[NE Sailboat]

I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger ..

How can one attach? Or store?

Any thoughts?

[John]

On Apr 30, 1:15 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger ..

How can one attach? Or store?

Any thoughts?

Something else to think about . . . unlike most things in your boat
which are corrossion resistant (note I did not say corrossion proof)
to some degree or another . . . bicycles begin to rust almost
immediately unless you really stay after them. I grew up a few blocks
for the ocean and had more than a few friends riding "solid rust"
bicycles. Even such things as the springs beneath the seat (saddle?)
would rust. Nowadays with composite frames, small or no fenders, and
a lot less chrome, this might be less of an issue.

Happy trails.

John

[Harlan Lachman]

In article om,
John wrote:

On Apr 30, 1:15 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger ..

How can one attach? Or store?

Any thoughts?

Something else to think about . . . unlike most things in your boat
which are corrossion resistant (note I did not say corrossion proof)
to some degree or another . . . bicycles begin to rust almost
immediately unless you really stay after them. I grew up a few blocks
for the ocean and had more than a few friends riding "solid rust"
bicycles. Even such things as the springs beneath the seat (saddle?)
would rust. Nowadays with composite frames, small or no fenders, and
a lot less chrome, this might be less of an issue.

Happy trails.

John

My brother and sister and law cruise up and down the coast from NYC to
Maine on a J/34C. They use full road bikes in the rear quarter berth
with the front rear wheels off. They have had no problems, even with a
good pounding in Buzzards Bay.

Neither of them are real tall so their bikes are not huge, but with road
bikes, it is not like there is that much a difference in size with the
front wheel off.

Neither of them like to buy toys so their bikes are not new and them
seem unrusted to me.

h

--
To respond, obviously drop the "nospan"?

[Dennis Pogson]

John wrote:
On Apr 30, 1:15 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old
banger ..

How can one attach? Or store?

Any thoughts?

Something else to think about . . . unlike most things in your boat
which are corrossion resistant (note I did not say corrossion proof)
to some degree or another . . . bicycles begin to rust almost
immediately unless you really stay after them. I grew up a few blocks
for the ocean and had more than a few friends riding "solid rust"
bicycles. Even such things as the springs beneath the seat (saddle?)
would rust. Nowadays with composite frames, small or no fenders, and
a lot less chrome, this might be less of an issue.

Happy trails.

John

Yet another myth to explode.

As an ex racing cyclist-turned-sailor I explored the possibilty of cruising
with 2 very expensive racing machines in the early eighties. Being involved
in waterproof clothing manufacture led me to design 2 custom zip-on
waterproof covers for the bikes, but there are other solutions if your boat
is roomy enough. On our 34-footer we usually tied the bikes across the
stern, and in rough weather were able to pass them down below. We once took
4 bikes and crew to the Isle of Man during TT Race week and cycled round the
course after the racing, a little congested aboard the sailboat if I
remember correctly, but it was worth it!

We cruised extensivly off the West of Scotland for about ten seasons, and
never went anywhere without the bikes.

Rust was not a problem, due to the extensive use of alloys throughout racing
bikes, also we were fastidious to the point of madness in keeping the
machines salt-free.

The biggest broblem with expensive bikes at sea is not rust, or oxidation,
but getting the bikes to and from the boat in anchorages which have no
marina-style pontoons, which, as you may guess are plentiful in the West of
Scotland.

We usually solved this by one of us stepping into the dinghy, fitting the
outboard, then the other crew handing down the bikes, which were laid flat
across the front of the dinghy and held together with a bungee plus a tight
grip from the first mate! We developed a system which worked, to everyone
else's consternation, and became the talk of the cruising fraternity off the
West Coast. Sailors dressed in Lycra are a rarity, you must agree!

Obviously if the wind and waves were too bad, we would abort or delay our
departure, but I can honestly say this was rare. (who would choose a stormy
anchorage for an overnight stay anyway?).

We cycled round virtually every beautiful inhabited island on the West Coast
over a period of some ten years, and I can honestly say the pleasure of
cruising was increased tenfold, despite the extra hard work involved in the
maintenance and conveyance of the bikes. Traffic-free roads, and magical
scenery, made it all worthwhile.

I'm now too old to think about taking myself, let alone the bikes, to sea
again, but if you are young and fit, try it. You don't know what your are
missing! You will discover places and meet people you never knew existed,
beautiful bays, white sandy beaches, completely deserted, and will wish you
had done this years ago!

Oh, lest I forget, a dram of the local Malt Whisky tasted just as good
ashore as on board!

Dennis.

[NE Sailboat]

Dennis ,, you convinced me!

I have a Trek road bike. It is an old favorite. Very light.

I will figure out a plan for taking it aboard. Probably use two bags. One
bag = front wheel and equipment. Second bag = the remainder of the bicycle.

As you wrote,, the hard part seems to be the getting and going. How to get
the bicycle to the boat and how to get the bicycle off the boat.

But ,, it will be worth it .. I know that.


Planning ... always planning ..


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"Dennis Pogson" wrote in message
...
John wrote:
On Apr 30, 1:15 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old
banger ..

How can one attach? Or store?

Any thoughts?

Something else to think about . . . unlike most things in your boat
which are corrossion resistant (note I did not say corrossion proof)
to some degree or another . . . bicycles begin to rust almost
immediately unless you really stay after them. I grew up a few blocks
for the ocean and had more than a few friends riding "solid rust"
bicycles. Even such things as the springs beneath the seat (saddle?)
would rust. Nowadays with composite frames, small or no fenders, and
a lot less chrome, this might be less of an issue.

Happy trails.

John

Yet another myth to explode.

As an ex racing cyclist-turned-sailor I explored the possibilty of
cruising
with 2 very expensive racing machines in the early eighties. Being
involved
in waterproof clothing manufacture led me to design 2 custom zip-on
waterproof covers for the bikes, but there are other solutions if your
boat
is roomy enough. On our 34-footer we usually tied the bikes across the
stern, and in rough weather were able to pass them down below. We once
took
4 bikes and crew to the Isle of Man during TT Race week and cycled round
the
course after the racing, a little congested aboard the sailboat if I
remember correctly, but it was worth it!

We cruised extensivly off the West of Scotland for about ten seasons, and
never went anywhere without the bikes.

Rust was not a problem, due to the extensive use of alloys throughout
racing
bikes, also we were fastidious to the point of madness in keeping the
machines salt-free.

The biggest broblem with expensive bikes at sea is not rust, or oxidation,
but getting the bikes to and from the boat in anchorages which have no
marina-style pontoons, which, as you may guess are plentiful in the West
of
Scotland.

We usually solved this by one of us stepping into the dinghy, fitting the
outboard, then the other crew handing down the bikes, which were laid flat
across the front of the dinghy and held together with a bungee plus a
tight
grip from the first mate! We developed a system which worked, to everyone
else's consternation, and became the talk of the cruising fraternity off
the
West Coast. Sailors dressed in Lycra are a rarity, you must agree!

Obviously if the wind and waves were too bad, we would abort or delay our
departure, but I can honestly say this was rare. (who would choose a
stormy
anchorage for an overnight stay anyway?).

We cycled round virtually every beautiful inhabited island on the West
Coast
over a period of some ten years, and I can honestly say the pleasure of
cruising was increased tenfold, despite the extra hard work involved in
the
maintenance and conveyance of the bikes. Traffic-free roads, and magical
scenery, made it all worthwhile.

I'm now too old to think about taking myself, let alone the bikes, to sea
again, but if you are young and fit, try it. You don't know what your are
missing! You will discover places and meet people you never knew existed,
beautiful bays, white sandy beaches, completely deserted, and will wish
you
had done this years ago!

Oh, lest I forget, a dram of the local Malt Whisky tasted just as good
ashore as on board!

Dennis.

[Larry]

"NE Sailboat" wrote in news:ivpZh.1424$kg1.1057
@trndny04:

Any thoughts?


Here's mine:

http://www.bladezscooters.com/index....tml&lang=en-us

The handle at the bottom of the tiller post releases a big latch so the
tiller folds down over the rear wheel and raises the front wheel to make
it flatter. If you have the standard seat on, not shown in this picture,
you pull a pin and lift the seat post out, first. Locking in the folded
position, the tiller post becomes the carrying handle.

It'll go about 8 miles at 16 mph but lots further if you're easy on the
pulse-width-modulator smooth electronic "throttle". Climbing hills makes
it a 3 mile scooter between charges, but you can hot swap battery packs
and it uses standard sized 12V 12AH gelcells or AGM batteries. I'm
running Werker AGM batteries, now and it runs great....down that 2 mile
long dock from the parking lot...in the rain.

It's chain drive with very smooth power. I'm 250# and it has no trouble
pulling my lard around at all.

Nuclear Powered in SC....(c;

Larry
--

[Peter Hendra]

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:33:23 +0000, Larry wrote:

Damn it Larry,
Why wait until now to say so. I have always wanted one of these but
the ones I saw that were available were only 12 volt and I hope to set
off in a couple of weeks - probably too late to have it shipped.
.. Thanks though, I now know whefre to get them and have a
recommendation from a user, something that has not been married
before. If only there was a foolproof way to have it delivered to
Panama or Costa Rica tax and duty free - yacht in transit. Does anyone
know?

cheers
Peter
http://www.bladezscooters.com/index....tml&lang=en-us

The handle at the bottom of the tiller post releases a big latch so the
tiller folds down over the rear wheel and raises the front wheel to make
it flatter. If you have the standard seat on, not shown in this picture,
you pull a pin and lift the seat post out, first. Locking in the folded
position, the tiller post becomes the carrying handle.

It'll go about 8 miles at 16 mph but lots further if you're easy on the
pulse-width-modulator smooth electronic "throttle". Climbing hills makes
it a 3 mile scooter between charges, but you can hot swap battery packs
and it uses standard sized 12V 12AH gelcells or AGM batteries. I'm
running Werker AGM batteries, now and it runs great....down that 2 mile
long dock from the parking lot...in the rain.

It's chain drive with very smooth power. I'm 250# and it has no trouble
pulling my lard around at all.

Nuclear Powered in SC....(c;

Larry

[Larry]

Peter Hendra wrote in
:

Damn it Larry,
Why wait until now to say so. I have always wanted one of these but
the ones I saw that were available were only 12 volt and I hope to set
off in a couple of weeks - probably too late to have it shipped.
.

Ah, sorry. I just got back from a little diner about a mile from here.
I rode the BladeZ. It's a beautiful day in Charleston...(c;

If you DO buy one, be sure to get a STRONG cable lock to make sure you
can KEEP it. Don't think your remote dock 2 miles from the parking lot
at the marina is safe, either. "They", your mates down the dock, won't
keep it like real thieves, but they'll certainly "borrow" it if it's not
locked down...(c;

I don't really mind them borrowing it, but, DAMMIT PLUG IN THE CHARGER
WHEN YOU GET BACK so I don't find it DOA from some yachtie cruising
around on MY battery pack!

Larry
--
Walking your dead scooter to the car at the end of a day sucks.

[Paul Cassel]

NE Sailboat wrote:
I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger ..

Bicycles rust away unless you protect them.

When I pulled into a port in VA, I met a good looking 55 year old chick
who wanted a ride where I was going. She turned out to be a danm good
banger.

[NE Sailboat]

How many speeds? Drop down or mtn handlebars? Soft seat, or firm?

Did she squeal if not greased?

How long did you keep her onboard?


============================
"Paul Cassel" wrote in message
...
NE Sailboat wrote:
I know there are foldup bicycles, etc .. but .. what about an old banger
..

Bicycles rust away unless you protect them.

When I pulled into a port in VA, I met a good looking 55 year old chick
who wanted a ride where I was going. She turned out to be a danm good
banger.