Master and Commander --the movie
 

I don't mind a few "private" comments - In fact I took the opportunity to find
out where Sydney Harbor is. And, as a former Paceship owner (Eastwind), I was
curious about the Bluejacket.

However, I think its very rude to have a 14 line signature, when the netiquette
standard is 3. Is that why you're called "The Windman"?

BTW, I think the new Hornblower movies are pretty good. And while the "Master
and ..." movie lacks a plot, this is not the worst thing for an action movie.
Frankly, I thought the POB books lacked action and never finished the series -
the movie was much more enjoyable.

-jeff www.sv-loki.com
If you can't say something nice, say something surrealistic. -Zippy


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communications if we choose not to.

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| Somebody up your way was advertising a Sandpiper 565 early October.
| I called, but he didn't seem to know a lot about it.
| I passed......didn't want to drive the 700-800 km round trip from Halifax
| unless I felt it was worthwhile.
| Our home club...the RNSYS sold off two of the Bluejackets a year or so
| ago.(used for adult sailing courses)
| I need something I can trailer behind a Voyager mini-van so I can do
theBras
| d'Or Lakes etc.
|
| Ken Heaton wrote in message
| ...
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| "Don White" wrote in message
| ...
| Do you motor or sail Ken? Bras d'or Lakes or ocean?
|
| Sail. Start and finish the season in and around Sydney Harbour.
Summers
| in
| the Bras d'Or Lakes. We don't own a boat yet (except for a Laser II)
but
| crew on, and have use of, a C&C 35 Mark I and also a Paceship Blue
Jacket.
| Or go out with friends of course.
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| Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
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| Ken Heaton wrote in message
| ...
| I saw the movie Master and Commander and was disappointed. I
started
| off
| enjoying it but became annoyed with it before the end. I've
recently
| finished The Truelove (the 16th?) in the series and am enjoying them
| immensely. I'll second the "lacked depth" review.
|
| You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
| whatever.
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| Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
| Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Master and Commander --the movie
 

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message ...
I'm not sure I'd let Tom Clancy pilot a nuclear sub either. But that
doesn't keep him from writing good books.

Doug

Hey, don't underestimate Tom Cruise, he reminded me of a young Ronald
Reagan --he might run for President.

I loved it when he said, "some people can't handle the truth" and then
he chuckled.

http://www.geocities.com/tom5515/frame.htm

It's a line from the movie, "Afew Good Men" and he evidently thinks
that we are all starved for the truth --he might be right.

Master and Commander --the movie
 

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message ...
I'm not sure I'd let Tom Clancy pilot a nuclear sub either. But that
doesn't keep him from writing good books.

Doug

Hey, don't underestimate Tom Cruise, he reminded me of a young Ronald
Reagan --he might run for President.

I loved it when he said, "some people can't handle the truth" and then
he chuckled.

http://www.geocities.com/tom5515/frame.htm

It's a line from the movie, "Afew Good Men" and he evidently thinks
that we are all starved for the truth --he might be right.

Master and Commander --the movie
 

In article ,
says...



You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.
--
There are several. "A Sea of Words: A lexicon and companion for Patrick
O'Brian's Seafaring tales," by Dean King; "Harbors and High Seas: An atlas
and geographiical guide to the Aubrey-Maturin novel fo Patrick O.Brian,"
also by Dean King. There was also a cookbook that reproduced every blessed
and disgusting thing mentioned about shipboard cuisine in the books but I
can't find it. O'Brian also wrote several other boos, including "Men-of-War:
Life in Nelson's Navy."

Master and Commander --the movie
 

In article ,
says...



You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.
--
There are several. "A Sea of Words: A lexicon and companion for Patrick
O'Brian's Seafaring tales," by Dean King; "Harbors and High Seas: An atlas
and geographiical guide to the Aubrey-Maturin novel fo Patrick O.Brian,"
also by Dean King. There was also a cookbook that reproduced every blessed
and disgusting thing mentioned about shipboard cuisine in the books but I
can't find it. O'Brian also wrote several other boos, including "Men-of-War:
Life in Nelson's Navy."

Master and Commander --the movie
 

In article , says...



With all the good sailing yarns out there to read, I just can't get excited
about Patrick O'Brian. I am looking forward to seeing the movie, but mostly
just
to see the sailing scenes.

Despite that the entire movie takes place on baord ship, with a stop in Brazil
and in the Galapagos, there is not that much sailing. The storm scene is
pretty good. But I can think of at least two vividly painted scene in the
books that shoukld have made it into the film. One was when Surprise was
making her easting down with days and days of fair strong wind and the whole
crew just relaxed silently into the joy of sailing. A second was the
destruction of the Dutch warship that pooped in following seas when a luck
shot from Surprise's stern chasers took out her forestay. But there was also
so much in the books aboyut politics, spycraft (the escape as dancing bears),
finance and so much more not even hinted at in the picture, which must have
been later than the original book since Aubrey sports two epaulets.

Master and Commander --the movie
 

In article , says...



With all the good sailing yarns out there to read, I just can't get excited
about Patrick O'Brian. I am looking forward to seeing the movie, but mostly
just
to see the sailing scenes.

Despite that the entire movie takes place on baord ship, with a stop in Brazil
and in the Galapagos, there is not that much sailing. The storm scene is
pretty good. But I can think of at least two vividly painted scene in the
books that shoukld have made it into the film. One was when Surprise was
making her easting down with days and days of fair strong wind and the whole
crew just relaxed silently into the joy of sailing. A second was the
destruction of the Dutch warship that pooped in following seas when a luck
shot from Surprise's stern chasers took out her forestay. But there was also
so much in the books aboyut politics, spycraft (the escape as dancing bears),
finance and so much more not even hinted at in the picture, which must have
been later than the original book since Aubrey sports two epaulets.

Lobscouse & Spotted Dog
 

by Anne Chotzinoff Grossman & Lisa Grossman Thomas (Forward by Patrick
O'Brian, whoever he is!)


"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...



You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.
--
There are several. "A Sea of Words: A lexicon and companion for Patrick
O'Brian's Seafaring tales," by Dean King; "Harbors and High Seas: An atlas
and geographiical guide to the Aubrey-Maturin novel fo Patrick O.Brian,"
also by Dean King. There was also a cookbook that reproduced every blessed
and disgusting thing mentioned about shipboard cuisine in the books but I
can't find it. O'Brian also wrote several other boos, including
"Men-of-War:
Life in Nelson's Navy."

Lobscouse & Spotted Dog
 

by Anne Chotzinoff Grossman & Lisa Grossman Thomas (Forward by Patrick
O'Brian, whoever he is!)


"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...



You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.
--
There are several. "A Sea of Words: A lexicon and companion for Patrick
O'Brian's Seafaring tales," by Dean King; "Harbors and High Seas: An atlas
and geographiical guide to the Aubrey-Maturin novel fo Patrick O.Brian,"
also by Dean King. There was also a cookbook that reproduced every blessed
and disgusting thing mentioned about shipboard cuisine in the books but I
can't find it. O'Brian also wrote several other boos, including
"Men-of-War:
Life in Nelson's Navy."

Master and Commander --the movie
 

M& C; The Movie was very disappointing for me as well, but it showed me two
things. One was just how bloody crowded the deck of a fifth rate must have
been, and the other was virtually all the things about the POB series that I
cared least about!
And Crowe was not any kind of Jack Aubrey that I recognized.


"Chuck Bollinger" wrote in message
news:WARxb.249079$275.917573@attbi_s53...


Gogarty wrote:

Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth at
all.

Yes, like another complex effort: "Dune". Frank Herbert, the author,
complained
that the movie should have been titled "Scenes from Dune".

Parhaps the most distinguishing feature of the POB books is the slow pace.
Apparently POB was a fan of Louisa May Alcott with her detail, and it is
said
that one of the volumes, in which the story is entirely (?) on land, is a
tribute to her. For that reason, it would seem impossible to accomplish
the
feel of the books in a movie. And, really, try to think of the movie you
would
produce from the real M&C, volume 1. By the time you got the music
recital
where A meets M and challenges him, to the promotion, re-meeting and
dinner,
fitting the Sophie - there's an hour gone just doing that properly, and
they
haven't even got underway.

The diametrical opposite of POB's books are Patrick Cornwell, "Sharp"
series, in
which this incredible (literally) ubermench of a junior officer winds up
hobnobbing with Nelson and all sorts of stuff. I couldn't stand it - too
MTV.

I do hope that there will be future movies and that they will serve the
population of loyal readers by developing characters and such.
Nevertheless, as
a production, it certainly conveyed the confusion of a naval battle,
boarding,
and such. And the image of that guy sitting on the 'seat of ease' as the
camera
panned down the port side in the snow - that's going to stay with me for a
long
time.

Master and Commander --the movie
 

M& C; The Movie was very disappointing for me as well, but it showed me two
things. One was just how bloody crowded the deck of a fifth rate must have
been, and the other was virtually all the things about the POB series that I
cared least about!
And Crowe was not any kind of Jack Aubrey that I recognized.


"Chuck Bollinger" wrote in message
news:WARxb.249079$275.917573@attbi_s53...


Gogarty wrote:

Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth at
all.

Yes, like another complex effort: "Dune". Frank Herbert, the author,
complained
that the movie should have been titled "Scenes from Dune".

Parhaps the most distinguishing feature of the POB books is the slow pace.
Apparently POB was a fan of Louisa May Alcott with her detail, and it is
said
that one of the volumes, in which the story is entirely (?) on land, is a
tribute to her. For that reason, it would seem impossible to accomplish
the
feel of the books in a movie. And, really, try to think of the movie you
would
produce from the real M&C, volume 1. By the time you got the music
recital
where A meets M and challenges him, to the promotion, re-meeting and
dinner,
fitting the Sophie - there's an hour gone just doing that properly, and
they
haven't even got underway.

The diametrical opposite of POB's books are Patrick Cornwell, "Sharp"
series, in
which this incredible (literally) ubermench of a junior officer winds up
hobnobbing with Nelson and all sorts of stuff. I couldn't stand it - too
MTV.

I do hope that there will be future movies and that they will serve the
population of loyal readers by developing characters and such.
Nevertheless, as
a production, it certainly conveyed the confusion of a naval battle,
boarding,
and such. And the image of that guy sitting on the 'seat of ease' as the
camera
panned down the port side in the snow - that's going to stay with me for a
long
time.

Master and Commander --the movie
 

FWIW: I found lots of references to Patrick O'Brian by Googling on his name.

HTH

Vic
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"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long
and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
- Winston [Leonard Spencer] Churchill (1874 - 1965)

Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
-Count Oxenstierna (ca 1620) to the young King Gustavus Adolphus

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
| In article ,
| says...
|
|
|
| You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
| whatever.
| --
| There are several. "A Sea of Words: A lexicon and companion for Patrick
| O'Brian's Seafaring tales," by Dean King; "Harbors and High Seas: An atlas
| and geographiical guide to the Aubrey-Maturin novel fo Patrick O.Brian,"
| also by Dean King. There was also a cookbook that reproduced every blessed
| and disgusting thing mentioned about shipboard cuisine in the books but I
| can't find it. O'Brian also wrote several other boos, including
"Men-of-War:
| Life in Nelson's Navy."
|

Master and Commander --the movie
 

FWIW: I found lots of references to Patrick O'Brian by Googling on his name.

HTH

Vic
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Read the WIND

"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long
and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival."
- Winston [Leonard Spencer] Churchill (1874 - 1965)

Dost thou not know, my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?
-Count Oxenstierna (ca 1620) to the young King Gustavus Adolphus

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
| In article ,
| says...
|
|
|
| You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
| whatever.
| --
| There are several. "A Sea of Words: A lexicon and companion for Patrick
| O'Brian's Seafaring tales," by Dean King; "Harbors and High Seas: An atlas
| and geographiical guide to the Aubrey-Maturin novel fo Patrick O.Brian,"
| also by Dean King. There was also a cookbook that reproduced every blessed
| and disgusting thing mentioned about shipboard cuisine in the books but I
| can't find it. O'Brian also wrote several other boos, including
"Men-of-War:
| Life in Nelson's Navy."
|

Master and Commander --the movie
 

I think Gogarty is looking
for religion or something if he/she wants more depth? This was
entertainment. If he/she wants more depth, look to the real world.


Good movies can provide both. Master and Commander falls well short due to an
inept screenplay.

RB

Master and Commander --the movie
 

I think Gogarty is looking
for religion or something if he/she wants more depth? This was
entertainment. If he/she wants more depth, look to the real world.


Good movies can provide both. Master and Commander falls well short due to an
inept screenplay.

RB

Master and Commander --the movie
 

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:00:17 -0400, "Ken Heaton"
wrote:

I saw the movie Master and Commander and was disappointed. I started off
enjoying it but became annoyed with it before the end. I've recently
finished The Truelove (the 16th?) in the series and am enjoying them
immensely. I'll second the "lacked depth" review.

You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.

Have a look around http://www.hmssurprise.org, and
http://www.sea-room.com for a start.


--
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Master and Commander --the movie
 

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:00:17 -0400, "Ken Heaton"
wrote:

I saw the movie Master and Commander and was disappointed. I started off
enjoying it but became annoyed with it before the end. I've recently
finished The Truelove (the 16th?) in the series and am enjoying them
immensely. I'll second the "lacked depth" review.

You referred to spin-offs. To what do you refer? Titles please, or
whatever.

Have a look around http://www.hmssurprise.org, and
http://www.sea-room.com for a start.


--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
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Master and Commander --the movie
 

Sorry: Not Louisa May Alcott but Jane Austin. That's who PO'B respected.

Chuck Bollinger wrote:



Gogarty wrote:

Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth
at all.

Yes, like another complex effort: "Dune". Frank Herbert, the author,
complained that the movie should have been titled "Scenes from Dune".

Parhaps the most distinguishing feature of the POB books is the slow
pace. Apparently POB was a fan of Louisa May Alcott with her detail, and
it is said that one of the volumes, in which the story is entirely (?)
on land, is a tribute to her. For that reason, it would seem impossible
to accomplish the feel of the books in a movie. And, really, try to
think of the movie you would produce from the real M&C, volume 1. By
the time you got the music recital where A meets M and challenges him,
to the promotion, re-meeting and dinner, fitting the Sophie - there's an
hour gone just doing that properly, and they haven't even got underway.

The diametrical opposite of POB's books are Patrick Cornwell, "Sharp"
series, in which this incredible (literally) ubermench of a junior
officer winds up hobnobbing with Nelson and all sorts of stuff. I
couldn't stand it - too MTV.

I do hope that there will be future movies and that they will serve the
population of loyal readers by developing characters and such.
Nevertheless, as a production, it certainly conveyed the confusion of a
naval battle, boarding, and such. And the image of that guy sitting on
the 'seat of ease' as the camera panned down the port side in the snow -
that's going to stay with me for a long time.

Master and Commander --the movie
 

Sorry: Not Louisa May Alcott but Jane Austin. That's who PO'B respected.

Chuck Bollinger wrote:



Gogarty wrote:

Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth
at all.

Yes, like another complex effort: "Dune". Frank Herbert, the author,
complained that the movie should have been titled "Scenes from Dune".

Parhaps the most distinguishing feature of the POB books is the slow
pace. Apparently POB was a fan of Louisa May Alcott with her detail, and
it is said that one of the volumes, in which the story is entirely (?)
on land, is a tribute to her. For that reason, it would seem impossible
to accomplish the feel of the books in a movie. And, really, try to
think of the movie you would produce from the real M&C, volume 1. By
the time you got the music recital where A meets M and challenges him,
to the promotion, re-meeting and dinner, fitting the Sophie - there's an
hour gone just doing that properly, and they haven't even got underway.

The diametrical opposite of POB's books are Patrick Cornwell, "Sharp"
series, in which this incredible (literally) ubermench of a junior
officer winds up hobnobbing with Nelson and all sorts of stuff. I
couldn't stand it - too MTV.

I do hope that there will be future movies and that they will serve the
population of loyal readers by developing characters and such.
Nevertheless, as a production, it certainly conveyed the confusion of a
naval battle, boarding, and such. And the image of that guy sitting on
the 'seat of ease' as the camera panned down the port side in the snow -
that's going to stay with me for a long time.

Master and Commander --the movie
 

The cookbook I mentioned is "Lobscouse & Spotted Dog: Which It's a
Gastronomic Companion to the Aubrey/Maturin Novels;" The authors went to
great lengths to duplicate in early 19 Century terms the food served on a
warship of that time. Not surprisingly, some of the ingredients were not to
be found.

Master and Commander --the movie
 

The cookbook I mentioned is "Lobscouse & Spotted Dog: Which It's a
Gastronomic Companion to the Aubrey/Maturin Novels;" The authors went to
great lengths to duplicate in early 19 Century terms the food served on a
warship of that time. Not surprisingly, some of the ingredients were not to
be found.

Master and Commander --the movie
 

Gogarty wrote:

The cookbook I mentioned is "Lobscouse & Spotted Dog: Which It's a
Gastronomic Companion to the Aubrey/Maturin Novels;" The authors went to
great lengths to duplicate in early 19 Century terms the food served on a
warship of that time. Not surprisingly, some of the ingredients were not to
be found.

After we saw M&C we held a "Gunroom Dinner". I fixed a sea pie making it with
Hot Water Paste and all. Chickened out and made it in a springmold, unmolding
after a while to let brown. It wasn't worth the day it took, but it didn't
taste bad. Someone else made a 'Roly Poly' which came out pretty badly.

Other offerings were equally strange. The Port and walnuts were great.

Believe me, one can get into enough trouble with the ingredients that can be
found (A pound of butter, a pound of lard, a dozen eggs, hogshead of tripe...
good Lord!).

Master and Commander --the movie
 

Gogarty wrote:

The cookbook I mentioned is "Lobscouse & Spotted Dog: Which It's a
Gastronomic Companion to the Aubrey/Maturin Novels;" The authors went to
great lengths to duplicate in early 19 Century terms the food served on a
warship of that time. Not surprisingly, some of the ingredients were not to
be found.

After we saw M&C we held a "Gunroom Dinner". I fixed a sea pie making it with
Hot Water Paste and all. Chickened out and made it in a springmold, unmolding
after a while to let brown. It wasn't worth the day it took, but it didn't
taste bad. Someone else made a 'Roly Poly' which came out pretty badly.

Other offerings were equally strange. The Port and walnuts were great.

Believe me, one can get into enough trouble with the ingredients that can be
found (A pound of butter, a pound of lard, a dozen eggs, hogshead of tripe...
good Lord!).

Master and Commander --the movie
 

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:00:09 -0500, Gogarty
wrote:

Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth at
all.

I don't know what you were looking for. I found lots of interesting
details. A couple of examples:


Stu'ns'ls being set by two totally different methods. Were these
French and English practice?

An amputation carried out with "original instruments." The tools look
exactly like those in the _Chirurgie_ section of the _Encyclopedie_ of
Diderot and D'Alembert.

There are other things to knock. The MOB scene is absurdly sentimental
and unrealistic.

But, There is lots of entertaining action-- enough so I will go back
and see it again. I want to check the cello and violin for period
detail. I think they must have been OK or I would have been
uncomfortable, but I can't recall exactly.





Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Be careful. The toe you stepped on yesterday may be connected to the ass you have to kiss today." --Former mayor Ciancia

Master and Commander --the movie
 

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:00:09 -0500, Gogarty
wrote:

Has anyone seen this movie? I did yesterday. Disappointing. No depth at
all.

I don't know what you were looking for. I found lots of interesting
details. A couple of examples:


Stu'ns'ls being set by two totally different methods. Were these
French and English practice?

An amputation carried out with "original instruments." The tools look
exactly like those in the _Chirurgie_ section of the _Encyclopedie_ of
Diderot and D'Alembert.

There are other things to knock. The MOB scene is absurdly sentimental
and unrealistic.

But, There is lots of entertaining action-- enough so I will go back
and see it again. I want to check the cello and violin for period
detail. I think they must have been OK or I would have been
uncomfortable, but I can't recall exactly.





Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Be careful. The toe you stepped on yesterday may be connected to the ass you have to kiss today." --Former mayor Ciancia

Master and Commander --the movie
 

I don't know what you were looking for. I found lots of interesting
details. A couple of examples:

My guess was he was looking for a balanced and engrossing screenplay and
action.
Glad you enjoyed the setwork and props.
Master and Commander is not good filmmaking.

Capt RB

Master and Commander --the movie
 

I don't know what you were looking for. I found lots of interesting
details. A couple of examples:

My guess was he was looking for a balanced and engrossing screenplay and
action.
Glad you enjoyed the setwork and props.
Master and Commander is not good filmmaking.

Capt RB

Master and Commander --the movie
 

In article ,
says...


I don't know what you were looking for. I found lots of interesting
details. A couple of examples:

My guess was he was looking for a balanced and engrossing screenplay and
action.
Glad you enjoyed the setwork and props.
Master and Commander is not good filmmaking.

My thought exactly. I appreciated the fidelity to period detail (except
for Dr. Maturin stumbling upon Origin of Species sometime before Darwin
got around to it). But that basically was the problem with the picture --
it was a catalog, not a story. Might have helped had I understood one
word in a hundred. Badly needed subtitles.

Master and Commander --the movie
 

In article ,
says...


I don't know what you were looking for. I found lots of interesting
details. A couple of examples:

My guess was he was looking for a balanced and engrossing screenplay and
action.
Glad you enjoyed the setwork and props.
Master and Commander is not good filmmaking.

My thought exactly. I appreciated the fidelity to period detail (except
for Dr. Maturin stumbling upon Origin of Species sometime before Darwin
got around to it). But that basically was the problem with the picture --
it was a catalog, not a story. Might have helped had I understood one
word in a hundred. Badly needed subtitles.

Master and Commander --the movie
 

On 01 Dec 2003 17:21:28 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:


Master and Commander is not good filmmaking.

I bow to your authoritative judgement. I enjoyed the film.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Be careful. The toe you stepped on yesterday may be connected to the ass you have to kiss today." --Former mayor Ciancia

Master and Commander --the movie
 

On 01 Dec 2003 17:21:28 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:


Master and Commander is not good filmmaking.

I bow to your authoritative judgement. I enjoyed the film.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Be careful. The toe you stepped on yesterday may be connected to the ass you have to kiss today." --Former mayor Ciancia

Master and Commander --the movie
 

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:59:10 -0500, Gogarty
wrote:

In article ,
says...


I don't know what you were looking for. I found lots of interesting
details. A couple of examples:

My guess was he was looking for a balanced and engrossing screenplay and
action.
Glad you enjoyed the setwork and props.
Master and Commander is not good filmmaking.

My thought exactly. I appreciated the fidelity to period detail (except
for Dr. Maturin stumbling upon Origin of Species sometime before Darwin
got around to it).

I found that amusing. Of course, it isn't impossible that some people
noticed some of those things before Darwin. Indeed, we know they did,
but not in the Galapagos AFIK.

But that basically was the problem with the picture --
it was a catalog, not a story. Might have helped had I understood one
word in a hundred. Badly needed subtitles.

I had no trouble understanding the sound track, but your point is well
taken. Whenever the dialect may be difficult, titles are a good idea.
I couldn't have followed Riff-raff or Trainspotters without them.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Be careful. The toe you stepped on yesterday may be connected to the ass you have to kiss today." --Former mayor Ciancia

Master and Commander --the movie
 

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:59:10 -0500, Gogarty
wrote:

In article ,
says...


I don't know what you were looking for. I found lots of interesting
details. A couple of examples:

My guess was he was looking for a balanced and engrossing screenplay and
action.
Glad you enjoyed the setwork and props.
Master and Commander is not good filmmaking.

My thought exactly. I appreciated the fidelity to period detail (except
for Dr. Maturin stumbling upon Origin of Species sometime before Darwin
got around to it).

I found that amusing. Of course, it isn't impossible that some people
noticed some of those things before Darwin. Indeed, we know they did,
but not in the Galapagos AFIK.

But that basically was the problem with the picture --
it was a catalog, not a story. Might have helped had I understood one
word in a hundred. Badly needed subtitles.

I had no trouble understanding the sound track, but your point is well
taken. Whenever the dialect may be difficult, titles are a good idea.
I couldn't have followed Riff-raff or Trainspotters without them.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Be careful. The toe you stepped on yesterday may be connected to the ass you have to kiss today." --Former mayor Ciancia

Master and Commander --the movie
 

Master and Commander is not good filmmaking.

I bow to your authoritative judgement. I enjoyed the film.


In that case you might also enjoy: Cat in the Hat, Problem Child 2, and Jaws 4.

RB

Master and Commander --the movie
 

Master and Commander is not good filmmaking.

I bow to your authoritative judgement. I enjoyed the film.


In that case you might also enjoy: Cat in the Hat, Problem Child 2, and Jaws 4.

RB