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klubko June 9th 07 03:43 AM

Ericson 39: Pros and Cons
 
Hi,
we are considering Ericson 39 for extensive liveaboard/cruising,
mostly (sub-)tropics, SE Asia, mostly on anchor, low budget, couple.
What's your experience? How does it handle heavy weather? What are the
common problems with these boats?
Thanks a lot
Petr


Bob June 10th 07 09:57 PM

Ericson 39: Pros and Cons
 
On Jun 8, 7:43 pm, klubko wrote:
Hi,
we are considering Ericson 39 for extensive liveaboard/cruising,
mostly (sub-)tropics, SE Asia, mostly on anchor, low budget, couple.



what year?
how much does it weigh?
are you going to sail it there?
how old are you?
can you run four 10 minute miles?
can you do 25 push ups?
can you do five pull ups?

bob


klubko June 10th 07 11:19 PM

Ericson 39: Pros and Cons
 
On Jun 11, 4:57 am, Bob wrote:
On Jun 8, 7:43 pm, klubko wrote:

Hi,
we are considering Ericson 39 for extensive liveaboard/cruising,
mostly (sub-)tropics, SE Asia, mostly on anchor, low budget, couple.


what year?
how much does it weigh?
are you going to sail it there?
how old are you?
can you run four 10 minute miles?
can you do 25 push ups?
can you do five pull ups?

bob


hilarious, thanks a lot


Gordon June 11th 07 12:26 AM

Ericson 39: Pros and Cons
 
Bob wrote:
On Jun 8, 7:43 pm, klubko wrote:
Hi,
we are considering Ericson 39 for extensive liveaboard/cruising,
mostly (sub-)tropics, SE Asia, mostly on anchor, low budget, couple.



what year?
how much does it weigh?
are you going to sail it there?
how old are you?
can you run four 10 minute miles?
can you do 25 push ups?
can you do five pull ups?

bob

Here we go again
See
http://ussvdharma.net/

And
http://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/...ws/local03.prt

Gordon

Bruce June 11th 07 01:06 AM

Ericson 39: Pros and Cons
 
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:26:29 -0700, Gordon wrote:

Bob wrote:
On Jun 8, 7:43 pm, klubko wrote:
Hi,
we are considering Ericson 39 for extensive liveaboard/cruising,
mostly (sub-)tropics, SE Asia, mostly on anchor, low budget, couple.


There is an Islander 40, a similar size boat in my marina, in
Thailand. The couple sailed it from California and live on it about 6
months a year. No reason you can't do the same.


Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeatgmaildotcom)

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[email protected] June 11th 07 07:32 AM

Ericson 39: Pros and Cons
 
On Jun 10, 1:57 pm, Bob wrote:
On Jun 8, 7:43 pm, klubko wrote:

Hi,
we are considering Ericson 39 for extensive liveaboard/cruising,
mostly (sub-)tropics, SE Asia, mostly on anchor, low budget, couple.


what year?
how much does it weigh?
are you going to sail it there?
how old are you?
can you run four 10 minute miles?
can you do 25 push ups?
can you do five pull ups?

bob


Now, if you don't even know how much the boat weighs, you are barely
in a position to give advice on any of the questions asked, are you?



klubko June 11th 07 07:34 AM

Ericson 39: Pros and Cons
 
On Jun 11, 8:06 am, Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:26:29 -0700, Gordon wrote:
Bob wrote:
On Jun 8, 7:43 pm, klubko wrote:
Hi,
we are considering Ericson 39 for extensive liveaboard/cruising,
mostly (sub-)tropics, SE Asia, mostly on anchor, low budget, couple.


There is an Islander 40, a similar size boat in my marina, in
Thailand. The couple sailed it from California and live on it about 6
months a year. No reason you can't do the same.

Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeatgmaildotcom)

--
Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com


Thanks a lot for the links and inspiration
Petr


klubko June 11th 07 08:09 AM

Ericson 39: Pros and Cons
 
On Jun 11, 2:32 pm, wrote:
On Jun 10, 1:57 pm, Bob wrote:

On Jun 8, 7:43 pm, klubko wrote:


Hi,
we are considering Ericson 39 for extensive liveaboard/cruising,
mostly (sub-)tropics, SE Asia, mostly on anchor, low budget, couple.


what year?
how much does it weigh?
are you going to sail it there?
how old are you?
can you run four 10 minute miles?
can you do 25 push ups?
can you do five pull ups?


bob


Now, if you don't even know how much the boat weighs, you are barely
in a position to give advice on any of the questions asked, are you?


Thanks

actually I was asking more about the actual experience with this
particular boat. I know that this is basically very good boat probably
quite suitable for what I have in mind, I am just trying to find out,
what problems problems people had with it. Like poor ventilation for
tropics etc. Practical ideas.
Thanks
Petr


Bruce June 11th 07 09:48 AM

Ericson 39: Pros and Cons
 
On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 07:09:53 -0000, klubko
wrote:

On Jun 11, 2:32 pm, wrote:
On Jun 10, 1:57 pm, Bob wrote:

On Jun 8, 7:43 pm, klubko wrote:


Hi,
we are considering Ericson 39 for extensive liveaboard/cruising,
mostly (sub-)tropics, SE Asia, mostly on anchor, low budget, couple.


what year?
how much does it weigh?
are you going to sail it there?
how old are you?
can you run four 10 minute miles?
can you do 25 push ups?
can you do five pull ups?


bob


Now, if you don't even know how much the boat weighs, you are barely
in a position to give advice on any of the questions asked, are you?


Thanks

actually I was asking more about the actual experience with this
particular boat. I know that this is basically very good boat probably
quite suitable for what I have in mind, I am just trying to find out,
what problems problems people had with it. Like poor ventilation for
tropics etc. Practical ideas.
Thanks
Petr


If you want practical ideas, I've been living aboard in Singapore,
Malaysia and Thailand for the past 10 years.

Problems you are going to face a

Assuming you are at anchor:

All sail boats of the type you envision have poor ventilation. Opening
the forward hatch gets some air flow but also lets in the mosquitos
and screens cut down airflow by a surprising amount.

12 Volt fans don't move a lot of air but help. They also run your
batteries down.

Refrigeration. Either you are going to carry ice (not always
available) or you are going to have a fridge, or you are going
shopping everyday. I'd recommend a 12 VDC fridge.

On the type of boat you are thinking about there probably isn't a
generator set. A Honda, or Chinese made copy, will do everything you
need.

Water! Water is a problem. It is heavy and not always available. Plan
on lugging 20 Ltrs a day and learn how to sanitize it.

Renewable power. In SEA wind generators are of limited value - not
enough wind. Solar panels, on the other hand work a treat.

Getting back and forth to shore. You will need a dinghy and reliable 2
- 3 HP motor. Dinghys do get stolen from time to time.

Assuming you are in a marina:

You can have a window air con blowing down the front hatch and live
comfortable. Big 220 VAC fans move a lot of air.

Water no longer is a problem. Just turn on the tap.

Visas:

If you are from N. America or the EU then:

Indonesia is not very hospital with many and varied immigration
regulations. You need a cruising permit to take your boat there.
Bribery and Corruption is a way of life there.

Singapo Gives you a 2 week Seaman's Visa. Staying longer is
possible but complicated. Go to the Seaman's section of Immigrations
and they will give you exact instructions. No bribery or corruption.

Malaysia: 90 day visa after which you must leave the country and
return for a new 90 days. I lived there for more then a year leaving
for the day every three months. No problems. Very little bribery at
the level you will be operating at.

Thailand: 30 days upon entry which is renewable for a limited number
of months by leaving and returning. Complex visa regulations. Contact
a Thai Embassy BEFORE you arrive in Thailand will undoubtedly make the
procedure less complex. Bribery is a complex subject here. It exists
but can only help in some cases. If you have overstayed your visa a
bit of dosh might get you a day or so extension so you don;t have to
pay a fine but won;t get you another 30 days.

Hope that helps a bit.







Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeatgmaildotcom)

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


Solo Thesailor June 11th 07 12:05 PM

Ericson 39: Pros and Cons
 
On Jun 9, 12:43 pm, klubko wrote:
.... Ericson 39 for extensive liveaboard/cruising,
...
What's your experience? How does it handle heavy weather? What are the common problems with these boats?
....


In case you haven't already looked this up:
http://www.ericsonyachts.org/mainframe.htm

There's quite a bit of discussions there by Ericson owners. The boat
registry page shows 17 owners of the 39. From what little I understand
Ericsons are genericly very good boats but, as I think you already
know, it depends on how an individual boat was built by a particular
builder and how she has been looked after thereafter, so knowing how
to select and inspect even before the surveyor stage is a must. Books
on these topics are very interesting.

Good luck. See you on the water somewhere some time.
--
Solo Thesailor
http://sailingstoriesandtips.blogspot.com




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