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Irwin 37 return from Cancun
My son is proposing to motorsail an Irwin 37 ketch
back from Cancun to Miami with two or three aboard What is the most conservative route that I can propose to him, for Mother's sake? :-) Thanks for any suggestions Brian Whatcott Altus OK |
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Irwin 37 return from Cancun
On Mon, 28 May 2007 21:21:25 -0500, Brian Whatcott
wrote: My son is proposing to motorsail an Irwin 37 ketch back from Cancun to Miami with two or three aboard What is the most conservative route that I can propose to him, for Mother's sake? :-) It's pretty much of a 400+ NM straight shot to Key West, and a cake walk to Miami from there. Just be sure to give Cuba a wide berth, at least 20 miles, and follow the proscribed US Customs procedures. Look for a good weather window without strong easterlies like we've been having for the last two weeks. http://tinyurl.com/3dwz4s |
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Irwin 37 return from Cancun
What is the most conservative route that I can propose to him, for Mother's sake? :-) The most "conservative route" is to cross over to Cuba. Check in, they will be happy to see you and not stamp your passport. Then go down the coast to Havana, there are several places to pull in along the way if the weather is turning poor. Once in Havana, wait for a weather window and then cross over from Havana to Key West. It is 90 miles from dock to dock. Once in the keys they can go up the inter- coastal water way to Miami. Somewhere in the Keys they will need to check in with US imigration/customs. -Mark http://goreads.com |
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Irwin 37 return from Cancun
"Mark R." wrote in message oups.com... What is the most conservative route that I can propose to him, for Mother's sake? :-) The most "conservative route" is to cross over to Cuba. Check in, they will be happy to see you and not stamp your passport. Then go down the coast to Havana, there are several places to pull in along the way if the weather is turning poor. Once in Havana, wait for a weather window and then cross over from Havana to Key West. It is 90 miles from dock to dock. Once in the keys they can go up the inter- coastal water way to Miami. Somewhere in the Keys they will need to check in with US imigration/customs. -Mark http://goreads.com How much does the Irwin 37 draws. What would be the maximum water draft to go thought the intercostals? |
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Irwin 37 return from Cancun
On Mon, 28 May 2007 21:21:25 -0500, Brian Whatcott
wrote: My son is proposing to motorsail an Irwin 37 ketch back from Cancun to Miami with two or three aboard What is the most conservative route that I can propose to him, for Mother's sake? :-) Thanks for any suggestions Brian Whatcott Altus OK Thanks to Mark and Wayne for helpful suggestions. Easy to see that PC versus physical security and weather protection are not pulling the same way, near cigar country. Brian W |
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Irwin 37 return from Cancun
On May 29, 6:34 am, Brian Whatcott wrote:
On Mon, 28 May 2007 21:21:25 -0500, Brian Whatcott wrote: My son is proposing to motorsail an Irwin 37 ketch back from Cancun to Miami with two or three aboard What is the most conservative route that I can propose to him, for Mother's sake? :-) Thanks for any suggestions Brian Whatcott Altus OK Thanks to Mark and Wayne for helpful suggestions. Easy to see that PC versus physical security and weather protection are not pulling the same way, near cigar country. Brian W Why are you not threating Mark R with snitching on him? Spending time in Cuba supporting a commie dictator is much worse a crime than some bum stealing Rum. Visiting Cuba and not declaring it on your passport is a federal crime the FBI would be real happy to know about. You could rack up some major prison time and lose your boat. Is your son going to smuggle some cigars to pay for the trip? Seems both you and Mark are conspiring to break a federal law. You are a bad American Brian if you do not snitch on Mark right now! Joe |
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Irwin 37 return from Cancun
Folks, I think the advice is being offered from the point of view that it is not against the law for all north americans to visit Cuba. It is only against the law for citizens of the United States. For Canadians, trips to Cuba are quite routine. Being a U.S. citizen, I agree with the earlier poster, if it were me, I would give Cuba a very wide berth. Life is just simplier that way, for me, the Cuban authorities, the American authorities, and especially for me. At least for me, boating is supposed to be about hassle minimization *S* Take care all, John |
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Irwin 37 return from Cancun
Brian,
I plotted a course from Cancun to Miami keeping at least 25 miles off Cuba and following the axis of the gulf stream to maximize the assist from the current. It is 504 miles and with an average speed of 6.0 knots it would take 3 1/2 days. Please tell the kids to stay away from Cuba. They do not need any problems from the Feds. Whether we agree or not it is still illegal to spend money in Cuba. It is better not to get involved with this situation until the US has normalized relations with Cuba. Ansley Sawyer SV Pacem Route Name: Created 29 May 2007 @ 07:10:54 Depart from: Cancun Destination: Miami Route has 12 waypoints covering 504 nm Time enroute = 3d 12h 03m at average speed 6.0 knots Wpt 1 21º 10.304' N 086º 47.702' W Out - 097° C 5.41 nm Wpt 2 21º 09.711' N 086º 41.968' W In - 097° C 5.41 nm Out - 064° C 18.8 nm Wpt 3 21º 18.188' N 086º 24.050' W In - 064° C 18.8 nm Out - 042° C 118 nm Wpt 4 22º 46.807' N 084º 59.741' W In - 042° C 118 nm Out - 069° C 96.0 nm Wpt 5 23º 24.958' N 083º 24.513' W In - 069° C 96.0 nm Out - 077° C 121 nm Wpt 6 23º 57.873' N 081º 18.167' W In - 077° C 121 nm Out - 057° C55.9 nm Wpt 7 24º 32.133' N 080º 30.052' W In - 057° C 55.9 nm Out - 037° C 56.1 nm Wpt 8 25º 19.879' N 079º 57.684' W In - 037° C 56.1 nm Out - 355° C 24.6 nm Wpt 9 25º 43.985' N 080º 02.908' W In - 355° C 24.6 nm Out - 326° C 2.66 nm Wpt 10 25º 46.035' N 080º 04.787' W In - 326° C 2.66 nm Out - 258° C 2.13 nm Wpt 11 25º 45.392' N 080º 07.028' W In - 258° C 2.13 nm Out - 300° C 3.36 nm Wpt 12 25º 46.795' N 080º 10.400' W In - 300° C 3.36 nm |
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Irwin 37 return from Cancun
On Tue, 29 May 2007 07:44:43 -0400, "Ansley W. Sawyer"
wrote: Brian, I plotted a course from Cancun to Miami keeping at least 25 miles off Cuba and following the axis of the gulf stream to maximize the assist from the current. It is 504 miles and with an average speed of 6.0 knots it would take 3 1/2 days. Please tell the kids to stay away from Cuba. They do not need any problems from the Feds. Whether we agree or not it is still illegal to spend money in Cuba. It is better not to get involved with this situation until the US has normalized relations with Cuba. Ansley Sawyer SV Pacem Route Name: Created 29 May 2007 @ 07:10:54 Depart from: Cancun Destination: Miami Route has 12 waypoints covering 504 nm Time enroute = 3d 12h 03m at average speed 6.0 knots Wpt 1 21º 10.304' N 086º 47.702' W Out - 097° C 5.41 nm Wpt 2 21º 09.711' N 086º 41.968' W In - 097° C 5.41 nm Out - 064° C 18.8 nm Wpt 3 21º 18.188' N 086º 24.050' W In - 064° C 18.8 nm Out - 042° C 118 nm Wpt 4 22º 46.807' N 084º 59.741' W In - 042° C 118 nm Out - 069° C 96.0 nm Wpt 5 23º 24.958' N 083º 24.513' W In - 069° C 96.0 nm Out - 077° C 121 nm Wpt 6 23º 57.873' N 081º 18.167' W In - 077° C 121 nm Out - 057° C55.9 nm Wpt 7 24º 32.133' N 080º 30.052' W In - 057° C 55.9 nm Out - 037° C 56.1 nm Wpt 8 25º 19.879' N 079º 57.684' W In - 037° C 56.1 nm Out - 355° C 24.6 nm Wpt 9 25º 43.985' N 080º 02.908' W In - 355° C 24.6 nm Out - 326° C 2.66 nm Wpt 10 25º 46.035' N 080º 04.787' W In - 326° C 2.66 nm Out - 258° C 2.13 nm Wpt 11 25º 45.392' N 080º 07.028' W In - 258° C 2.13 nm Out - 300° C 3.36 nm Wpt 12 25º 46.795' N 080º 10.400' W In - 300° C 3.36 nm Thank you Brian Whatcott Altus OK |
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Irwin 37 return from Cancun
I plotted a course from Cancun to Miami keeping at least 25 miles off Cuba and following the axis of the gulf stream to maximize the assist from the current. It is 504 miles and with an average speed of 6.0 knots it would take 3 1/2 days. Ansley, Interesting results. Did you do this the old fashioned way, or did you use software? If it is software or a web-site, would you please share the name. Thank you and take care . . . John |
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