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Molesworth June 8th 07 07:47 PM

O/B size?
 
I have an 11' tender which is currently supplied with rowlocks. It is
fiberglass and quite heavy.

What size Outboard should I buy?

Don White June 8th 07 08:09 PM

O/B size?
 

"Molesworth" wrote in message
...
I have an 11' tender which is currently supplied with rowlocks. It is
fiberglass and quite heavy.

What size Outboard should I buy?


If you are using it as a tender, I'd stay with a 3 to 4 hp outboard. You'd
want something reasonably light to lug around.



Larry June 8th 07 08:54 PM

O/B size?
 
Molesworth wrote in news:ukmole-
:

I have an 11' tender which is currently supplied with rowlocks. It is
fiberglass and quite heavy.

What size Outboard should I buy?


I vote for the Seagull. Simple, easy-to-repair-yourself even in some
remote port. Of course, they're very hard to find in good condition, so
my second choice would be a 3hp TWO STROKE outboard you can lay down and
carry in ANY position, with the gas tank on top of the motor, not a
separate tank to have to carry and store. Mine is a 3hp Yamaha a
greatful captain gave me out of his garage. You can carry it easily in
one hand. It has no troublesome "shift" transmission. You simply spin
around to point in the direction you want to go, forwards, backwards,
sideways, and it tows the boat as well as pushes it. When you store it,
you simply turn it upside down and pour the premix gas back into the 1
gallon gas can. I let it run with the fuel shutoff turned off until it
stalls on full choke to empty the little carb while it's still on the
9.4' Watertender another greatful boater gave me when he got his
Foldabote 12'.

Oh, how awful....a two stroke!.....yecch!
* It never needs an oil change
* It never needs "regular service" unless the impeller tears up.
* It never needs its valves adjusted, it has none.
* It never needs its fuel pump repaired, it's gravity fed.
* Oil cannot back up into its cylinder because it has no oil so you
can just lay it down anywhere.
* Noone can step on its fuel hose laying on the deck.

Larry
--
Now we'll all go out to Waste Marine and spend $3000 on a Nissan 9.9, 4-
stroke.....yecch.

Lew Hodgett June 8th 07 09:22 PM

O/B size?
 
Molesworth wrote:

I have an 11' tender which is currently supplied with rowlocks. It is
fiberglass and quite heavy.

What size Outboard should I buy?


Anything less than 9,9HP and you are kidding yourself, and it WILL be
4 cyl, if you're smart.

Lew

[email protected] June 8th 07 09:57 PM

O/B size?
 
On Jun 8, 10:22 am, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Molesworth wrote:

I have an 11' tender which is currently supplied with rowlocks. It is
fiberglass and quite heavy.

What size Outboard should I buy?


Anything less than 9,9HP and you are kidding yourself, and it WILL be
4 cyl, if you're smart.

Lew


Maybe... If the dink is a round bottomed pulling boat then 2 or 3 hp
is all it will be able to use anyway. More power would just make it
dangerous. If it has a planning hull then it could use more power but
we need to know something about the service the tender will be in
before we know if he will want it. I use our dink as our car and
often travel a mile or two from the boat to a village. For that a big
motor would be a nice thing, but we put up with a 5hp 2 stroke Yamaha
because it is light. When we're at an anchorage where we are close
the the dock then two or three would be better... Four strokes are
heavy and still don't have the reliably and service network that two
strokes have. So, if you are headed to the wilderness a 2 stroke is a
better bet but if you're puttering about at idle in a pond then a
clean quiet four stroke is the way to go...

-- Tom.


Lew Hodgett June 8th 07 10:17 PM

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Dave wrote:

Then of course you have the greenies who are so pure they wouldn't

consider
a 2 cycle of any kind for fear of fouling their air.



If you expect to put an 11 ft boat with say 400 lbs of people and gear
up on a plane, with say a 2 ft chop, then 9.9 HP may not be enough,
but it certainly a minimum.

As far as 2 cyl is concerned, it's a dead dog, as it has been known.

California outlawed the existing technology a few years ago since it
was the major source of MTEP, a known cancer causing compound, in the
ground water.

As California goes, the rest of the nation follows, it's just a matter
of time.

There has been some effort to develop nonpolluting 2 cycle technology,
but it still has a way to go.

Lew

Capt. JG June 8th 07 11:21 PM

O/B size?
 
"Dave" wrote in message
...
Then of course you have the greenies who are so pure they wouldn't
consider
a 2 cycle of any kind for fear of fouling their air.

Different strokes...



It's also about fouling the water, but if it's important to you to have a
2-stroke, there are lots of good used ones on the market, just know what
you're doing...

http://www.hikersforcleanair.org/papers/2cycle.html

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Jeannette June 9th 07 12:07 AM

O/B size?
 
Charlie Morgan wrote:

For the price of a 4-stroke 9.9 he could find an 11 foot Portabote AND a 5 HP
motor that would be enough to make it plane. The boat would weigh about 70
pounds and would give a fast dry ride. Then it folds up in about 10 minutes into
a package about the size and shape of a surfboard. Porta-botes row well, too. He
should just dump the old heavy dinghy and start over with a better boat. That
old heavy boat is a liability in several directions.

I have the smallest (8.5') porta-bote and a 29 pound, 3.5 hp motor. It planes
quite easily. I can set it up on the foredeck of my 27 foot sailboat and hand
launch it over the lifelines in about 7 minutes with no help. I routinely drag
it up on shore without any fear of sharp rocks or broken glass. Its one tough
little boat.

CWM


Hey good to see a porta-bote user. I ordered a 10' Porta-bote to take to
Mazatlan where my boat is spending the summer. I have a 2.5hp mercury
there to go with it. My boat is 32'. Do you think I will be satisfied
with it? How easy is it to pull it back up onto the deck? I know it says
around 50lbs. What tricks or technics do you use for launching and
retrieving?

Sorry to flood you with questions.

Jeannette
Bristol 32, Con Te Partiro

Wilbur Hubbard June 9th 07 12:16 AM

O/B size?
 

"Jeannette" wrote in message
. net...
Charlie Morgan wrote:

For the price of a 4-stroke 9.9 he could find an 11 foot Portabote
AND a 5 HP
motor that would be enough to make it plane. The boat would weigh
about 70
pounds and would give a fast dry ride. Then it folds up in about 10
minutes into
a package about the size and shape of a surfboard. Porta-botes row
well, too. He
should just dump the old heavy dinghy and start over with a better
boat. That
old heavy boat is a liability in several directions. I have the
smallest (8.5') porta-bote and a 29 pound, 3.5 hp motor. It planes
quite easily. I can set it up on the foredeck of my 27 foot sailboat
and hand
launch it over the lifelines in about 7 minutes with no help. I
routinely drag
it up on shore without any fear of sharp rocks or broken glass. Its
one tough
little boat. CWM


Hey good to see a porta-bote user. I ordered a 10' Porta-bote to take
to Mazatlan where my boat is spending the summer. I have a 2.5hp
mercury there to go with it. My boat is 32'. Do you think I will be
satisfied with it? How easy is it to pull it back up onto the deck? I
know it says around 50lbs. What tricks or technics do you use for
launching and retrieving?

Sorry to flood you with questions.

Jeannette
Bristol 32, Con Te Partiro


I looked at those porti-boats at a boat show. The lady selling them was
real nice and friendly but when she told me the price I was shocked.
Over a grand for a little fold up piece of plastic seemed a bit much.

Anyway I'm glad the price put me off because I've seen them since plying
various anchorages and they sort of snake and flex their way through the
water looking like a cross between an inflatable and a rigid boat.

May I suggest a good quality, nesting dinghy instead.

Wilbur Hubbard


Molesworth June 9th 07 04:00 AM

O/B size?
 
In article ,
Larry wrote:

Molesworth wrote in news:ukmole-
:

I have an 11' tender which is currently supplied with rowlocks. It is
fiberglass and quite heavy.

What size Outboard should I buy?


I vote for the Seagull. Simple, easy-to-repair-yourself even in some
remote port. Of course, they're very hard to find in good condition, so
my second choice would be a 3hp TWO STROKE outboard you can lay down and
carry in ANY position, with the gas tank on top of the motor, not a
separate tank to have to carry and store. Mine is a 3hp Yamaha a
greatful captain gave me out of his garage. You can carry it easily in
one hand. It has no troublesome "shift" transmission. You simply spin
around to point in the direction you want to go, forwards, backwards,
sideways, and it tows the boat as well as pushes it. When you store it,
you simply turn it upside down and pour the premix gas back into the 1
gallon gas can. I let it run with the fuel shutoff turned off until it
stalls on full choke to empty the little carb while it's still on the
9.4' Watertender another greatful boater gave me when he got his
Foldabote 12'.

Oh, how awful....a two stroke!.....yecch!
* It never needs an oil change
* It never needs "regular service" unless the impeller tears up.
* It never needs its valves adjusted, it has none.
* It never needs its fuel pump repaired, it's gravity fed.
* Oil cannot back up into its cylinder because it has no oil so you
can just lay it down anywhere.
* Noone can step on its fuel hose laying on the deck.


Larry,

You're preaching to the choir in regards to 2-strokes! I've got a '69
Vespa!

Molesworth


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