Larry wrote:
Gordon wrote in news:135u5c719h357a6
@corp.supernews.com:

Al Gore told me that global warming was causing the arctic ice
cap to melt and the ocean is going to rise 20 feet.
Last night I mixed a drink in a tall glass with lots of ice. I
left it sit too long and the ice melted but the glass did NOT
overflow. In fact the liquid level was the same!
What's wrong here? (besides ruining a perfectly good drink)
Thanks
Gordon


Global warming has turned into a new religion, as usual for religions
no longer based on facts. If they can be made to BELIEVE that glass
is overflowing, for a substantial donation of course, then the glass
will overflow....in their minds.

One little problem with rising oceans not bantered about is the warmer
ocean has a HUGE increase in EVAPORATION over it's now larger surface.
The hotter it gets, the bigger its surface, the more it
evaporates...tons and tons! The ocean may rise 20 ft, in some
places. For instance, in the Bay of Fundy, it rises 60 ft, every
day....and global warmists never mention it. They probably don't
BELIEVE it rises 60', even if it falls 60' six hours later. You can
see how this religion, like the rest of them, is a religion of
CONVENIENT beliefs....those that generate the largest government
grants on a recurring basis.

The Earth IS warming up. Being that it is already nearly as cold as
it has ever been since the last ice age, that's not such a bad idea!
What will just blow the new global warmists into orbit is if it, once
again like it did from 1940-1975, goes into a sustained cooling
period, or, worse yet, if it goes into another Little Ice Age like it
did in the late 1800's when my Irish ancestors had to flee to America
through Ellis Island because it was too cold in Ireland to feed her
people....in an era when thousands and thousands of huge smoke stacks
were just POURING coal fumes, carbon black, wood fire pollution into
the atmosphere....and we almost froze to death from......"global
warming" caused by humans.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YZ3EM2a1Qjg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zwgruLoOb...elated&search=
http://www.channel4.com/science/micr...arming_swindle
/index.html

and the best one to date:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...022478442170&%
20amp;q=global+warming+swindle
Very professionally done....watch it all.

Larry

As the Greenland ice-cap melts, more topsoil is exposed, and can be used for
agriculture, to feed the rapidly-rising population of the earth. Same with
Antarctica. Isn't God wonderful?

Dennis.

Actually, the gradual rise in sea level exactly matches the rise in
the number of boats on the sea! (If you don't believe that just ask me!)
Therefore, all you sailors are direct contributors and should be ashamed!
Gordon

Rubbish!

It is directly due to the pollution of the oceans by modern industrial
waste and agricultural chemofertilsers which have drastically reduced
the sponge population.

Phylum Porifera are very sensitive to pollutants.

On May 31, 7:20 pm, "KLC Lewis" wrote:

The Global Warming Crisis (tm) is not a matter of science, but of faith.

Hokey Smokes! Al gore looks just like a priest! It's all making
spooky sense
to me now

Gordon wrote:
Al Gore told me that global warming was causing the arctic ice cap to
melt and the ocean is going to rise 20 feet.
Last night I mixed a drink in a tall glass with lots of ice. I left it
sit too long and the ice melted but the glass did NOT overflow. In fact
the liquid level was the same!
What's wrong here? (besides ruining a perfectly good drink)
Thanks
Gordon

You're right for the ice, but the problem is the temperature rising, the
volume of water will increase of .2% per degree F. So if temperature of
the water increase of 5 F it will result of a 1% global increase.

Sorry if i did some mistakes, i'm french speaking.

Andre

On 2007-05-31 21:09:55 -0400, Larry said:

The Earth IS warming up.

As is Mars.

The sun's in a particularly active phase at the moment. Time will tell
which direction the trend really is.*

Meanwhile, Our activities have pretty much zero effect in the grand
scheme of things.

Truth be told, most on this group have lower "carbon footprints" than
most of humanity. When we go out for a weekend, our "footprint" drops
dramatically.

--
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Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Jere Lull wrote in news:2007061804332927544-
jerelull@maccom:

As is Mars.

The sun's in a particularly active phase at the moment. Time will tell
which direction the trend really is.ÿ

Meanwhile, Our activities have pretty much zero effect in the grand
scheme of things.

Truth be told, most on this group have lower "carbon footprints" than
most of humanity. When we go out for a weekend, our "footprint" drops
dramatically.



Hmm....wonder how we're going to sell Mars Global Warming that will make
billions for the corporations? Can we raise a 12 oz can of Freon to $10
over it?

As to the carbon footprint, you all need to see "The Global Warming
Swindle" over on YouTube.com. These aren't conspiracy nuts. These are
some of the finest geoscientists on the planet. They're not playing
along.....

For instance, from 1940 to 1975, when we all drove such awful monster V-
8s with gooky carbs and had not paid for $5000 in pollution control
nonsense, the planet COOLED by several degrees because the sun cooled, of
course. Doesn't anyone remember the alarm bells going off that we are
going into another ice age and we're all going to freeze to death? Those
dire predictions, of course, provided us with the excuse for all the
pollution controls costing consumers trillions, the '73 oil embargo,
etc., etc., all in the name of corporate profits. Then, of course, the
sun warmed up, again, as it has for millions of years, and the propaganda
departments had to make them forget ice ages and start selling the
current line of bull**** we're all going to cook and die, Global Warming.
It became a new profit industry that's now gotten so big it has to be
true, even though it is not. Carbon dioxide went from .48 PARTS PER
MILLION to .52 PARTS PER MILLION, an infintesimally small percentage of
the gas you're breathing. The main "greenhouse gas", water vapor,
increased as the sun warmed the earth, creating larger storms and more
SELLABLE panic. Goebbles would have been very proud.

Listen to the scientists. Watch the whole video for yourselves.

Al Gore should be hung.

Larry
--
http://www.spp.gov/
The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP

On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:33:30 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

On 2007-05-31 21:09:55 -0400, Larry said:

The Earth IS warming up.

As is Mars.

The sun's in a particularly active phase at the moment. Time will tell
which direction the trend really is.*


Just make it up as you go along, why don't you!

"The sun is in the quiet period for the current cycle (cycle 23)."
"Last Updated: May 16, 2007"
http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2006...lar_cycle.html

"direct satellite measurements show no appreciable change in solar
heating over the last three decades."
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporat...ths/index.html

On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:47:21 +0000, Larry wrote:

Jere Lull wrote in news:2007061804332927544-
jerelull@maccom:

As is Mars.

The sun's in a particularly active phase at the moment. Time will tell
which direction the trend really is.ÿ

Meanwhile, Our activities have pretty much zero effect in the grand
scheme of things.

Truth be told, most on this group have lower "carbon footprints" than
most of humanity. When we go out for a weekend, our "footprint" drops
dramatically.



Hmm....wonder how we're going to sell Mars Global Warming that will make
billions for the corporations? Can we raise a 12 oz can of Freon to $10
over it?

As to the carbon footprint, you all need to see "The Global Warming
Swindle" over on YouTube.com. These aren't conspiracy nuts. These are
some of the finest geoscientists on the planet. They're not playing
along.....

For instance, from 1940 to 1975, when we all drove such awful monster V-
8s with gooky carbs and had not paid for $5000 in pollution control
nonsense, the planet COOLED by several degrees because the sun cooled, of
course. Doesn't anyone remember the alarm bells going off that we are
going into another ice age and we're all going to freeze to death? Those
dire predictions, of course, provided us with the excuse for all the
pollution controls costing consumers trillions, the '73 oil embargo,
etc., etc., all in the name of corporate profits. Then, of course, the
sun warmed up, again, as it has for millions of years, and the propaganda
departments had to make them forget ice ages and start selling the
current line of bull**** we're all going to cook and die, Global Warming.
It became a new profit industry that's now gotten so big it has to be
true, even though it is not. Carbon dioxide went from .48 PARTS PER
MILLION to .52 PARTS PER MILLION, an infintesimally small percentage of
the gas you're breathing. The main "greenhouse gas", water vapor,
increased as the sun warmed the earth, creating larger storms and more
SELLABLE panic. Goebbles would have been very proud.

Listen to the scientists. Watch the whole video for yourselves.


This one?

"In a recent interview the Oscar winner *(Lord Puttnam, the deputy
chairman of Channel 4) criticised The Great Climate Change Swindle, a
Channel 4 documentary widely attacked for using flawed scientific
evidence to undermine the case for global warming.

He said: “I wish it hadn’t happened. My job is chairing the climate
change committee in Parliament and it’s not helpful. It’s the kind of
slightly juvenile thing that happens when you take your eye off the
ball.” "

http://entertainment.timesonline.co....cle1873049.ece

* Jere Lull wrote, On 6/18/2007 4:33 AM:

The sun's in a particularly active phase at the moment. Time will tell
which direction the trend really is.

Are you sure about that?


Meanwhile, Our activities have pretty much zero effect in the grand
scheme of things.

Indeed - the Sun will die in a few billion years, so why bother doing
anything? Party On, Dude!


Truth be told, most on this group have lower "carbon footprints" than
most of humanity. When we go out for a weekend, our "footprint" drops
dramatically.

This may apply to the few real liveaboards who use a few gallons of
fuel a week, and nothing else. But I would guess that many (most?) on
this group leave the A/C running in their house when they drive their
SUV to the marina to go out for the weekend.

And certainly, anyone who heats a house in the northern winter, or
cools it in the south, or drives an American car even a few thousand
miles a year has a larger "footprint" than "most of humanity."

I wonder how much energy goes into the manufacture of a new boat, or
even a new car? If someone buys an extra high efficiency car only to
use for short trips around town, does that actually have a higher
footprint?

Goofball_star_dot_etal wrote in
:

On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:47:21 +0000, Larry wrote:

Jere Lull wrote in news:2007061804332927544-
jerelull@maccom:

As is Mars.

The sun's in a particularly active phase at the moment. Time will
tell which direction the trend really is.ÿ

Meanwhile, Our activities have pretty much zero effect in the grand
scheme of things.

Truth be told, most on this group have lower "carbon footprints"
than most of humanity. When we go out for a weekend, our
"footprint" drops dramatically.



Hmm....wonder how we're going to sell Mars Global Warming that will
make billions for the corporations? Can we raise a 12 oz can of Freon
to $10 over it?

As to the carbon footprint, you all need to see "The Global Warming
Swindle" over on YouTube.com. These aren't conspiracy nuts. These
are some of the finest geoscientists on the planet. They're not
playing along.....

For instance, from 1940 to 1975, when we all drove such awful monster
V- 8s with gooky carbs and had not paid for $5000 in pollution control
nonsense, the planet COOLED by several degrees because the sun cooled,
of course. Doesn't anyone remember the alarm bells going off that we
are going into another ice age and we're all going to freeze to death?
Those dire predictions, of course, provided us with the excuse for
all the pollution controls costing consumers trillions, the '73 oil
embargo, etc., etc., all in the name of corporate profits. Then, of
course, the sun warmed up, again, as it has for millions of years, and
the propaganda departments had to make them forget ice ages and start
selling the current line of bull**** we're all going to cook and die,
Global Warming. It became a new profit industry that's now gotten so
big it has to be true, even though it is not. Carbon dioxide went
from .48 PARTS PER MILLION to .52 PARTS PER MILLION, an infintesimally
small percentage of the gas you're breathing. The main "greenhouse
gas", water vapor, increased as the sun warmed the earth, creating
larger storms and more SELLABLE panic. Goebbles would have been very
proud.

Listen to the scientists. Watch the whole video for yourselves.


This one?

"In a recent interview the Oscar winner *(Lord Puttnam, the deputy
chairman of Channel 4) criticised The Great Climate Change Swindle, a
Channel 4 documentary widely attacked for using flawed scientific
evidence to undermine the case for global warming.

He said: “I wish it hadn’t happened. My job is chairing the climate
change committee in Parliament and it’s not helpful. It’s the kind of
slightly juvenile thing that happens when you take your eye off the
ball.” "

http://entertainment.timesonline.co....tainment/tv_an
d_radio/article1873049.ece




He's part of the Global Warming Profession, a new grant-operated group
around the planet who's very existence DEPENDS on humans being the cause.
It matters not that humans aren't the cause, just that the grant money
from the public treasuries keeps pouring in....just like AIDS.

Millions of people have HIV that never get AIDS...and have for thousands
of years that we know of.
Thousands of AIDS patients die of AIDS and have NEVER had HIV....a big
percentage of AIDS victims!

But, the CDC money pot DEPENDS on AIDS being caused by HIV, which it,
obviously, is not. Money is pouring in to cure HIV. Same idea.

Did you actually WATCH the video or are you, as I suspect, worrying over
Lord Puttnam? The SCIENTIFIC FACTS presented on the Swindle special are
irrefutable, once you get the Al Gore politics/money out of it.

Larry
--
http://www.spp.gov/
The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP