

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however

long
and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
- Winston [Leonard Spencer] Churchill (1874 - 1965)

Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
-Count Oxenstierna (ca 1620) to the young King Gustavus Adolphus

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
| I liked M&C but have not read the books. M&C (the book)
| started out so slow and booring I lost interest. Ever seen the
| Hornblower movies? Very good.
|
| Doug
| s/v Callista
|
| "Gogarty" wrote in message
| ...
| In article ,
| says...
|
|
| Read the books
|
| I have. All of them. And all the spinoffs too.
|
| Would have been a better picture if they had taken just one book and
done
| it
| in depth, much like the Harry Potter pix are being made.
|
|
|





Ken Heaton November 28th 03 09:00 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
I saw the movie Master and Commander and was disappointed. I started off
enjoying it but became annoyed with it before the end. I've recently
finished The Truelove (the 16th?) in the series and am enjoying them
immensely. I'll second the "lacked depth" review.

You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada

"Vic Fraenckel" wrote in message
.. .
| Ever seen the Hornblower movies? Very good.

Movies Sucked!
Books GREAT!

Vic
--
__________________________________________________ ______

Victor Fraenckel - The Windman
vfraenc1 ATSIGN nycap DOT rr DOTcom
KC2GUI

Home of the WindReader Electronic Theodolite
Read the WIND

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however

long
and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
- Winston [Leonard Spencer] Churchill (1874 - 1965)

Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
-Count Oxenstierna (ca 1620) to the young King Gustavus Adolphus

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
| I liked M&C but have not read the books. M&C (the book)
| started out so slow and booring I lost interest. Ever seen the
| Hornblower movies? Very good.
|
| Doug
| s/v Callista
|
| "Gogarty" wrote in message
| ...
| In article ,
| says...
|
|
| Read the books
|
| I have. All of them. And all the spinoffs too.
|
| Would have been a better picture if they had taken just one book and
done
| it
| in depth, much like the Harry Potter pix are being made.
|
|
|





DSK November 28th 03 10:56 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
Read the books


Gogarty wrote:
I have. All of them. And all the spinoffs too.


How about Dudley Pope and Alexander Kent?

With all the good sailing yarns out there to read, I just can't get excited
about Patrick O'Brian. I am looking forward to seeing the movie, but mostly just
to see the sailing scenes.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


DSK November 28th 03 10:56 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
Read the books


Gogarty wrote:
I have. All of them. And all the spinoffs too.


How about Dudley Pope and Alexander Kent?

With all the good sailing yarns out there to read, I just can't get excited
about Patrick O'Brian. I am looking forward to seeing the movie, but mostly just
to see the sailing scenes.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Ken Heaton November 28th 03 11:08 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
Alas, you may end up disappointed there. It seem to me they shot most of
the sailing scenes on days when there wasn't much wind. Most of the boat
speed seems to come from the engines. There is one storm scene though...
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Read the books


Gogarty wrote:
I have. All of them. And all the spinoffs too.


How about Dudley Pope and Alexander Kent?

With all the good sailing yarns out there to read, I just can't get

excited
about Patrick O'Brian. I am looking forward to seeing the movie, but

mostly just
to see the sailing scenes.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Ken Heaton November 28th 03 11:08 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
Alas, you may end up disappointed there. It seem to me they shot most of
the sailing scenes on days when there wasn't much wind. Most of the boat
speed seems to come from the engines. There is one storm scene though...
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Read the books


Gogarty wrote:
I have. All of them. And all the spinoffs too.


How about Dudley Pope and Alexander Kent?

With all the good sailing yarns out there to read, I just can't get

excited
about Patrick O'Brian. I am looking forward to seeing the movie, but

mostly just
to see the sailing scenes.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Chuck Bollinger November 29th 03 12:17 AM

Master and Commander --the movie
 


Gogarty wrote:

Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth at
all.

Yes, like another complex effort: "Dune". Frank Herbert, the author, complained
that the movie should have been titled "Scenes from Dune".

Parhaps the most distinguishing feature of the POB books is the slow pace.
Apparently POB was a fan of Louisa May Alcott with her detail, and it is said
that one of the volumes, in which the story is entirely (?) on land, is a
tribute to her. For that reason, it would seem impossible to accomplish the
feel of the books in a movie. And, really, try to think of the movie you would
produce from the real M&C, volume 1. By the time you got the music recital
where A meets M and challenges him, to the promotion, re-meeting and dinner,
fitting the Sophie - there's an hour gone just doing that properly, and they
haven't even got underway.

The diametrical opposite of POB's books are Patrick Cornwell, "Sharp" series, in
which this incredible (literally) ubermench of a junior officer winds up
hobnobbing with Nelson and all sorts of stuff. I couldn't stand it - too MTV.

I do hope that there will be future movies and that they will serve the
population of loyal readers by developing characters and such. Nevertheless, as
a production, it certainly conveyed the confusion of a naval battle, boarding,
and such. And the image of that guy sitting on the 'seat of ease' as the camera
panned down the port side in the snow - that's going to stay with me for a long
time.



Chuck Bollinger November 29th 03 12:17 AM

Master and Commander --the movie
 


Gogarty wrote:

Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth at
all.

Yes, like another complex effort: "Dune". Frank Herbert, the author, complained
that the movie should have been titled "Scenes from Dune".

Parhaps the most distinguishing feature of the POB books is the slow pace.
Apparently POB was a fan of Louisa May Alcott with her detail, and it is said
that one of the volumes, in which the story is entirely (?) on land, is a
tribute to her. For that reason, it would seem impossible to accomplish the
feel of the books in a movie. And, really, try to think of the movie you would
produce from the real M&C, volume 1. By the time you got the music recital
where A meets M and challenges him, to the promotion, re-meeting and dinner,
fitting the Sophie - there's an hour gone just doing that properly, and they
haven't even got underway.

The diametrical opposite of POB's books are Patrick Cornwell, "Sharp" series, in
which this incredible (literally) ubermench of a junior officer winds up
hobnobbing with Nelson and all sorts of stuff. I couldn't stand it - too MTV.

I do hope that there will be future movies and that they will serve the
population of loyal readers by developing characters and such. Nevertheless, as
a production, it certainly conveyed the confusion of a naval battle, boarding,
and such. And the image of that guy sitting on the 'seat of ease' as the camera
panned down the port side in the snow - that's going to stay with me for a long
time.



Rufus November 29th 03 01:50 AM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
The SF Chronicle ran an article about POB about 2 weeks ago. In the
nineties one of our big business successes from HP who loves sailing
read all his books, and invited POB over for a cruise on the west coast
on our moguls 50' (ketch?). All parties reported great enjoyment, but
the show stopper was that POB displayed a _total_ ignorance of sailing -
couldn't be trusted at the helm and hadn't a clue about the methods or
capabilities of a boat. Completely charming old racanteur (sp?) though,
and impressively brilliant, eccentric, and "old school".

Rufus


Chuck Bollinger wrote:



Gogarty wrote:

Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth
at all.

Yes, like another complex effort: "Dune". Frank Herbert, the author,
complained that the movie should have been titled "Scenes from Dune".

Parhaps the most distinguishing feature of the POB books is the slow
pace. Apparently POB was a fan of Louisa May Alcott with her detail, and
it is said that one of the volumes, in which the story is entirely (?)
on land, is a tribute to her. For that reason, it would seem impossible
to accomplish the feel of the books in a movie. And, really, try to
think of the movie you would produce from the real M&C, volume 1. By
the time you got the music recital where A meets M and challenges him,
to the promotion, re-meeting and dinner, fitting the Sophie - there's an
hour gone just doing that properly, and they haven't even got underway.

The diametrical opposite of POB's books are Patrick Cornwell, "Sharp"
series, in which this incredible (literally) ubermench of a junior
officer winds up hobnobbing with Nelson and all sorts of stuff. I
couldn't stand it - too MTV.

I do hope that there will be future movies and that they will serve the
population of loyal readers by developing characters and such.
Nevertheless, as a production, it certainly conveyed the confusion of a
naval battle, boarding, and such. And the image of that guy sitting on
the 'seat of ease' as the camera panned down the port side in the snow -
that's going to stay with me for a long time.




Rufus November 29th 03 01:50 AM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
The SF Chronicle ran an article about POB about 2 weeks ago. In the
nineties one of our big business successes from HP who loves sailing
read all his books, and invited POB over for a cruise on the west coast
on our moguls 50' (ketch?). All parties reported great enjoyment, but
the show stopper was that POB displayed a _total_ ignorance of sailing -
couldn't be trusted at the helm and hadn't a clue about the methods or
capabilities of a boat. Completely charming old racanteur (sp?) though,
and impressively brilliant, eccentric, and "old school".

Rufus


Chuck Bollinger wrote:



Gogarty wrote:

Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth
at all.

Yes, like another complex effort: "Dune". Frank Herbert, the author,
complained that the movie should have been titled "Scenes from Dune".

Parhaps the most distinguishing feature of the POB books is the slow
pace. Apparently POB was a fan of Louisa May Alcott with her detail, and
it is said that one of the volumes, in which the story is entirely (?)
on land, is a tribute to her. For that reason, it would seem impossible
to accomplish the feel of the books in a movie. And, really, try to
think of the movie you would produce from the real M&C, volume 1. By
the time you got the music recital where A meets M and challenges him,
to the promotion, re-meeting and dinner, fitting the Sophie - there's an
hour gone just doing that properly, and they haven't even got underway.

The diametrical opposite of POB's books are Patrick Cornwell, "Sharp"
series, in which this incredible (literally) ubermench of a junior
officer winds up hobnobbing with Nelson and all sorts of stuff. I
couldn't stand it - too MTV.

I do hope that there will be future movies and that they will serve the
population of loyal readers by developing characters and such.
Nevertheless, as a production, it certainly conveyed the confusion of a
naval battle, boarding, and such. And the image of that guy sitting on
the 'seat of ease' as the camera panned down the port side in the snow -
that's going to stay with me for a long time.




Don White November 29th 03 03:08 AM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
Do you motor or sail Ken? Bras d'or Lakes or ocean?

Ken Heaton wrote in message
...
I saw the movie Master and Commander and was disappointed. I started off
enjoying it but became annoyed with it before the end. I've recently
finished The Truelove (the 16th?) in the series and am enjoying them
immensely. I'll second the "lacked depth" review.

You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada




Don White November 29th 03 03:08 AM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
Do you motor or sail Ken? Bras d'or Lakes or ocean?

Ken Heaton wrote in message
...
I saw the movie Master and Commander and was disappointed. I started off
enjoying it but became annoyed with it before the end. I've recently
finished The Truelove (the 16th?) in the series and am enjoying them
immensely. I'll second the "lacked depth" review.

You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada




Doug Dotson November 29th 03 03:52 AM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
I'm not sure I'd let Tom Clancy pilot a nuclear sub either. But that
doesn't keep him from writing good books.

Doug

"Rufus" wrote in message
news:TXSxb.244628$mZ5.1839072@attbi_s54...
The SF Chronicle ran an article about POB about 2 weeks ago. In the
nineties one of our big business successes from HP who loves sailing
read all his books, and invited POB over for a cruise on the west coast
on our moguls 50' (ketch?). All parties reported great enjoyment, but
the show stopper was that POB displayed a _total_ ignorance of sailing -
couldn't be trusted at the helm and hadn't a clue about the methods or
capabilities of a boat. Completely charming old racanteur (sp?) though,
and impressively brilliant, eccentric, and "old school".

Rufus


Chuck Bollinger wrote:



Gogarty wrote:

Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth
at all.

Yes, like another complex effort: "Dune". Frank Herbert, the author,
complained that the movie should have been titled "Scenes from Dune".

Parhaps the most distinguishing feature of the POB books is the slow
pace. Apparently POB was a fan of Louisa May Alcott with her detail, and
it is said that one of the volumes, in which the story is entirely (?)
on land, is a tribute to her. For that reason, it would seem impossible
to accomplish the feel of the books in a movie. And, really, try to
think of the movie you would produce from the real M&C, volume 1. By
the time you got the music recital where A meets M and challenges him,
to the promotion, re-meeting and dinner, fitting the Sophie - there's an
hour gone just doing that properly, and they haven't even got underway.

The diametrical opposite of POB's books are Patrick Cornwell, "Sharp"
series, in which this incredible (literally) ubermench of a junior
officer winds up hobnobbing with Nelson and all sorts of stuff. I
couldn't stand it - too MTV.

I do hope that there will be future movies and that they will serve the
population of loyal readers by developing characters and such.
Nevertheless, as a production, it certainly conveyed the confusion of a
naval battle, boarding, and such. And the image of that guy sitting on
the 'seat of ease' as the camera panned down the port side in the snow -
that's going to stay with me for a long time.






Doug Dotson November 29th 03 03:52 AM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
I'm not sure I'd let Tom Clancy pilot a nuclear sub either. But that
doesn't keep him from writing good books.

Doug

"Rufus" wrote in message
news:TXSxb.244628$mZ5.1839072@attbi_s54...
The SF Chronicle ran an article about POB about 2 weeks ago. In the
nineties one of our big business successes from HP who loves sailing
read all his books, and invited POB over for a cruise on the west coast
on our moguls 50' (ketch?). All parties reported great enjoyment, but
the show stopper was that POB displayed a _total_ ignorance of sailing -
couldn't be trusted at the helm and hadn't a clue about the methods or
capabilities of a boat. Completely charming old racanteur (sp?) though,
and impressively brilliant, eccentric, and "old school".

Rufus


Chuck Bollinger wrote:



Gogarty wrote:

Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth
at all.

Yes, like another complex effort: "Dune". Frank Herbert, the author,
complained that the movie should have been titled "Scenes from Dune".

Parhaps the most distinguishing feature of the POB books is the slow
pace. Apparently POB was a fan of Louisa May Alcott with her detail, and
it is said that one of the volumes, in which the story is entirely (?)
on land, is a tribute to her. For that reason, it would seem impossible
to accomplish the feel of the books in a movie. And, really, try to
think of the movie you would produce from the real M&C, volume 1. By
the time you got the music recital where A meets M and challenges him,
to the promotion, re-meeting and dinner, fitting the Sophie - there's an
hour gone just doing that properly, and they haven't even got underway.

The diametrical opposite of POB's books are Patrick Cornwell, "Sharp"
series, in which this incredible (literally) ubermench of a junior
officer winds up hobnobbing with Nelson and all sorts of stuff. I
couldn't stand it - too MTV.

I do hope that there will be future movies and that they will serve the
population of loyal readers by developing characters and such.
Nevertheless, as a production, it certainly conveyed the confusion of a
naval battle, boarding, and such. And the image of that guy sitting on
the 'seat of ease' as the camera panned down the port side in the snow -
that's going to stay with me for a long time.






Ken Heaton November 29th 03 11:44 AM

Master and Commander --the movie
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Do you motor or sail Ken? Bras d'or Lakes or ocean?


Sail. Start and finish the season in and around Sydney Harbour. Summers in
the Bras d'Or Lakes. We don't own a boat yet (except for a Laser II) but
crew on, and have use of, a C&C 35 Mark I and also a Paceship Blue Jacket.
Or go out with friends of course.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada

Ken Heaton wrote in message
...
I saw the movie Master and Commander and was disappointed. I started

off
enjoying it but became annoyed with it before the end. I've recently
finished The Truelove (the 16th?) in the series and am enjoying them
immensely. I'll second the "lacked depth" review.

You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada






Ken Heaton November 29th 03 11:44 AM

Master and Commander --the movie
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Do you motor or sail Ken? Bras d'or Lakes or ocean?


Sail. Start and finish the season in and around Sydney Harbour. Summers in
the Bras d'Or Lakes. We don't own a boat yet (except for a Laser II) but
crew on, and have use of, a C&C 35 Mark I and also a Paceship Blue Jacket.
Or go out with friends of course.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada

Ken Heaton wrote in message
...
I saw the movie Master and Commander and was disappointed. I started

off
enjoying it but became annoyed with it before the end. I've recently
finished The Truelove (the 16th?) in the series and am enjoying them
immensely. I'll second the "lacked depth" review.

You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada






Ernie November 29th 03 01:42 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 

"Chuck Bollinger" wrote in message
news:WARxb.249079$275.917573@attbi_s53...


Gogarty wrote:

Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth at
all.

Yes, like another complex effort: "Dune". Frank Herbert, the author,

complained
that the movie should have been titled "Scenes from Dune".


Another befitting title "Who Dunit". I couldn't tell who was fighting whom.

Parhaps the most distinguishing feature of the POB books is the slow pace.
Apparently POB was a fan of Louisa May Alcott with her detail, and it is

said
that one of the volumes, in which the story is entirely (?) on land, is a
tribute to her. For that reason, it would seem impossible to accomplish

the
feel of the books in a movie. And, really, try to think of the movie you

would
produce from the real M&C, volume 1. By the time you got the music

recital
where A meets M and challenges him, to the promotion, re-meeting and

dinner,
fitting the Sophie - there's an hour gone just doing that properly, and

they
haven't even got underway.

The diametrical opposite of POB's books are Patrick Cornwell, "Sharp"

series, in
which this incredible (literally) ubermench of a junior officer winds up
hobnobbing with Nelson and all sorts of stuff. I couldn't stand it - too

MTV.

I do hope that there will be future movies and that they will serve the
population of loyal readers by developing characters and such.

Nevertheless, as
a production, it certainly conveyed the confusion of a naval battle,

boarding,
and such. And the image of that guy sitting on the 'seat of ease' as the

camera
panned down the port side in the snow - that's going to stay with me for a

long
time.





Ernie November 29th 03 01:42 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 

"Chuck Bollinger" wrote in message
news:WARxb.249079$275.917573@attbi_s53...


Gogarty wrote:

Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth at
all.

Yes, like another complex effort: "Dune". Frank Herbert, the author,

complained
that the movie should have been titled "Scenes from Dune".


Another befitting title "Who Dunit". I couldn't tell who was fighting whom.

Parhaps the most distinguishing feature of the POB books is the slow pace.
Apparently POB was a fan of Louisa May Alcott with her detail, and it is

said
that one of the volumes, in which the story is entirely (?) on land, is a
tribute to her. For that reason, it would seem impossible to accomplish

the
feel of the books in a movie. And, really, try to think of the movie you

would
produce from the real M&C, volume 1. By the time you got the music

recital
where A meets M and challenges him, to the promotion, re-meeting and

dinner,
fitting the Sophie - there's an hour gone just doing that properly, and

they
haven't even got underway.

The diametrical opposite of POB's books are Patrick Cornwell, "Sharp"

series, in
which this incredible (literally) ubermench of a junior officer winds up
hobnobbing with Nelson and all sorts of stuff. I couldn't stand it - too

MTV.

I do hope that there will be future movies and that they will serve the
population of loyal readers by developing characters and such.

Nevertheless, as
a production, it certainly conveyed the confusion of a naval battle,

boarding,
and such. And the image of that guy sitting on the 'seat of ease' as the

camera
panned down the port side in the snow - that's going to stay with me for a

long
time.





Don White November 29th 03 03:26 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
Somebody up your way was advertising a Sandpiper 565 early October.
I called, but he didn't seem to know a lot about it.
I passed......didn't want to drive the 700-800 km round trip from Halifax
unless I felt it was worthwhile.
Our home club...the RNSYS sold off two of the Bluejackets a year or so
ago.(used for adult sailing courses)
I need something I can trailer behind a Voyager mini-van so I can do theBras
d'Or Lakes etc.

Ken Heaton wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Do you motor or sail Ken? Bras d'or Lakes or ocean?


Sail. Start and finish the season in and around Sydney Harbour. Summers

in
the Bras d'Or Lakes. We don't own a boat yet (except for a Laser II) but
crew on, and have use of, a C&C 35 Mark I and also a Paceship Blue Jacket.
Or go out with friends of course.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada

Ken Heaton wrote in message
...
I saw the movie Master and Commander and was disappointed. I started

off
enjoying it but became annoyed with it before the end. I've recently
finished The Truelove (the 16th?) in the series and am enjoying them
immensely. I'll second the "lacked depth" review.

You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada








Don White November 29th 03 03:26 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
Somebody up your way was advertising a Sandpiper 565 early October.
I called, but he didn't seem to know a lot about it.
I passed......didn't want to drive the 700-800 km round trip from Halifax
unless I felt it was worthwhile.
Our home club...the RNSYS sold off two of the Bluejackets a year or so
ago.(used for adult sailing courses)
I need something I can trailer behind a Voyager mini-van so I can do theBras
d'Or Lakes etc.

Ken Heaton wrote in message
...

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Do you motor or sail Ken? Bras d'or Lakes or ocean?


Sail. Start and finish the season in and around Sydney Harbour. Summers

in
the Bras d'Or Lakes. We don't own a boat yet (except for a Laser II) but
crew on, and have use of, a C&C 35 Mark I and also a Paceship Blue Jacket.
Or go out with friends of course.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada

Ken Heaton wrote in message
...
I saw the movie Master and Commander and was disappointed. I started

off
enjoying it but became annoyed with it before the end. I've recently
finished The Truelove (the 16th?) in the series and am enjoying them
immensely. I'll second the "lacked depth" review.

You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.
--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada








Joe Wood November 29th 03 03:52 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
FYI. A new Hornblower episode, "Hornblower and the Hotspur", will be
airing this coming Tuesday and Wednesday evenings on A&E.

Joe Wood

Gogarty wrote:
Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth at
all.



Joe Wood November 29th 03 03:52 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
FYI. A new Hornblower episode, "Hornblower and the Hotspur", will be
airing this coming Tuesday and Wednesday evenings on A&E.

Joe Wood

Gogarty wrote:
Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth at
all.



Vic Fraenckel November 29th 03 06:05 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
Dare to change the subject so we do not have to read your private
communications if we choose not to.

Thanks

Vic

--
__________________________________________________ ______

Victor Fraenckel - The Windman
vfraenc1 ATSIGN nycap DOT rr DOTcom
KC2GUI

Home of the WindReader Electronic Theodolite
Read the WIND

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long
and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
- Winston [Leonard Spencer] Churchill (1874 - 1965)

Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
-Count Oxenstierna (ca 1620) to the young King Gustavus Adolphus

"Don White" wrote in message
...
| Somebody up your way was advertising a Sandpiper 565 early October.
| I called, but he didn't seem to know a lot about it.
| I passed......didn't want to drive the 700-800 km round trip from Halifax
| unless I felt it was worthwhile.
| Our home club...the RNSYS sold off two of the Bluejackets a year or so
| ago.(used for adult sailing courses)
| I need something I can trailer behind a Voyager mini-van so I can do
theBras
| d'Or Lakes etc.
|
| Ken Heaton wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Don White" wrote in message
| ...
| Do you motor or sail Ken? Bras d'or Lakes or ocean?
|
| Sail. Start and finish the season in and around Sydney Harbour.
Summers
| in
| the Bras d'Or Lakes. We don't own a boat yet (except for a Laser II)
but
| crew on, and have use of, a C&C 35 Mark I and also a Paceship Blue
Jacket.
| Or go out with friends of course.
| --
| Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
| Cape Breton Island, Canada
|
| Ken Heaton wrote in message
| ...
| I saw the movie Master and Commander and was disappointed. I
started
| off
| enjoying it but became annoyed with it before the end. I've
recently
| finished The Truelove (the 16th?) in the series and am enjoying them
| immensely. I'll second the "lacked depth" review.
|
| You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
| whatever.
| --
| Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
| Cape Breton Island, Canada
|
|
|
|
|
|
|



Vic Fraenckel November 29th 03 06:05 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
Dare to change the subject so we do not have to read your private
communications if we choose not to.

Thanks

Vic

--
__________________________________________________ ______

Victor Fraenckel - The Windman
vfraenc1 ATSIGN nycap DOT rr DOTcom
KC2GUI

Home of the WindReader Electronic Theodolite
Read the WIND

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long
and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
- Winston [Leonard Spencer] Churchill (1874 - 1965)

Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
-Count Oxenstierna (ca 1620) to the young King Gustavus Adolphus

"Don White" wrote in message
...
| Somebody up your way was advertising a Sandpiper 565 early October.
| I called, but he didn't seem to know a lot about it.
| I passed......didn't want to drive the 700-800 km round trip from Halifax
| unless I felt it was worthwhile.
| Our home club...the RNSYS sold off two of the Bluejackets a year or so
| ago.(used for adult sailing courses)
| I need something I can trailer behind a Voyager mini-van so I can do
theBras
| d'Or Lakes etc.
|
| Ken Heaton wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Don White" wrote in message
| ...
| Do you motor or sail Ken? Bras d'or Lakes or ocean?
|
| Sail. Start and finish the season in and around Sydney Harbour.
Summers
| in
| the Bras d'Or Lakes. We don't own a boat yet (except for a Laser II)
but
| crew on, and have use of, a C&C 35 Mark I and also a Paceship Blue
Jacket.
| Or go out with friends of course.
| --
| Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
| Cape Breton Island, Canada
|
| Ken Heaton wrote in message
| ...
| I saw the movie Master and Commander and was disappointed. I
started
| off
| enjoying it but became annoyed with it before the end. I've
recently
| finished The Truelove (the 16th?) in the series and am enjoying them
| immensely. I'll second the "lacked depth" review.
|
| You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
| whatever.
| --
| Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
| Cape Breton Island, Canada
|
|
|
|
|
|
|



Jeff Morris November 29th 03 06:27 PM

Master and Commander --the movie
 
I don't mind a few "private" comments - In fact I took the opportunity to find
out where Sydney Harbor is. And, as a former Paceship owner (Eastwind), I was
curious about the Bluejacket.

However, I think its very rude to have a 14 line signature, when the netiquette
standard is 3. Is that why you're called "The Windman"?

BTW, I think the new Hornblower movies are pretty good. And while the "Master
and ..." movie lacks a plot, this is not the worst thing for an action movie.
Frankly, I thought the POB books lacked action and never finished the series -
the movie was much more enjoyable.

-jeff www.sv-loki.com
If you can't say something nice, say something surrealistic. -Zippy


"Vic Fraenckel" wrote in message
. ..
Dare to change the subject so we do not have to read your private
communications if we choose not to.

Thanks

Vic

--
__________________________________________________ ______

Victor Fraenckel - The Windman
vfraenc1 ATSIGN nycap DOT rr DOTcom
KC2GUI

Home of the WindReader Electronic Theodolite
Read the WIND

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long
and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
- Winston [Leonard Spencer] Churchill (1874 - 1965)

Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
-Count Oxenstierna (ca 1620) to the young King Gustavus Adolphus

"Don White" wrote in message
...
| Somebody up your way was advertising a Sandpiper 565 early October.
| I called, but he didn't seem to know a lot about it.
| I passed......didn't want to drive the 700-800 km round trip from Halifax
| unless I felt it was worthwhile.
| Our home club...the RNSYS sold off two of the Bluejackets a year or so
| ago.(used for adult sailing courses)
| I need something I can trailer behind a Voyager mini-van so I can do
theBras
| d'Or Lakes etc.
|
| Ken Heaton wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Don White" wrote in message
| ...
| Do you motor or sail Ken? Bras d'or Lakes or ocean?
|
| Sail. Start and finish the season in and around Sydney Harbour.
Summers
| in
| the Bras d'Or Lakes. We don't own a boat yet (except for a Laser II)
but
| crew on, and have use of, a C&C 35 Mark I and also a Paceship Blue
Jacket.
| Or go out with friends of course.
| --
| Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
| Cape Breton Island, Canada
|
| Ken Heaton wrote in message
| ...
| I saw the movie Master and Commander and was disappointed. I
started
| off
| enjoying it but became annoyed with it before the end. I've
recently
| finished The Truelove (the 16th?) in the series and am enjoying them
| immensely. I'll second the "lacked depth" review.
|
| You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
| whatever.
| --
| Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
| Cape Breton Island, Canada
|
|
|
|
|
|
|






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