On May 24, 11:36 am, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 24 May 2007 01:09:19 -0700, navti wrote:

the latest is both batteries are now sitting at 11.66 V
after 6hrs trickle charge.

what voltage should they go to when they are fully charged (assuming
they arent totally dead ) ?

Even if they take a full charge and reach the correct voltage, they have lost
capacity. They are probably now 30 amp hour batteries, rather than the 110 you
paid for. They are damaged.


they were manufactured in November 2003 according to the distributor
(serial K3 )

according to the dealer i bought them from they have never been used
since then

he reckons once they are fully charged up they will be ok

this is doing my head in,

can anyone give me instructions on how to test his claim

1) charge them for 24 hrs and get them as close to 13v as they will go

2) let them settle for 24 hours

3) test voltage again

4) do a load test

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On May 24, 11:36 am, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 24 May 2007 01:09:19 -0700, navti wrote:

the latest is both batteries are now sitting at 11.66 V
after 6hrs trickle charge.

what voltage should they go to when they are fully charged (assuming
they arent totally dead ) ?

Even if they take a full charge and reach the correct voltage, they have
lost
capacity. They are probably now 30 amp hour batteries, rather than the
110 you
paid for. They are damaged.


they were manufactured in November 2003 according to the distributor
(serial K3 )

according to the dealer i bought them from they have never been used
since then

he reckons once they are fully charged up they will be ok

this is doing my head in,

can anyone give me instructions on how to test his claim

1) charge them for 24 hrs and get them as close to 13v as they will go

2) let them settle for 24 hours

3) test voltage again

4) do a load test



You bought batteries that have layed around for 4 years?? I have to
assume you rec'd a 'big' discount.
At this point I'd call the manufacturer and talk to their technical dept.

On May 24, 1:31 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"navti" wrote in message

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On May 24, 11:36 am, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 24 May 2007 01:09:19 -0700, navti wrote:

the latest is both batteries are now sitting at 11.66 V
after 6hrs trickle charge.

what voltage should they go to when they are fully charged (assuming
they arent totally dead ) ?

Even if they take a full charge and reach the correct voltage, they have
lost
capacity. They are probably now 30 amp hour batteries, rather than the
110 you
paid for. They are damaged.

they were manufactured in November 2003 according to the distributor
(serial K3 )

according to the dealer i bought them from they have never been used
since then

he reckons once they are fully charged up they will be ok

this is doing my head in,

can anyone give me instructions on how to test his claim

1) charge them for 24 hrs and get them as close to 13v as they will go

2) let them settle for 24 hours

3) test voltage again

4) do a load test

You bought batteries that have layed around for 4 years?? I have to
assume you rec'd a 'big' discount.
At this point I'd call the manufacturer and talk to their technical dept.

The guy who sold me them told me they were BRAND NEW.

Turns out they were 3 and a half years old.

They were cheap : 30 GB pounds each.

When he said the were new he meant they had never been used.

If they have never been used will they not still work OK ?

* navti wrote, On 5/24/2007 8:39 AM:

The guy who sold me them told me they were BRAND NEW.

Turns out they were 3 and a half years old.

They were cheap : 30 GB pounds each.

When he said the were new he meant they had never been used.

If they have never been used will they not still work OK ?


I'll toss in my two cents ...

The seller was dishonest when claiming they were "new." Assuming you
want quality batteries, you should make every effort to return them.

If you find you're stuck with them, the first step is to charge them
and do a load test. They will probably charge up and appear to be
functioning, but with a serious load, they will show a diminished
capacity. It may only be down to 80%, which wouldn't be too bad,
given the price, or they might be at 20%.

If they are greatly diminished, it may be possible to resurrect them
with equalizing. Contrary to general "wisdom" it is possible to
equalize AGM's, but it requires the proper parameters and a good
charger that can be adjusted. You should call the manufacturer - the
first person you talk to will probably say its impossible, but you may
get someone to give you a safe procedure.