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Dave wrote: On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 20:22:31 GMT, Lew Hodgett said: Molesworth wrote: I have an 11' tender which is currently supplied with rowlocks. It is fiberglass and quite heavy. What size Outboard should I buy? Anything less than 9,9HP and you are kidding yourself, and it WILL be 4 cyl, if you're smart. Lew Seems to me it's silly to suggest there's one "best" answer. Depends very much on your own needs and preferences. I use a 2 1/2 hp 2 cycle for the reasons Larry outlines--it's light and easy to use. And the Seagull's simplicity and reliability are hard to beat, though that's not what I have. Sorry not to have explained. It will be used to go to shore and back only, when we are offshore and can't get to a marina or dock. It's a round bottom, old-fashioned thing and, as I said, v. heavy. I have had a quad bypass so don't have a lot of upper body strength! The suggestion regarding Port-a-bote looks like a winner. Light and easily managed. Thanks for that, and all your input. -- Molesworth |
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Lew Hodgett wrote in news:BHjai.2316$tb6.1553
@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: If you expect to put an 11 ft boat with say 400 lbs of people and gear up on a plane, with say a 2 ft chop, then 9.9 HP may not be enough, but it certainly a minimum. Should 400 pounds of people and gear be IN an 11' boat in a 2' chop with a heavy 4-cycle 9.9hp outboard on one end in the first place? How much transom freeboard over 2 ft does that have?! Sitting at the dock with just the motor on it only shows 18" of transom unless the dock lines are too tight! Must be awful WIDE.....(c; Those waves are awful high! Larry -- http://www.spp.gov/ The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP |
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Dave wrote in news:i9oj63pcafmforuo8lln0uru0frjkqki5c@
4ax.com: There has been some effort to develop nonpolluting 2 cycle technology, but it still has a way to go. Proving my point. I find all this just too funny. Most of the massive containerships burning 75 tons of heavy oil a couple of grades above Bunker C in their 38000 hp diesels are TWO STROKERS! Consumers are just so easy to dupe...(c; You gotta hear one air start and run to appreciate it. Larry -- http://www.spp.gov/ The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in news:136jlgltl9kpd89
@corp.supernews.com: http://www.hikersforcleanair.org/papers/2cycle.html "the 2-cycle gasoline engine has not been improved significantly since it was introduced in the 1940’s. 2-cycle gasoline engines, which take in fuel and emit exhaust in the same stroke, still dump from 25-30% of their fuel unburned directly into our environment. 2-stroke engines also emit particulates in amounts up to 45 times greater than diesel engines." The Greenies have their facts all screwed up. I used to own an Elto 1hp little outboard my grandfather gave me for Christmas with a beautifully- rebuilt oak rowboat when I was 8. (I could hardly see over the bow from the tiller!) Two stroke engines go back a lot further than 1940! Look out over your lake. Do you see it? Do you see that 4 ft thick coating of Quaker State SAE 30 floating on top from a hundred years of 2- stroke boating mixed 15:1 with the tractor gas from my grandfathers hand- pumped tank in the garage? No, look closer, again! What? You don't see it? Well, look again! Do you see even a little oil sheen? I dumped a lot of 2-stroke, 15:1 gas in there trying to fuel the little Elto's top tank in the lake with the waves sloshing me around. It's gotta be there! Oh, come on! There must be SOME evidence of the time I lost the new gas can with 1 gallon of gas/oil overboard when a wake threw both of us in the drink! The slick that came up from the sunken tank was HUGE! My clothes were ruined! I was the laughing stock of all my grandfather's fishing buddies, who unfortunately for me were all sitting on the patio when I finally ROWED back to his dock gasping for breath! Well, that's crazy! Where'd it all go?! What? You mean it EVAPORATED?! You're as crazy as I am! Larry -- http://www.spp.gov/ The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP |
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Molesworth wrote in news:ukmole-
: The suggestion regarding Port-a-bote looks like a winner. Light and easily managed. Thanks for that, and all your input. What gets you about a Portabote is how DRY the ride is....after being soaked a few times in the damned inflatable Zodiac toy boats. 5hp planes a Portabote really easy! Larry -- http://www.spp.gov/ The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP |
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Charlie Morgan wrote in
: I have the smallest (8.5') porta-bote and a 29 pound, 3.5 hp motor. It planes quite easily. I can set it up on the foredeck of my 27 foot sailboat and hand launch it over the lifelines in about 7 minutes with no help. I routinely drag it up on shore without any fear of sharp rocks or broken glass. Its one tough little boat. Charlie. We have a 12' Portabote on Lionheart. To launch and retrieve, we do it VERTICALLY! We clip on a line from the top of the mast to the boat's bow bridle, folded up. Winch the boat up the mast until the stern just barely clears the deck, bottom to the mast. Pull it apart and set the seats and transom in place. (I'm too lazy to bend down to do the transom. It's better winched up to chest level unless there's a gale.) Now, with the boat put together, haul it away from the mast and flip it over so its stern's bottom lays on the rail. Grab the stern line that's longer than the boat but let the boat pull stern away as she goes in the water to leeward. While paying out the line around the winch drum to control the bow, simply push the stern overboard and let her have her lead to leeward, still tied off to the mast. When the bow goes overboard, clip on her bowline you already tied off to a cleat. Unclip the topping lift and pull her in with the long stern line alongside, ready to load with the motor and broken boat parts that always need to go ashore...(c; We haul her up the mast to leeward in reverse order to take her apart and stow her against the port rail. "We shoulda got the 14' model.", Cap'n Geoffrey has said many times while towing all that crap ashore...(c; Two more feet would have been just as easy to setup this way....(c; Larry -- Portabote beats blowup dolls every time! |
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Jeannette wrote in news:Milai.16812$C96.16140
@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net: What tricks or technics do you use for launching and retrieving? Winching it up the mast works wonderfully....Even one person can do it all. See my other post how we do it. "We shoulda got the 14' model." - Cap'n Geoffrey...(c; Larry -- http://www.spp.gov/ The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP |
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Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 20:22:31 GMT, Lew Hodgett wrote: Molesworth wrote: I have an 11' tender which is currently supplied with rowlocks. It is fiberglass and quite heavy. What size Outboard should I buy? Anything less than 9,9HP and you are kidding yourself, and it WILL be 4 cyl, if you're smart. Lew For the price of a 4-stroke 9.9 he could find an 11 foot Portabote AND a 5 HP motor that would be enough to make it plane. The boat would weigh about 70 pounds and would give a fast dry ride. Then it folds up in about 10 minutes into a package about the size and shape of a surfboard. Porta-botes row well, too. He should just dump the old heavy dinghy and start over with a better boat. That old heavy boat is a liability in several directions. I have the smallest (8.5') porta-bote and a 29 pound, 3.5 hp motor. It planes quite easily. I can set it up on the foredeck of my 27 foot sailboat and hand launch it over the lifelines in about 7 minutes with no help. I routinely drag it up on shore without any fear of sharp rocks or broken glass. Its one tough little boat. Cool. That would be about this size, wouldn't it? http://www.porta-bote.com/history.html DT |
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Lew Hodgett brought forth on stone tablets:
Molesworth wrote: I have an 11' tender which is currently supplied with rowlocks. It is fiberglass and quite heavy. What size Outboard should I buy? Anything less than 9,9HP and you are kidding yourself, and it WILL be 4 cyl, if you're smart. Lew A 4 cyl 9.9 HP outboard would be a marvel of miniturization. Perhaps you meant a 4 cycle engine - you know - the heavy ones you have to set down just so, or they'll dump heavy crankcase oil on the dock and then into the water... bob s/v Eolian Seattle |
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