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Well, I did it. I'm now the proud re-owner of a Mac 26X and a fine one
she is if I must say so myself. I got her at a real bargain basement price, yes siree! Before I launch her for the first time I've got a couple things I want to do. First is to rename her. I don't like the present name at all. I'm torn between a couple of different names. 1) Symbiosis (comment on how well sail and power are built into one boat) 2) Sea's Son (double entendre) 3) Sensibility (descriptive) 4) Plaid Power (rather Scottish a compliment on MacGregor, I guess he's Scottish) What one do you think is best? Cheers, Ed Gordon |
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"Ed Gordon" wrote in message ... Well, I did it. I'm now the proud re-owner of a Mac 26X and a fine one she is if I must say so myself. I got her at a real bargain basement price, yes siree! Before I launch her for the first time I've got a couple things I want to do. First is to rename her. I don't like the present name at all. I'm torn between a couple of different names. 1) Symbiosis (comment on how well sail and power are built into one boat) 2) Sea's Son (double entendre) 3) Sensibility (descriptive) 4) Plaid Power (rather Scottish a compliment on MacGregor, I guess he's Scottish) What one do you think is best? Cheers, Ed Gordon Name her "Tranny." |
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On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 16:21:52 -0400, "Ed Gordon"
wrote this crap: Well, I did it. I'm now the proud re-owner of a Mac 26X and a fine one she is if I must say so myself. I got her at a real bargain basement price, yes siree! Before I launch her for the first time I've got a couple things I want to do. First is to rename her. I don't like the present name at all. I'm torn between a couple of different names. What one do you think is best? Cheers, Ed Gordon The Dumpster. The ****can. The Toilet. I could put a sail and a motor on a dumpster and have a boat that would outsail and out motor you. This post is 100% free of steroids |
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On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 16:21:52 -0400, "Ed Gordon"
wrote: Well, I did it. I'm now the proud re-owner of a Mac 26X and a fine one she is if I must say so myself. I got her at a real bargain basement price, yes siree! Before I launch her for the first time I've got a couple things I want to do. First is to rename her. I don't like the present name at all. I'm torn between a couple of different names. 1) Symbiosis (comment on how well sail and power are built into one boat) 2) Sea's Son (double entendre) 3) Sensibility (descriptive) 4) Plaid Power (rather Scottish a compliment on MacGregor, I guess he's Scottish) What one do you think is best? Cheers, Ed Gordon A name that's not identifiably female on a sailing vessel? I don't think so! Brian Whatcott Altus OK |
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Horvath wrote:
The Dumpster. The ****can. The Toilet. Ed, Ignore the negative hyperbole some will attack you with. The Mac serves it's niche well but some can't understand that just because a boat isn't a good fit for them, it can be a great boat for someone else. That being said, if you'll permit, I'll offer a bit of advice. Take baby steps. Extend your range and the conditions you expose yourself too just a little bit at a time. Before long, you'll be amazed at what you are doing. I've owned a variety of boats over the years, including a Mac (though not the 26X). The Mac really isn't all boats to all people. There are things it is just not designed or constructed to do. For instance, just because it may be possible to cross an ocean with the Mac, doesn't mean that it's a good idea. You can, however have a heck of a lot of fun with it. Dan Best S/V Tricia Jean, Tayana 37 #192 |
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1) Symbiosis (comment on how well sail and power are built into one boat) 2) Sea's Son (double entendre) 3) Sensibility (descriptive) 4) Plaid Power (rather Scottish a compliment on MacGregor, I guess he's Scottish) MacGregor lives in California, I suspect he's American not Scottish. Dave M. |
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I got her at a real bargain basement price, yes siree!
That sort of says it all. |
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On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 16:21:52 -0400, "Ed Gordon"
wrote: First is to rename her. I don't like the present name at all. Yes, that will make her substantially more sea worthy. We spent a couple of gnarly days going north in the gulf stream a few weeks ago. You'll be right at home out there with a new name on the boat. Let me suggest a couple: "Holy sh*t" "Sinking Sensation" "Wok'n'roll" "This End Up" "Leaky Tiki" |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 16:21:52 -0400, "Ed Gordon" wrote: First is to rename her. I don't like the present name at all. Yes, that will make her substantially more sea worthy. We spent a couple of gnarly days going north in the gulf stream a few weeks ago. You'll be right at home out there with a new name on the boat. Let me suggest a couple: "Holy sh*t" "Sinking Sensation" "Wok'n'roll" "This End Up" "Leaky Tiki" Thanks but no thanks. Those names are stupid sounding. I've got it down to between "Sensibility" or "Symbiosis". People who give a boat a joke name end up being a joke themselves. I want my boat to have a respectful name. I think either of these two names fit a Mac26X and show respect too. I just wrote a post that smacked down Bobsprit. Ever notice the stupid sounding names he puts on his boats? Circus side show stuff. Stuff that don't make a lick of sense. Stuff that if he had to say it on the VHF to get pulled off when he ran aground that would embarrass him to death. Well, maybe not him but somebody with a brain for sure would be embarrassed all the way. Cheers, Ed Gordon |
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"Dan Best" wrote in message ... Horvath wrote: The Dumpster. The ****can. The Toilet. Ed, Ignore the negative hyperbole some will attack you with. The Mac serves it's niche well but some can't understand that just because a boat isn't a good fit for them, it can be a great boat for someone else. That being said, if you'll permit, I'll offer a bit of advice. Take baby steps. Extend your range and the conditions you expose yourself too just a little bit at a time. Before long, you'll be amazed at what you are doing. I've owned a variety of boats over the years, including a Mac (though not the 26X). The Mac really isn't all boats to all people. There are things it is just not designed or constructed to do. For instance, just because it may be possible to cross an ocean with the Mac, doesn't mean that it's a good idea. You can, however have a heck of a lot of fun with it. Dan Best S/V Tricia Jean, Tayana 37 #192 Thanks for the sensible advice, sir. It's not easy to find around here with all the jackasses running their mouths. Anyway, I'm an experienced Mac26X sailor. Used to own and sail one about ten years ago. They have their good points and a few minor bad points that can be fixed up. You could cross an ocean in a pinch if you had to but they ain't made for that. They're made for shorter trips and week-ending. They're them most versatile boat made. Mass production boat at any rate. Cheers, Ed Gordon |
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"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message ... On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 16:21:52 -0400, "Ed Gordon" wrote: Well, I did it. I'm now the proud re-owner of a Mac 26X and a fine one she is if I must say so myself. I got her at a real bargain basement price, yes siree! Before I launch her for the first time I've got a couple things I want to do. First is to rename her. I don't like the present name at all. I'm torn between a couple of different names. 1) Symbiosis (comment on how well sail and power are built into one boat) 2) Sea's Son (double entendre) 3) Sensibility (descriptive) 4) Plaid Power (rather Scottish a compliment on MacGregor, I guess he's Scottish) What one do you think is best? Cheers, Ed Gordon A name that's not identifiably female on a sailing vessel? I don't think so! Brian Whatcott Altus OK Female names are for ships of the line like in the old English wooden navy days. Everybody knows a Mac26X is not a female. People who sail Mac's don't usually give them girly names. Mac's need practical names that describe how they are or what they can do. That's why I'm leaning towards calling mine "Sensibility" or "Symbiosis". Girl's names are better for the traditional boats that have the old fashioned sheer lines and the wine glass transom shape. They look like they have a rounded female shape. A Mac26X has a shape more like a man. Like a body builder. Angular and square and powerful lines is what a Mac26X is all about. Cheers, Ed Gordon |
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Ed Gordon wrote:
People who give a boat a joke name end up being a joke themselves. Ed, Don't be too quick to condemn such names. Our two previous boats were named "Clueless" (MacGregor 25) and "Still Clueless" (Catalina 30) and they worked very well for us. The names not only kept us from taking ourselves too seriously, but it seemed as though other boats gave us a little slack when we did something stupid. We had always envisioned naming the big boat when we finally got her "Tre Clueless", but when push came to shove, it was just too classy a boat to hang such a moniker on. Dan Best "Tricia Jean", Tayana 37 #192 |
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"Ed Gordon" wrote in message ... Female names are for ships of the line like in the old English wooden navy days. Yes, right. You mean names like 'Indomitable', 'Victory', 'Invincible', 'Nonsuch', 'Terror', 'Formidable' and suchlike I assume. Women like that would scare the hell out of me. |
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"Edgar" wrote in message ... "Ed Gordon" wrote in message ... Female names are for ships of the line like in the old English wooden navy days. Yes, right. You mean names like 'Indomitable', 'Victory', 'Invincible', 'Nonsuch', 'Terror', 'Formidable' and suchlike I assume. Women like that would scare the hell out of me. Good to know that you know your place in the grand scheme of things. "Formidable Karin" :-D |
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Edgar wrote:
Yes, right. You mean names like 'Indomitable', 'Victory', 'Invincible', 'Nonsuch', 'Terror', 'Formidable' and suchlike I assume. Women like that would scare the hell out of me. You missed the ever popular "Dreadnought". |
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"Steve Thrasher" wrote in message ... Edgar wrote: Yes, right. You mean names like 'Indomitable', 'Victory', 'Invincible', 'Nonsuch', 'Terror', 'Formidable' and suchlike I assume. Women like that would scare the hell out of me. You missed the ever popular "Dreadnought". "Dreadnought"is a generic term for large war ships, not a name. |
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On Jul 5, 3:38 pm, "Capt. Lewry" wrote:
"Steve Thrasher" wrote in message ... Edgar wrote: Yes, right. You mean names like 'Indomitable', 'Victory', 'Invincible', 'Nonsuch', 'Terror', 'Formidable' and suchlike I assume. Women like that would scare the hell out of me. You missed the ever popular "Dreadnought". "Dreadnought"is a generic term for large war ships, not a name. No kidding? What a shock. I must've opened the wrong Schrodinger box and now I'm in a different quantum. Where I come from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Dreadnought_(1906) |
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Capt. Lewry wrote:
"Dreadnought"is a generic term for large war ships, not a name. http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/s...-d/drednt9.htm |
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On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:59:33 -0400, "Ed Gordon"
wrote: Thanks but no thanks. Those names are stupid sounding. Sorry, I was trying to think of "descriptive" names for a small boat not built for blue water sailing but out there anyway. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:59:33 -0400, "Ed Gordon" wrote: Thanks but no thanks. Those names are stupid sounding. Sorry, I was trying to think of "descriptive" names for a small boat not built for blue water sailing but out there anyway. "Miss Tayke" |
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On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 21:04:03 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
wrote: Sorry, I was trying to think of "descriptive" names for a small boat not built for blue water sailing but out there anyway. "Miss Tayke" Heh, good one. |
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On Jul 1, 1:21 pm, "Ed Gordon" wrote:
Well, I did it. I'm now the proud re-owner of a Mac 26X and a fine one she is if I must say so myself. I got her at a real bargain basement price, yes siree! Before I launch her for the first time I've got a couple things I want to do. First is to rename her. I don't like the present name at all. I'm torn between a couple of different names. 1) Symbiosis (comment on how well sail and power are built into one boat) 2) Sea's Son (double entendre) 3) Sensibility (descriptive) 4) Plaid Power (rather Scottish a compliment on MacGregor, I guess he's Scottish) What one do you think is best? Dont forget the ever popular: Blow Job Wet Spot Breakin WInd etc.............. Bob |
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"Ed Gordon" wrote in message ... I've got it down to between "Senseless" or "Stupidity". I think either of these two names fit a Mac26X it says more about the sailor, than the boat. |
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As long as we are casting about for names, I was/am considering
"Surprise." I read about U.S.S. Surprise in an article about the Tacoma class U.S. Navy vessels and liked the name. This was many many years before before I had seen or read the fine Patrick O'Brian novels. Some will surely comment on a lack of originality, but I have come to the conclusion that if I like the name, that's all that really matters. Perhaps its it is a succinct homily on the required ability needed to make impromptu boat repairs. Blue skies, John |
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"John" wrote in message ups.com... As long as we are casting about for names, I was/am considering "Surprise." I read about U.S.S. Surprise in an article about the Tacoma class U.S. Navy vessels and liked the name. This was many many years before before I had seen or read the fine Patrick O'Brian novels. Some will surely comment on a lack of originality, but I have come to the conclusion that if I like the name, that's all that really matters. Perhaps its it is a succinct homily on the required ability needed to make impromptu boat repairs. Blue skies, John Of course, anyone hailing you will sound like Gomer Pyle... "Surprise, surprise, surprise! This is Gomer, over." |
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John wrote:
As long as we are casting about for names, I was/am considering "Surprise." I read about U.S.S. Surprise in an article about the Tacoma class U.S. Navy vessels and liked the name. This was many many years before before I had seen or read the fine Patrick O'Brian novels. Some will surely comment on a lack of originality, but I have come to the conclusion that if I like the name, that's all that really matters. Perhaps its it is a succinct homily on the required ability needed to make impromptu boat repairs. Blue skies, John Aw, no fair. I'm saving that one for my next boat... Richard |
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I hate to confuse you with semantics, but you might want to look up the precise meaning of "symbiosis". Does not apply. I thought "this end up" was a good suggestion for a boat that needs awareness of how much ballast is where at any given point in time. (Depending on your sense of humor, sure not if you are superstitious.) If you intend to support your statements on the Ocean Crossing capabilities of the McGregor, I would suggest "Vera". (Latin for "True".) True Sailboat, True motorboat, true Blue Water Sailer, you say. Also seen in literature as a boats name, check it out. On Jul 5, 5:59 am, "Ed Gordon" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message Thanks but no thanks. Those names are stupid sounding. I've got it down to between "Sensibility" or "Symbiosis". People who give a boat a joke name end up being a joke themselves. I want my boat to have a respectful name. I think either of these two names fit a Mac26X and show respect too. I just wrote a post that smacked down Bobsprit. Ever notice the stupid sounding names he puts on his boats? Circus side show stuff. Stuff that don't make a lick of sense. Stuff that if he had to say it on the VHF to get pulled off when he ran aground that would embarrass him to death. Well, maybe not him but somebody with a brain for sure would be embarrassed all the way. Cheers, Ed Gordon |
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wrote in message oups.com... I hate to confuse you with semantics, but you might want to look up the precise meaning of "symbiosis". Does not apply. I thought "this end up" was a good suggestion for a boat that needs awareness of how much ballast is where at any given point in time. (Depending on your sense of humor, sure not if you are superstitious.) If you intend to support your statements on the Ocean Crossing capabilities of the McGregor, I would suggest "Vera". (Latin for "True".) True Sailboat, True motorboat, true Blue Water Sailer, you say. Also seen in literature as a boats name, check it out. "In Aeolo Veritas" |
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wrote in message oups.com.. .. If you intend to support your statements on the Ocean Crossing capabilities of the McGregor, I would suggest "Vera". (Latin for "True".) what's Latin for ''POS that doesn't belong on the ocean''? SV |
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Scotty wrote:
wrote in message oups.com.. . If you intend to support your statements on the Ocean Crossing capabilities of the McGregor, I would suggest "Vera". (Latin for "True".) what's Latin for ''POS that doesn't belong on the ocean''? SV "Pars excrementi, quae non oportet esse in mari." |
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:24:08 -0700, Alan Gomes wrote
this crap: what's Latin for ''POS that doesn't belong on the ocean''? "Pars excrementi, quae non oportet esse in mari." Close! "Mare." I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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Horvath wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:24:08 -0700, Alan Gomes wrote this crap: what's Latin for ''POS that doesn't belong on the ocean''? "Pars excrementi, quae non oportet esse in mari." Close! "Mare." I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. Nope. The ablative for "sea" is "mari," not "mare." --AG |
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:03:40 -0700, Alan Gomes wrote
this crap: Horvath wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:24:08 -0700, Alan Gomes wrote this crap: what's Latin for ''POS that doesn't belong on the ocean''? "Pars excrementi, quae non oportet esse in mari." Close! "Mare." Nope. The ablative for "sea" is "mari," not "mare." You said, "in Mari," the "in" puts it in the accusative case, not ablative. And "esse" should have been in the back. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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Horvath, in w/ acc: direction in w/ abl: location = Ablative. If you throw something in marem, then it in mare est. Don't know about the -i locativ. And, btw, "piece of" does not translate to "Pars something-i". :) On Jul 21, 5:39 pm, Horvath wrote: On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:03:40 -0700, Alan Gomes wrote this crap: Horvath wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:24:08 -0700, Alan Gomes wrote this crap: what's Latin for ''POS that doesn't belong on the ocean''? "Pars excrementi, quae non oportet esse in mari." Close! "Mare." Nope. The ablative for "sea" is "mari," not "mare." You said, "in Mari," the "in" puts it in the accusative case, not ablative. And "esse" should have been in the back. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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Horvath wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:03:40 -0700, Alan Gomes wrote this crap: Horvath wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:24:08 -0700, Alan Gomes wrote this crap: what's Latin for ''POS that doesn't belong on the ocean''? "Pars excrementi, quae non oportet esse in mari." Close! "Mare." Nope. The ablative for "sea" is "mari," not "mare." You said, "in Mari," the "in" puts it in the accusative case, not ablative. And "esse" should have been in the back. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. Brian's comment: I wasn't miffed. Honest....:-) Anyway, the way I wrote it was correct. It is "in mare." "In" as a preposition with a noun in the ablative case can (among its possible meanings) mean "on." Though with a Mac 26X it could well be that it's meaning with the accusative ("into") could work also. ;-) "Mari" is the ablative for "sea." This word does not follow the normal 3rd declension pattern for ablatives. (If my memory serves me, this is called an "i-stem" noun, but my Latin grammar is not in front of me as I write this and I am going by memory.) Vale, Alan |
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Brian Whatcott wrote:
Scotty (SV) asked: what's Latin for ''POS that doesn't belong on the ocean''? Alan Gomes responded with finesse: "Pars excrementi, quae non oportet esse in mari." Horvath interjected in a scholarly way: Close! "Mare." Alan Gomes, somewhat miffed, contradicted in this way: Nope. The ablative for "sea" is "mari," not "mare." --AG So I looked it up..... ...from About.com: Latin nouns of the third declension (such as mare) here are the consonantal endings. The endings of the Third declension masculine or feminine/neuter are singular nominative -/- genitive -is/-is dative -i/-i accusative -em/- ablative -e/-e plural nominative -es/-a genitive -um/-um dative -ibus/-ibus accusative -es/-a ablative -ibus/-ibus Using rex, regis, m. (king), here is the paradigm: singular Nominative - rex Genitive - regis Dative - regi Accusative - regem Ablative - rege Locative regi or rege Vocative rex The facts speak in favor of Horvath, it appears for the ablative. Perhaps Gomes had in mind the locative? Brian Whatcott Altus OK Brian, I replied to the rest of this elsewhere. But I did not intend the locative. But if I had, it would still be "mari," since I think the locative follows the same endings as the dative, and the dative for mari is the same form as is the ablative for mari. Cheers, Alan |
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Horvath wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:03:40 -0700, Alan Gomes wrote this crap: Horvath wrote: On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:24:08 -0700, Alan Gomes wrote this crap: what's Latin for ''POS that doesn't belong on the ocean''? "Pars excrementi, quae non oportet esse in mari." Close! "Mare." Nope. The ablative for "sea" is "mari," not "mare." You said, "in Mari," the "in" puts it in the accusative case, not ablative. And "esse" should have been in the back. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. "In" can go with either the ablative or the accusative, with a difference in meaning, of course. Esse could be at the end, though it need not be. --AG |
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