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Vic Smith June 23rd 07 03:30 PM

OT: Converting Diesel engines to burn Bio-fuel
 
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:41:27 +0000, Larry wrote:


The 411 was very dangerous to own. The top of the engine was sealed to
the body under a sealing cover under the back floor. Its analog fuel
injection had a fixed manifold with rubber hoses between them and the
injectors at about 50psi in the hot engine compartment all sealed up.
The rubber failed, miserably, and poured hot gas over the hot metal
sealed in the hot compartment, a real explosion hazard INSIDE the cabin
of the car if it blew the lid off, burning all the occupants to death.

The second time it happened...in there with the ignition HV and POINTS
sparking in the gas fumes, I dumped it and that was the end of the
Volkswagens...as you can imagine. You could smell the fumes, luckily,
but that was always in the boondocks when it blew.

While my Squareback wasn't dangerous per se, I never could get a good
seal on the engine cover, and the blow-by stink always made my nose
feel like it was a foot away from a breather. And as I much as I
liked the gas heater, more than once I pondered the fact that gasoline
was being pumped across a glow plug a couple feet in front of my face.
A few other issues put the '67 Squareback in a tie with a '71 Chevy
Nova 307 as the most disagreeable cars I've owned.

--Vic

Vic Smith June 23rd 07 03:33 PM

OT: Converting Diesel engines to burn Bio-fuel
 
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:42:29 +0000, Larry wrote:

"Don White" wrote in
:

My brother was a big VW fan. He had numerous 'bugs', an orange
'squareback', a 68 bus and even the 'Thing'.
I bought a '72 Super Beetle brand new and kept it 5 years. That was
enough for me.


Did any of you guys own an automatic stick shift beetle? I had one of
those. The clutch was a button in the top of the stick shift.

No, mine were manuals. Pretty long-lived. Since you had to pull the
engine to change the clutch out, a good thing.

--Vic

Larry June 24th 07 02:02 AM

OT: Converting Diesel engines to burn Bio-fuel
 
Vic Smith wrote in
:

was being pumped across a glow plug a couple feet in front of my face.


It wasn't a glowplug! It was a SPARKPLUG! I know how you feel. But the
spark was keeping it going. The alternative was BOOM! if it went out...(c;

Larry
--
http://www.spp.gov/
The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP


Larry June 24th 07 02:17 AM

OT: Converting Diesel engines to burn Bio-fuel
 
Vic Smith wrote in
:

Since you had to pull the
engine to change the clutch out, a good thing.



That wasn't much of a big deal IF you had the proper engine stand to put
under it on the lift. The dealers pulled them out for the simplest of
reasons.

I was in the Volkswagen Analog Computer Repair Business for a while when
I owned the 411 wagon. My 411 just stopped for no reason in the middle
of traffic. The towtruck took it back to its dealer, with me in a bad
mood. "It's the computer.", the service manager said flatly. He never
even looked at it. He already knew what the problem was. So, I got a
new "computer", an analog device that squirted fuel into its gullet
electrically. It wasn't much of a "computer", nothing digital, just hard
parts! I commandeered my old computer from him before he threw it into a
large pile of computers in a big box in the parts department. LOTS of
computers were tits up, it seemed. No schematic available, of course, I
took it back to my office and pulled it apart and drew my own. I tested
the simple transistors with my Radio Shack in-circuit transistor tester
and found one open, base to collector. I replaced the transistor with a
garden variety 2N2222 that was, in quantity, about 8c in those days. I
swapped it out under the driver's seat and my 411 wagon cranked right up.
I ran it on my home-repaired box, keeping the OEM box as a spare in the
car, just in case. I never had any more trouble with it.

Next time I had it serviced, I told the service manager about my repair,
carefully NOT telling him I knew what was wrong with, at least, my
computer box. "Would you like to repair some more?", he asked. "Sure.",
I replied. I took home about 200 dead boxes from his collection. I went
straight to that one transistor and they were all blown. I replaced a
bunch with 2N2222 generic NPNs and tested them in my 411, all good.

We came to an agreement at $50/unit to repair them. 2 other dealers sent
me their "collections". Anyone trying to pry information about my
repairs got nothing. I'm not shooting my foot. It was easy to open the
box and look at the transistor I replaced. In the next couple of years,
I made a tidy sum out of the repairs from the 3 dealers in just spare
time. I hired some of my tech school students to work on them on
weekends as they backed up. As the model ended, repairs slowed down and
I moved to a better job on the road with Navy contractors so the shop
closed. Every unit but about 3 had all the same blown part....too much
Ic for the little German transistor they were using, melted its
collector. 2N2222 worked great...(c;

Larry
--
http://www.spp.gov/
The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP


Vic Smith June 24th 07 03:39 AM

OT: Converting Diesel engines to burn Bio-fuel
 
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 01:17:35 +0000, Larry wrote:

Vic Smith wrote in
:

Since you had to pull the
engine to change the clutch out, a good thing.


That wasn't much of a big deal IF you had the proper engine stand to put
under it on the lift. The dealers pulled them out for the simplest of
reasons.

I had no trouble using just a wheeled floor jack. Once the transaxle
splines are clear of the pressure plate you just lower the engine then
push it off the jack and onto the floor. Then jack up the car's rear
end enough to drag the engine clear. All light duty stuff, no lift
required. Maybe 1/2 an hour after you've done it once.
It's a PITA if the jack is in sand though, which situation I let
myself get into once.

I was in the Volkswagen Analog Computer Repair Business for a while when
I owned the 411 wagon. My 411 just stopped for no reason in the middle
of traffic. The towtruck took it back to its dealer, with me in a bad
mood. "It's the computer.", the service manager said flatly. He never
even looked at it. He already knew what the problem was. So, I got a
new "computer", an analog device that squirted fuel into its gullet
electrically. It wasn't much of a "computer", nothing digital, just hard
parts! I commandeered my old computer from him before he threw it into a
large pile of computers in a big box in the parts department. LOTS of
computers were tits up, it seemed. No schematic available, of course, I
took it back to my office and pulled it apart and drew my own. I tested
the simple transistors with my Radio Shack in-circuit transistor tester
and found one open, base to collector. I replaced the transistor with a
garden variety 2N2222 that was, in quantity, about 8c in those days. I
swapped it out under the driver's seat and my 411 wagon cranked right up.
I ran it on my home-repaired box, keeping the OEM box as a spare in the
car, just in case. I never had any more trouble with it.

Next time I had it serviced, I told the service manager about my repair,
carefully NOT telling him I knew what was wrong with, at least, my
computer box. "Would you like to repair some more?", he asked. "Sure.",
I replied. I took home about 200 dead boxes from his collection. I went
straight to that one transistor and they were all blown. I replaced a
bunch with 2N2222 generic NPNs and tested them in my 411, all good.

We came to an agreement at $50/unit to repair them. 2 other dealers sent
me their "collections". Anyone trying to pry information about my
repairs got nothing. I'm not shooting my foot. It was easy to open the
box and look at the transistor I replaced. In the next couple of years,
I made a tidy sum out of the repairs from the 3 dealers in just spare
time. I hired some of my tech school students to work on them on
weekends as they backed up. As the model ended, repairs slowed down and
I moved to a better job on the road with Navy contractors so the shop
closed. Every unit but about 3 had all the same blown part....too much
Ic for the little German transistor they were using, melted its
collector. 2N2222 worked great...(c;

Cool. Sometimes I wish I learned more about electronics, but my color
perception kept me on wrenches. I'll just refer to your posts when I
need electronics advice.

--Vic

Capt. Lewry June 24th 07 01:53 PM

OT: Converting Diesel engines to burn Bio-fuel
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 01:17:35 +0000, Larry wrote:

Vic Smith wrote in
m:

Since you had to pull the
engine to change the clutch out, a good thing.


That wasn't much of a big deal IF you had the proper engine stand to put
under it on the lift. The dealers pulled them out for the simplest of
reasons.

I had no trouble using just a wheeled floor jack. Once the transaxle
splines are clear of the pressure plate you just lower the engine then
push it off the jack and onto the floor. Then jack up the car's rear
end enough to drag the engine clear. All light duty stuff, no lift
required. Maybe 1/2 an hour after you've done it once.
It's a PITA if the jack is in sand though, which situation I let
myself get into once.

I was in the Volkswagen Analog Computer Repair Business for a while when
I owned the 411 wagon. My 411 just stopped for no reason in the middle
of traffic. The towtruck took it back to its dealer, with me in a bad
mood. "It's the computer.", the service manager said flatly. He never
even looked at it. He already knew what the problem was. So, I got a
new "computer", an analog device that squirted fuel into its gullet
electrically. It wasn't much of a "computer", nothing digital, just hard
parts! I commandeered my old computer from him before he threw it into a
large pile of computers in a big box in the parts department. LOTS of
computers were tits up, it seemed. No schematic available, of course, I
took it back to my office and pulled it apart and drew my own. I tested
the simple transistors with my Radio Shack in-circuit transistor tester
and found one open, base to collector. I replaced the transistor with a
garden variety 2N2222 that was, in quantity, about 8c in those days. I
swapped it out under the driver's seat and my 411 wagon cranked right up.
I ran it on my home-repaired box, keeping the OEM box as a spare in the
car, just in case. I never had any more trouble with it.

Next time I had it serviced, I told the service manager about my repair,
carefully NOT telling him I knew what was wrong with, at least, my
computer box. "Would you like to repair some more?", he asked. "Sure.",
I replied. I took home about 200 dead boxes from his collection. I went
straight to that one transistor and they were all blown. I replaced a
bunch with 2N2222 generic NPNs and tested them in my 411, all good.

We came to an agreement at $50/unit to repair them. 2 other dealers sent
me their "collections". Anyone trying to pry information about my
repairs got nothing. I'm not shooting my foot. It was easy to open the
box and look at the transistor I replaced. In the next couple of years,
I made a tidy sum out of the repairs from the 3 dealers in just spare
time. I hired some of my tech school students to work on them on
weekends as they backed up. As the model ended, repairs slowed down and
I moved to a better job on the road with Navy contractors so the shop
closed. Every unit but about 3 had all the same blown part....too much
Ic for the little German transistor they were using, melted its
collector. 2N2222 worked great...(c;

Cool. Sometimes I wish I learned more about electronics, but my color
perception kept me on wrenches. I'll just refer to your posts when I
need electronics advice.

--Vic


Vic, bad boys rape all our young girls, but Violet gives willingly, get some
now.



Leanne June 25th 07 02:24 AM

OT: Converting Diesel engines to burn Bio-fuel
 

"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
t...

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 01:17:35 +0000, Larry wrote:

Vic Smith wrote in
:

Since you had to pull the
engine to change the clutch out, a good thing.

That wasn't much of a big deal IF you had the proper engine stand to put
under it on the lift. The dealers pulled them out for the simplest of
reasons.

I had no trouble using just a wheeled floor jack. Once the transaxle
splines are clear of the pressure plate you just lower the engine then
push it off the jack and onto the floor. Then jack up the car's rear
end enough to drag the engine clear. All light duty stuff, no lift
required. Maybe 1/2 an hour after you've done it once.
It's a PITA if the jack is in sand though, which situation I let
myself get into once.

I was in the Volkswagen Analog Computer Repair Business for a while when
I owned the 411 wagon. My 411 just stopped for no reason in the middle
of traffic. The towtruck took it back to its dealer, with me in a bad
mood. "It's the computer.", the service manager said flatly. He never
even looked at it. He already knew what the problem was. So, I got a
new "computer", an analog device that squirted fuel into its gullet
electrically. It wasn't much of a "computer", nothing digital, just hard
parts! I commandeered my old computer from him before he threw it into a
large pile of computers in a big box in the parts department. LOTS of
computers were tits up, it seemed. No schematic available, of course, I
took it back to my office and pulled it apart and drew my own. I tested
the simple transistors with my Radio Shack in-circuit transistor tester
and found one open, base to collector. I replaced the transistor with a
garden variety 2N2222 that was, in quantity, about 8c in those days. I
swapped it out under the driver's seat and my 411 wagon cranked right up.
I ran it on my home-repaired box, keeping the OEM box as a spare in the
car, just in case. I never had any more trouble with it.

Next time I had it serviced, I told the service manager about my repair,
carefully NOT telling him I knew what was wrong with, at least, my
computer box. "Would you like to repair some more?", he asked. "Sure.",
I replied. I took home about 200 dead boxes from his collection. I went
straight to that one transistor and they were all blown. I replaced a
bunch with 2N2222 generic NPNs and tested them in my 411, all good.

We came to an agreement at $50/unit to repair them. 2 other dealers sent
me their "collections". Anyone trying to pry information about my
repairs got nothing. I'm not shooting my foot. It was easy to open the
box and look at the transistor I replaced. In the next couple of years,
I made a tidy sum out of the repairs from the 3 dealers in just spare
time. I hired some of my tech school students to work on them on
weekends as they backed up. As the model ended, repairs slowed down and
I moved to a better job on the road with Navy contractors so the shop
closed. Every unit but about 3 had all the same blown part....too much
Ic for the little German transistor they were using, melted its
collector. 2N2222 worked great...(c;

Cool. Sometimes I wish I learned more about electronics, but my color
perception kept me on wrenches. I'll just refer to your posts when I
need electronics advice.

--Vic


Vic, bad boys rape all our young girls, but Violet gives willingly, get
some now.


Larry, The way we taught it was Violet gives willingly for gold or silver.
Now don't ask about Oscar in the trig functions. Teaching was fun, but it
got old at
TCL ( Technical College of the Low Country). At NATTC, I had a captive
audience and
they had the incentive to learn the avionics stuff or end up as paint
chippers on some tin can.

Leanne

Leanne


Leanne June 25th 07 02:26 AM

OT: Converting Diesel engines to burn Bio-fuel
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Vic Smith wrote in
:

was being pumped across a glow plug a couple feet in front of my face.


It wasn't a glowplug! It was a SPARKPLUG! I know how you feel. But the
spark was keeping it going. The alternative was BOOM! if it went
out...(c;

Larry


Several years back, Ambulances were gas burners as well as having the gas
heaters. After a few of them burned, they switched to diesel.

Leanne


Vic Smith June 25th 07 03:45 AM

OT: Converting Diesel engines to burn Bio-fuel
 
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:24:19 -0400, "Leanne" wrote:


"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
et...

"Vic Smith" wrote in message



Cool. Sometimes I wish I learned more about electronics, but my color
perception kept me on wrenches. I'll just refer to your posts when I
need electronics advice.

--Vic


Vic, bad boys rape all our young girls, but Violet gives willingly, get
some now.


Larry, The way we taught it was Violet gives willingly for gold or silver.
Now don't ask about Oscar in the trig functions. Teaching was fun, but it
got old at
TCL ( Technical College of the Low Country). At NATTC, I had a captive
audience and
they had the incentive to learn the avionics stuff or end up as paint
chippers on some tin can.

Thanks for that follow-up Leanne. Not knowing Capt. Lewry I had first
assumed he was casting lewd remarks in my direction - nothing new, BTW
- but now understand that it was simply an electronics mnemonics aid.
Neat, and I have in fact read resistor codes while consulting a nearby
guide, this to solder in some kind of cheat modification to my son's
Sony playstation. Not having experience in circuit board soldering,
I melted the damn innards. That's ok, because I then insisted he play
games on a PC and he's never looked back, saving me (or him) lots
of money on future game boxes. He has PC emulators for those games.
To set you straight on tin cans, I spent 3 1/2 years gunkholing on one
in places that carriers could only dream of.
That more than compensated for a bit of paint chipping.
Carrier crews turned ports of call into tourist traps, increasing
liberty costs steeply, while even small ports easily absorbed our
crew. In keeping with the family values of the group, I won't outline
those costs.
It was always a disappointment to see a CV anchored at
a port. High prices. Too many drunks. And jarheads.

--Vic

Gordon June 25th 07 04:19 AM

OT: Converting Diesel engines to burn Bio-fuel
 

It was always a disappointment to see a CV anchored at
a port. High prices. Too many drunks. And jarheads.

--Vic


Can always tell when a jarhead has been at your house. Your shoes are
shined and your dog is pregnant! Just kidding, sort of!
G


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