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All seamless string sails do have seams. Molded sail technology relies on
flat mylar in a roll form, they broad seam the mylar for the initial shape.
Ain't marketing a great?


Yeah, I know a sail maker who worked with a major on the last cup and
he claimed that they routinely re-cut "molded" sails but their license
with North required that they cover any seams with draft stripes. I
guess the marketing boys didn't want to confuse the general public...

-- Tom.

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All seamless string sails do have seams. Molded sail technology
relies on
flat mylar in a roll form, they broad seam the mylar for the initial
shape.
Ain't marketing a great?


Yeah, I know a sail maker who worked with a major on the last cup and
he claimed that they routinely re-cut "molded" sails but their license
with North required that they cover any seams with draft stripes. I
guess the marketing boys didn't want to confuse the general public...

-- Tom.


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All seamless string sails do have seams. Molded sail technology relies on
flat mylar in a roll form, they broad seam the mylar for the initial
shape.
Ain't marketing a great?


Yeah, I know a sail maker who worked with a major on the last cup and
he claimed that they routinely re-cut "molded" sails but their license
with North required that they cover any seams with draft stripes. I
guess the marketing boys didn't want to confuse the general public...

-- Tom.


Seems to be working. ;-)


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Seems to be working. ;-)


Sorry about that! I'm not even sure it was worth posting once. I
think the multi-post was some kind of server issue.

-- Tom.

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Seems to be working. ;-)


Sorry about that! I'm not even sure it was worth posting once. I
think the multi-post was some kind of server issue.

-- Tom.


Ya, I saw a lot of multiple-posts in the past few days. Actually, though, I
was referring to the marketing hype of North Sails 3DL process. I had no
idea.




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Ya, I saw a lot of multiple-posts in the past few days. Actually, though, I
was referring to the marketing hype of North Sails 3DL process. I had no
idea.


It may not be all marketing. In the nasty fight over the airframe
patent North claimed that their sails were different because the yarns
were continuous (http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT5097784). So
they might be worried about infringing on http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT4593639
when the sails are re-cut. Be that as it may, North makes very, very
good sails and I think you are right about the low stretch making the
square tops workable.

-- Tom.

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Ya, I saw a lot of multiple-posts in the past few days. Actually, though,
I
was referring to the marketing hype of North Sails 3DL process. I had no
idea.


It may not be all marketing. In the nasty fight over the airframe
patent North claimed that their sails were different because the yarns
were continuous (http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT5097784). So
they might be worried about infringing on
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT4593639
when the sails are re-cut. Be that as it may, North makes very, very
good sails and I think you are right about the low stretch making the
square tops workable.

-- Tom.

I have North sails on Escapade, but they're dacron cruising sails. Don't
know that I would want the mylar ones if they were given to me.


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wrote in message
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Ya, I saw a lot of multiple-posts in the past few days. Actually,
though, I
was referring to the marketing hype of North Sails 3DL process. I
had no
idea.


It may not be all marketing. In the nasty fight over the airframe
patent North claimed that their sails were different because the
yarns
were continuous (http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT5097784). So
they might be worried about infringing on
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT4593639
when the sails are re-cut. Be that as it may, North makes very, very
good sails and I think you are right about the low stretch making the
square tops workable.

-- Tom.

I have North sails on Escapade, but they're dacron cruising sails.
Don't know that I would want the mylar ones if they were given to me.



Smart thinking. Dacron sails for cruising is the correct choice all
things considered. Nothing looks stupider than a cruising boat with
expensive, prone to failure, high maintenance racing sails.

The people who attempt to show how cool they are by using hi-tech racing
sails on a cruising boat are the same people who put those spinning
hubcaps on their KIAs. No class.
Fewer brains.

Wilbur Hubbard

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I have North sails on Escapade, but they're dacron cruising sails. Don't
know that I would want the mylar ones if they were given to me.


Dacron is good. Exposed mylar is bad. For seasonal cruising Dacron
would be my first choice on most boats. OTOH, I have gotten very good
results from cruising laminates with both Pentax and Spectra. As
sails get bigger and the loads and sea time on them go up laminates
start to make sense.

-- Tom.

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We use a spectra main and will probably go that route for a new jib. Dacron
is fine for most aplications but as you said it begins to make sense too use
laminates as the size goes up. Loads get to high for dacron unless you
build them bullet proof. Weight becomes and issue then.

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I have North sails on Escapade, but they're dacron cruising sails. Don't
know that I would want the mylar ones if they were given to me.


Dacron is good. Exposed mylar is bad. For seasonal cruising Dacron
would be my first choice on most boats. OTOH, I have gotten very good
results from cruising laminates with both Pentax and Spectra. As
sails get bigger and the loads and sea time on them go up laminates
start to make sense.

-- Tom.



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