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where do you get the bio?




"Jere Lull" wrote in message
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On 2007-06-19 11:15:39 -0400, Joe
said:

We have a 2GM20F, about 15 years old, that we regularly
run at up to
60% Bio. Motor runs smoother, starts easier, and
definitely smells a
heck of a lot better.

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On Jun 21, 7:41 pm, "Scotty" wrote:
where do you get the bio?

"Jere Lull" wrote in message

news:2007062120111016807-jerelull@maccom... On 2007-06-19 11:15:39 -0400, Joe

said:





We have a 2GM20F, about 15 years old, that we regularly
run at up to
60% Bio. Motor runs smoother, starts easier, and
definitely smells a
heck of a lot better.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Here we have Houston Bio-Fuels..10 cheaper than diesel.

You can go he http://hypebot.typepad.com/hypebot/i...cornerlogo.jpg

Joe

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On 2007-06-21 20:41:35 -0400, "Scotty" said:

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
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We have a 2GM20F, about 15 years old, that we regularly run at up to
60% Bio. Motor runs smoother, starts easier, and definitely smells a
heck of a lot better.

where do you get the bio?

A local fuel supplier that I found in a search. I don't have their info
with me, and it wouldn't do any good unless you're in the Philly area,
anyway. (I have it at work, though.)

Among other things, they supply bio to construction sites. Expect
there's a charge for that, but I can show up and they'll fill my
container.

About a decade ago, there was a bio pump at the dock at Kent Narrows.
Unluckily, I learned about it the season after they shut it down. For a
while, I could get 1 and 5-gallon jugs of it at a few docks, but that
dried up.

I intend to ask for availability as I cruise around. Perhaps they'll
get the hint.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
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Vic Smith wrote in
:

You remember the Bug in the '60's. All over the place.
Had one myself Might see a repeat with another Kraut car.
Especially if gas goes to 4-5 bucks.
Should be interesting anyway.

--Vic



I had a string of VWs. 3 bugs, 411 wagon, 2 Kombi campers, one bus...all
great vehicles, but way too much maintenance on the air cooled pancake
engines. All that valve adjusting was way too much.

Larry
--
http://www.spp.gov/
The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP

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"Jere Lull" wrote in message
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On 2007-06-21 20:41:35 -0400, "Scotty"
said:

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2007062120111016807-jerelull@maccom...

We have a 2GM20F, about 15 years old, that we regularly
run at up to
60% Bio. Motor runs smoother, starts easier, and
definitely smells a
heck of a lot better.

where do you get the bio?

A local fuel supplier that I found in a search. I don't
have their info
with me, and it wouldn't do any good unless you're in the
Philly area,
anyway. (I have it at work, though.)

Which I am. I thought you were getting it on the Bay
somewhere.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:33:00 +0000, Larry wrote:

I had a string of VWs. 3 bugs, 411 wagon, 2 Kombi campers, one bus...all
great vehicles, but way too much maintenance on the air cooled pancake
engines. All that valve adjusting was way too much.

Had to rebuild mine after the jugs got too big inside. Think I paid
@50 bucks for new jugs with pistons and rings already in them.
Easy job rebuilding them, ground the valves with a reversing drill.
Those engines had a natural life of @60-70k in captivity - the
maintenance you mentioned.
Besides, most I could squeeze out of it was 29 mpg highway.
But the full-sized crap was getting 10-15 mpg, so it was cheap to
run/fix - and easy to park! Mine was a '64. 6 volt.
Had a '67 Squareback too - POS. But it was nice to hear its gas
heater take off like a jet and start steaming up the windows.

--Vic

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:33:00 +0000, Larry wrote:

I had a string of VWs. 3 bugs, 411 wagon, 2 Kombi campers, one bus...all
great vehicles, but way too much maintenance on the air cooled pancake
engines. All that valve adjusting was way too much.

Had to rebuild mine after the jugs got too big inside. Think I paid
@50 bucks for new jugs with pistons and rings already in them.
Easy job rebuilding them, ground the valves with a reversing drill.
Those engines had a natural life of @60-70k in captivity - the
maintenance you mentioned.
Besides, most I could squeeze out of it was 29 mpg highway.
But the full-sized crap was getting 10-15 mpg, so it was cheap to
run/fix - and easy to park! Mine was a '64. 6 volt.
Had a '67 Squareback too - POS. But it was nice to hear its gas
heater take off like a jet and start steaming up the windows.

--Vic


My brother was a big VW fan. He had numerous 'bugs', an orange
'squareback', a 68 bus and even the 'Thing'.
I bought a '72 Super Beetle brand new and kept it 5 years. That was enough
for me.

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Vic Smith wrote in
:

Had a '67 Squareback too - POS. But it was nice to hear its gas
heater take off like a jet and start steaming up the windows.



My 411 station wagon had the gas heater in it...and I was really glad!
South Carolina was hit by a freak snow storm that brought this place to a
standstill as they have no way of removing FEET of snow, back in the
early 70's. The trucks skidding and flipping over stuck us in Santee,
SC, where I-95 crosses Lake Marion for 3 days. I spent my days trudging
with a 2 gallon gascan to the truckstop for gas, then back the mile or so
to my GAS HEATED little station wagon to put it in the tank. My feet
were wrapped in towels from the towel outlet store for warmth and
traction as I had on smooth sole street loafers, hardly fit for snow. We
stayed warm all night with the gas heater and intermittent engine running
to recharge in our place in line. Met lots of great people in the same
boat (on topic!)...(c;

The 411 was very dangerous to own. The top of the engine was sealed to
the body under a sealing cover under the back floor. Its analog fuel
injection had a fixed manifold with rubber hoses between them and the
injectors at about 50psi in the hot engine compartment all sealed up.
The rubber failed, miserably, and poured hot gas over the hot metal
sealed in the hot compartment, a real explosion hazard INSIDE the cabin
of the car if it blew the lid off, burning all the occupants to death.

The second time it happened...in there with the ignition HV and POINTS
sparking in the gas fumes, I dumped it and that was the end of the
Volkswagens...as you can imagine. You could smell the fumes, luckily,
but that was always in the boondocks when it blew.

Larry
--
http://www.spp.gov/
The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP

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"Don White" wrote in
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My brother was a big VW fan. He had numerous 'bugs', an orange
'squareback', a 68 bus and even the 'Thing'.
I bought a '72 Super Beetle brand new and kept it 5 years. That was
enough for me.


Did any of you guys own an automatic stick shift beetle? I had one of
those. The clutch was a button in the top of the stick shift.

Larry
--
http://www.spp.gov/
The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP

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"Larry" wrote in message
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Did any of you guys own an automatic stick shift beetle? I had one of
those. The clutch was a button in the top of the stick shift.

Larry


No way....I believe those things were only 2 speed..
I enjoyed the 4 on the floor standard transmission.