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Ayesha November 3rd 03 02:09 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
A bit of advice, please, for a UK yachtsman.
If I have a boat in Newport RI and want to head south to the Caribbean
-I imagine this is well worn route - what is the best time of year to do
it? Is it better/ more interesting to use the inland route, or make a
sea passage? How long would you allow to cruise it, rather than race
it?
Anything that would help me plan this passage would be useful,

many thanks

Bill November 3rd 03 04:51 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
If your mean to the Windwards or Leewards and not the Bahamas, then what
you do is head for Bermuda. From there you go south. Depending on your
vessel this is about a week or less to Bermuda and about 2 or more weeks
to, for example, the Virgins or St. Martin

You could also go to the Chesapeake first, but it doesn't save you much time
at all.

You can go down the water way to Florida, but then it is all up wind to the
Caribbean, but the Bahamas are very close. Parts of the water way are very
interesting. Other parts are very boring

I am in Newport. If/when you are here, go down to the Armchair Sailor
Bookstore on lower Thames. They will have everything you need.

People usually leave in the middle of October or thereabouts. This is after
the hurricane season and before it gets too cold.

Good Luck captain.

Bill

"Ayesha" wrote in message
k...
A bit of advice, please, for a UK yachtsman.
If I have a boat in Newport RI and want to head south to the Caribbean
-I imagine this is well worn route - what is the best time of year to do
it? Is it better/ more interesting to use the inland route, or make a
sea passage? How long would you allow to cruise it, rather than race
it?
Anything that would help me plan this passage would be useful,

many thanks




Bill November 3rd 03 04:51 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
If your mean to the Windwards or Leewards and not the Bahamas, then what
you do is head for Bermuda. From there you go south. Depending on your
vessel this is about a week or less to Bermuda and about 2 or more weeks
to, for example, the Virgins or St. Martin

You could also go to the Chesapeake first, but it doesn't save you much time
at all.

You can go down the water way to Florida, but then it is all up wind to the
Caribbean, but the Bahamas are very close. Parts of the water way are very
interesting. Other parts are very boring

I am in Newport. If/when you are here, go down to the Armchair Sailor
Bookstore on lower Thames. They will have everything you need.

People usually leave in the middle of October or thereabouts. This is after
the hurricane season and before it gets too cold.

Good Luck captain.

Bill

"Ayesha" wrote in message
k...
A bit of advice, please, for a UK yachtsman.
If I have a boat in Newport RI and want to head south to the Caribbean
-I imagine this is well worn route - what is the best time of year to do
it? Is it better/ more interesting to use the inland route, or make a
sea passage? How long would you allow to cruise it, rather than race
it?
Anything that would help me plan this passage would be useful,

many thanks




LaBomba182 November 3rd 03 05:08 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
Subject: Heading south from US E coast
From: "Bill"


People usually leave in the middle of October or thereabouts. This is after
the hurricane season


The hurricane season ends in December.

Capt. Bill

LaBomba182 November 3rd 03 05:08 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
Subject: Heading south from US E coast
From: "Bill"


People usually leave in the middle of October or thereabouts. This is after
the hurricane season


The hurricane season ends in December.

Capt. Bill

Glenn Ashmore November 3rd 03 05:36 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
Now is the time. You have about 3 weeks to get packed up and out of
there. After November the weather windows get shorter and shorter and
the forcasts less reliable. Head in the general direction of Bermuda
but don't be tempted to stop there unless you have plenty of money and
resolve to continue on immediately. Bermuda is seductive, expensive and
a storm magnet in the winter.

If departing after the first of December go south to Bufort before
heading out. Take the ICW behind the cape. If you can't fit in the
ditch head out ESE from Norfolk. Stay at least 200 miles off of
Hatteras. Get as much easting as you can above about 25N. We do it out
of Charleston on deliveries every couple of years but getting east is a
lot easier when you start out from Bufort or further north.

When you get to 65W hang a right and proceed direct to the Eastern
Caribbean.


Ayesha wrote:

A bit of advice, please, for a UK yachtsman.
If I have a boat in Newport RI and want to head south to the Caribbean
-I imagine this is well worn route - what is the best time of year to do
it? Is it better/ more interesting to use the inland route, or make a
sea passage? How long would you allow to cruise it, rather than race
it?
Anything that would help me plan this passage would be useful,

many thanks


--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Glenn Ashmore November 3rd 03 05:36 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
Now is the time. You have about 3 weeks to get packed up and out of
there. After November the weather windows get shorter and shorter and
the forcasts less reliable. Head in the general direction of Bermuda
but don't be tempted to stop there unless you have plenty of money and
resolve to continue on immediately. Bermuda is seductive, expensive and
a storm magnet in the winter.

If departing after the first of December go south to Bufort before
heading out. Take the ICW behind the cape. If you can't fit in the
ditch head out ESE from Norfolk. Stay at least 200 miles off of
Hatteras. Get as much easting as you can above about 25N. We do it out
of Charleston on deliveries every couple of years but getting east is a
lot easier when you start out from Bufort or further north.

When you get to 65W hang a right and proceed direct to the Eastern
Caribbean.


Ayesha wrote:

A bit of advice, please, for a UK yachtsman.
If I have a boat in Newport RI and want to head south to the Caribbean
-I imagine this is well worn route - what is the best time of year to do
it? Is it better/ more interesting to use the inland route, or make a
sea passage? How long would you allow to cruise it, rather than race
it?
Anything that would help me plan this passage would be useful,

many thanks


--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Armond Perretta November 3rd 03 07:06 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
LaBomba182 wrote:
Subject: Heading south from US E coast
From: "Bill"


People usually leave in the middle of October or thereabouts. This
is after the hurricane season


The hurricane season ends in December.

Capt. Bill


The official end is 01 Nov. Whether that turns out to be the case is often
another question.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com





Armond Perretta November 3rd 03 07:06 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
LaBomba182 wrote:
Subject: Heading south from US E coast
From: "Bill"


People usually leave in the middle of October or thereabouts. This
is after the hurricane season


The hurricane season ends in December.

Capt. Bill


The official end is 01 Nov. Whether that turns out to be the case is often
another question.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com





Nameless November 3rd 03 10:17 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
A few years a go, we sailed from Fort Lauderdale Florida to the east end of
Puerto Rica (which is where the Virgin's start). We first sailed to Nassau
and then headed out from there. It was a long slog to windward and not too
pleasant even in a 50 footer. Total trip was about 9 days

Once that far south, many cruisers go leisurely via the Abacos and Exumas
and then have a shorter and somewhat more sheltered but still upwind stretch
to Puerto Rica and on to the Virgins. It is apparently best to bypass Haiti
and the Dominican Republic - there may be some smaller islands to stop at -
others may know.

Some friends are presently doing the trip - they planned to go via Norfolk
or Beaufort, then to Bermuda and then to BVI,s - 38 footer. Fine for
experienced sailors, but most cruisers from our area do not venture that far
out to sea!

As others have said - timing is such that you should now be on your way!

"Ayesha" wrote A bit of advice, please, for a UK yachtsman.
If I have a boat in Newport RI and want to head south to the Caribbean
-I imagine this is well worn route - what is the best time of year to do
it? Is it better/ more interesting to use the inland route, or make a
sea passage? How long would you allow to cruise it, rather than race
it?
Anything that would help me plan this passage would be useful,

many thanks




Nameless November 3rd 03 10:17 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
A few years a go, we sailed from Fort Lauderdale Florida to the east end of
Puerto Rica (which is where the Virgin's start). We first sailed to Nassau
and then headed out from there. It was a long slog to windward and not too
pleasant even in a 50 footer. Total trip was about 9 days

Once that far south, many cruisers go leisurely via the Abacos and Exumas
and then have a shorter and somewhat more sheltered but still upwind stretch
to Puerto Rica and on to the Virgins. It is apparently best to bypass Haiti
and the Dominican Republic - there may be some smaller islands to stop at -
others may know.

Some friends are presently doing the trip - they planned to go via Norfolk
or Beaufort, then to Bermuda and then to BVI,s - 38 footer. Fine for
experienced sailors, but most cruisers from our area do not venture that far
out to sea!

As others have said - timing is such that you should now be on your way!

"Ayesha" wrote A bit of advice, please, for a UK yachtsman.
If I have a boat in Newport RI and want to head south to the Caribbean
-I imagine this is well worn route - what is the best time of year to do
it? Is it better/ more interesting to use the inland route, or make a
sea passage? How long would you allow to cruise it, rather than race
it?
Anything that would help me plan this passage would be useful,

many thanks




Kelton Joyner November 3rd 03 10:58 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
If you want to avoid all that slogging to windward, you should read
Bruce Van Sant's book "Passages South" and follow his recommendations.
Takes all the hard stuff out of it. Don't be in a hurry to get there
though. His method requires waiting for the right weather window for
those windward passages.
Kelton
s/v Isle Escape

Nameless wrote:
A few years a go, we sailed from Fort Lauderdale Florida to the east end of
Puerto Rica (which is where the Virgin's start). We first sailed to Nassau
and then headed out from there. It was a long slog to windward and not too
pleasant even in a 50 footer. Total trip was about 9 days

Once that far south, many cruisers go leisurely via the Abacos and Exumas
and then have a shorter and somewhat more sheltered but still upwind stretch
to Puerto Rica and on to the Virgins. It is apparently best to bypass Haiti
and the Dominican Republic - there may be some smaller islands to stop at -
others may know.

Some friends are presently doing the trip - they planned to go via Norfolk
or Beaufort, then to Bermuda and then to BVI,s - 38 footer. Fine for
experienced sailors, but most cruisers from our area do not venture that far
out to sea!

As others have said - timing is such that you should now be on your way!

"Ayesha" wrote A bit of advice, please, for a UK yachtsman.

If I have a boat in Newport RI and want to head south to the Caribbean
-I imagine this is well worn route - what is the best time of year to do
it? Is it better/ more interesting to use the inland route, or make a
sea passage? How long would you allow to cruise it, rather than race
it?
Anything that would help me plan this passage would be useful,

many thanks






Kelton Joyner November 3rd 03 10:58 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
If you want to avoid all that slogging to windward, you should read
Bruce Van Sant's book "Passages South" and follow his recommendations.
Takes all the hard stuff out of it. Don't be in a hurry to get there
though. His method requires waiting for the right weather window for
those windward passages.
Kelton
s/v Isle Escape

Nameless wrote:
A few years a go, we sailed from Fort Lauderdale Florida to the east end of
Puerto Rica (which is where the Virgin's start). We first sailed to Nassau
and then headed out from there. It was a long slog to windward and not too
pleasant even in a 50 footer. Total trip was about 9 days

Once that far south, many cruisers go leisurely via the Abacos and Exumas
and then have a shorter and somewhat more sheltered but still upwind stretch
to Puerto Rica and on to the Virgins. It is apparently best to bypass Haiti
and the Dominican Republic - there may be some smaller islands to stop at -
others may know.

Some friends are presently doing the trip - they planned to go via Norfolk
or Beaufort, then to Bermuda and then to BVI,s - 38 footer. Fine for
experienced sailors, but most cruisers from our area do not venture that far
out to sea!

As others have said - timing is such that you should now be on your way!

"Ayesha" wrote A bit of advice, please, for a UK yachtsman.

If I have a boat in Newport RI and want to head south to the Caribbean
-I imagine this is well worn route - what is the best time of year to do
it? Is it better/ more interesting to use the inland route, or make a
sea passage? How long would you allow to cruise it, rather than race
it?
Anything that would help me plan this passage would be useful,

many thanks






Ayesha November 4th 03 09:57 AM

Heading south from US E coast
 
Kelton Joyner wrote:

If you want to avoid all that slogging to windward, you should read
Bruce Van Sant's book "Passages South" and follow his recommendations.
Takes all the hard stuff out of it. Don't be in a hurry to get there
though. His method requires waiting for the right weather window for
those windward passages.
Kelton
s/v Isle Escape




thanks everbody for your help. I now get the general idea and can start
to make some plans. thanks again

Ayesha November 4th 03 09:57 AM

Heading south from US E coast
 
Kelton Joyner wrote:

If you want to avoid all that slogging to windward, you should read
Bruce Van Sant's book "Passages South" and follow his recommendations.
Takes all the hard stuff out of it. Don't be in a hurry to get there
though. His method requires waiting for the right weather window for
those windward passages.
Kelton
s/v Isle Escape




thanks everbody for your help. I now get the general idea and can start
to make some plans. thanks again

Capt Lou November 4th 03 12:02 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
The closest point on the U.S. east coast to Bermuda is Nantucket,
Massachusetts. You will be going twice the distance if you head to Beaufort,
South Carolina first!

"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou every
Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to
95.9FM.

Capt Lou November 4th 03 12:02 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
The closest point on the U.S. east coast to Bermuda is Nantucket,
Massachusetts. You will be going twice the distance if you head to Beaufort,
South Carolina first!

"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou every
Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to
95.9FM.

Larry W4CSC November 4th 03 01:41 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
On 04 Nov 2003 12:02:52 GMT, (Capt Lou) wrote:

The closest point on the U.S. east coast to Bermuda is Nantucket,
Massachusetts. You will be going twice the distance if you head to Beaufort,
South Carolina first!

What?! You mean....(cough, choke).....get OUT OF SIGHT OF
LAND?!!....(c;

Cap'n Lou I'm gonna tell the Hilton Head Chamber of Commerce on
you....(c;

Stop in CHARLESTON and BRING US MONEY!
We'll even carry the wife to the city market in the marina bus so she
can distribute it!
Thanks!



Larry W4CSC

"Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!"


Larry W4CSC November 4th 03 01:41 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
On 04 Nov 2003 12:02:52 GMT, (Capt Lou) wrote:

The closest point on the U.S. east coast to Bermuda is Nantucket,
Massachusetts. You will be going twice the distance if you head to Beaufort,
South Carolina first!

What?! You mean....(cough, choke).....get OUT OF SIGHT OF
LAND?!!....(c;

Cap'n Lou I'm gonna tell the Hilton Head Chamber of Commerce on
you....(c;

Stop in CHARLESTON and BRING US MONEY!
We'll even carry the wife to the city market in the marina bus so she
can distribute it!
Thanks!



Larry W4CSC

"Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!"


Capt Lou November 4th 03 09:45 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
Larry, I love that southern hospitality! A bottle of cool wine upon docking,
bagles or donuts, coffee, and the newspaper delivered to the boat every
morning, a courtesy car to go shopping..............

When will those yankee marina owners learn how to treat their paying customers?

And by the way, tell the Chamber that I know the difference between Beaufort
(Bu-fort), SC and Beaufort (Bo-fort), NC.


"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou every
Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to
95.9FM.

Capt Lou November 4th 03 09:45 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
Larry, I love that southern hospitality! A bottle of cool wine upon docking,
bagles or donuts, coffee, and the newspaper delivered to the boat every
morning, a courtesy car to go shopping..............

When will those yankee marina owners learn how to treat their paying customers?

And by the way, tell the Chamber that I know the difference between Beaufort
(Bu-fort), SC and Beaufort (Bo-fort), NC.


"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou every
Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to
95.9FM.

Larry W4CSC November 5th 03 01:00 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
On 04 Nov 2003 21:45:50 GMT, (Capt Lou) wrote:


And by the way, tell the Chamber that I know the difference between Beaufort
(Bu-fort), SC and Beaufort (Bo-fort), NC.

Most Yankees don't.

It was about 87F here yesterday. My fall-spring window fan ran all
night, its thermostat never finding peace. Today, it's only going up
to 80F, so it'll be more comfortable in my truck without the AC going
to work.

What a great place to call home......(c;



Larry W4CSC

"Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!"


Larry W4CSC November 5th 03 01:00 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
On 04 Nov 2003 21:45:50 GMT, (Capt Lou) wrote:


And by the way, tell the Chamber that I know the difference between Beaufort
(Bu-fort), SC and Beaufort (Bo-fort), NC.

Most Yankees don't.

It was about 87F here yesterday. My fall-spring window fan ran all
night, its thermostat never finding peace. Today, it's only going up
to 80F, so it'll be more comfortable in my truck without the AC going
to work.

What a great place to call home......(c;



Larry W4CSC

"Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!"


Jim Woodward November 5th 03 02:15 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
Isn't the southern one "Bufert" or maybe "Buferd"?

Jim Woodward
www.mvFintry.com

..
"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
On 04 Nov 2003 21:45:50 GMT, (Capt Lou) wrote:


And by the way, tell the Chamber that I know the difference between

Beaufort
(Bu-fort), SC and Beaufort (Bo-fort), NC.

Most Yankees don't.

It was about 87F here yesterday. My fall-spring window fan ran all
night, its thermostat never finding peace. Today, it's only going up
to 80F, so it'll be more comfortable in my truck without the AC going
to work.

What a great place to call home......(c;



Larry W4CSC

"Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!"




Jim Woodward November 5th 03 02:15 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
Isn't the southern one "Bufert" or maybe "Buferd"?

Jim Woodward
www.mvFintry.com

..
"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
On 04 Nov 2003 21:45:50 GMT, (Capt Lou) wrote:


And by the way, tell the Chamber that I know the difference between

Beaufort
(Bu-fort), SC and Beaufort (Bo-fort), NC.

Most Yankees don't.

It was about 87F here yesterday. My fall-spring window fan ran all
night, its thermostat never finding peace. Today, it's only going up
to 80F, so it'll be more comfortable in my truck without the AC going
to work.

What a great place to call home......(c;



Larry W4CSC

"Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!"




Don White November 6th 03 12:13 AM

Heading south from US E coast
 
The odd thing about Bermuda is that Halifax, Nova Scotia is as close as
anypoint on the US eastern seaboard.
If it was earlier in the season, I'd say...come up here, enjoy the scenery
and then head due south.
Very simple except that you will probably be close hauled the first part of
the trip and the Gulf Stream current might slow you a bit.

Capt Lou wrote in message
...
The closest point on the U.S. east coast to Bermuda is Nantucket,
Massachusetts. You will be going twice the distance if you head to

Beaufort,
South Carolina first!

"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou

every
Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to
95.9FM.




Don White November 6th 03 12:13 AM

Heading south from US E coast
 
The odd thing about Bermuda is that Halifax, Nova Scotia is as close as
anypoint on the US eastern seaboard.
If it was earlier in the season, I'd say...come up here, enjoy the scenery
and then head due south.
Very simple except that you will probably be close hauled the first part of
the trip and the Gulf Stream current might slow you a bit.

Capt Lou wrote in message
...
The closest point on the U.S. east coast to Bermuda is Nantucket,
Massachusetts. You will be going twice the distance if you head to

Beaufort,
South Carolina first!

"Listen to the live broadcast of 'Nautical Talk Radio' with Captain Lou

every
Sunday afternoon from 4 - 5 (Eastern Standard Time) on the web at
www.959watd.com or if you are in Boston or Cape Cod set your radio dial to
95.9FM.




Larry W4CSC November 6th 03 01:33 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:15:06 -0500, "Jim Woodward" jameslwoodward at
attbi dot com wrote:

Isn't the southern one "Bufert" or maybe "Buferd"?

Jim Woodward
www.mvFintry.com

Right....Beaufort, in SC is pronounced B(long)u-Fut

South Carolinians have a similar heritage to British colonies like
Maine. They don't prounounce R either. Bu-fut

Charleston has a special dialect called Geechee. You can also hear it
in Norfolk, Va, (pronounced in Geechee Nofuk, which is where the Navy
sailors got it, not from their sexual discoveries).

Charleston, here, is properly pronounced Chao-stun.....

Do a google search on geechee and learn it. When you come to
Chaostun, I'll take you out to Rockville on Wadmalaw Island and cut
you loose after we take off your blindfold. The Geechee people, black
and white, will direct you back to the city and if you make it (many
don't and we have to send out the rescue squad) we'll issue you a
Geechee Certificate and put a special code on your driver's license
indicating to the local people that you know Geechee and can accept
basic instructions in Geechee, endearing you to all of them,
instantly.

Of course, drenched in coastal island hospitality, many Yankees refuse
to be rescue, choosing, instead, to stay in Rockville. Many seem
attracted to the shrimp, which sells there for $2/pound, to their
astonishment compared to "back home".

Another interesting pronounciation is one of the major islands close
in, James Island. It's proper geechee pronounciation is Ji-mile.
Makes perfect sense....reduces a long name to nearly one syllable, as
do many Geechee words.

I learned Geechee sitting at the lunch counters of the old Eckards
Drug Store just South of downtown Chaostun on US 17. Old Geechee men
used to sit and talk for hours and eventually let me sit in so I
wouldn't miss anything. Don't ask for translations, though. They
figure anyone who's not crazy already KNOWS Geechee, obviously.

Your reporter in Chaostun,
Lah-e
(Larry)



Larry W4CSC November 6th 03 01:33 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:15:06 -0500, "Jim Woodward" jameslwoodward at
attbi dot com wrote:

Isn't the southern one "Bufert" or maybe "Buferd"?

Jim Woodward
www.mvFintry.com

Right....Beaufort, in SC is pronounced B(long)u-Fut

South Carolinians have a similar heritage to British colonies like
Maine. They don't prounounce R either. Bu-fut

Charleston has a special dialect called Geechee. You can also hear it
in Norfolk, Va, (pronounced in Geechee Nofuk, which is where the Navy
sailors got it, not from their sexual discoveries).

Charleston, here, is properly pronounced Chao-stun.....

Do a google search on geechee and learn it. When you come to
Chaostun, I'll take you out to Rockville on Wadmalaw Island and cut
you loose after we take off your blindfold. The Geechee people, black
and white, will direct you back to the city and if you make it (many
don't and we have to send out the rescue squad) we'll issue you a
Geechee Certificate and put a special code on your driver's license
indicating to the local people that you know Geechee and can accept
basic instructions in Geechee, endearing you to all of them,
instantly.

Of course, drenched in coastal island hospitality, many Yankees refuse
to be rescue, choosing, instead, to stay in Rockville. Many seem
attracted to the shrimp, which sells there for $2/pound, to their
astonishment compared to "back home".

Another interesting pronounciation is one of the major islands close
in, James Island. It's proper geechee pronounciation is Ji-mile.
Makes perfect sense....reduces a long name to nearly one syllable, as
do many Geechee words.

I learned Geechee sitting at the lunch counters of the old Eckards
Drug Store just South of downtown Chaostun on US 17. Old Geechee men
used to sit and talk for hours and eventually let me sit in so I
wouldn't miss anything. Don't ask for translations, though. They
figure anyone who's not crazy already KNOWS Geechee, obviously.

Your reporter in Chaostun,
Lah-e
(Larry)



Glenn Ashmore November 6th 03 02:12 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 


Larry W4CSC wrote:


Right....Beaufort, in SC is pronounced B(long)u-Fut

South Carolinians have a similar heritage to British colonies like
Maine. They don't prounounce R either. Bu-fut

Charleston has a special dialect called Geechee. You can also hear it
in Norfolk, Va, (pronounced in Geechee Nofuk, which is where the Navy
sailors got it, not from their sexual discoveries).


My wife, a Navy brat, moved from Mare Island to Charleston Navy Yard in
the 6th grade and her grades went from As to Fs. At the teacher's
conference it became obvious what the problem was. Nobody in the family
understood a word the teacher said. :-)

There are many Charlestonian terms that confuse Yankees. Like:
Noose: What Dan Rather purports to read on TV.
Abode: Noun: A flat piece of wood or Preposition: as in on or within a
boat or ship.
Korea: What UPS and FedX are.
Kyar: A four wheeled vehicle for personal transportation.

These are High Charlestonese terms. Geechee a lot harder to interpret
and Gulla is totally unintelligible. On arrival visitors are encouraged
to buy an English/Charlestonese dictionary.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Glenn Ashmore November 6th 03 02:12 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 


Larry W4CSC wrote:


Right....Beaufort, in SC is pronounced B(long)u-Fut

South Carolinians have a similar heritage to British colonies like
Maine. They don't prounounce R either. Bu-fut

Charleston has a special dialect called Geechee. You can also hear it
in Norfolk, Va, (pronounced in Geechee Nofuk, which is where the Navy
sailors got it, not from their sexual discoveries).


My wife, a Navy brat, moved from Mare Island to Charleston Navy Yard in
the 6th grade and her grades went from As to Fs. At the teacher's
conference it became obvious what the problem was. Nobody in the family
understood a word the teacher said. :-)

There are many Charlestonian terms that confuse Yankees. Like:
Noose: What Dan Rather purports to read on TV.
Abode: Noun: A flat piece of wood or Preposition: as in on or within a
boat or ship.
Korea: What UPS and FedX are.
Kyar: A four wheeled vehicle for personal transportation.

These are High Charlestonese terms. Geechee a lot harder to interpret
and Gulla is totally unintelligible. On arrival visitors are encouraged
to buy an English/Charlestonese dictionary.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Jim Woodward November 6th 03 03:02 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
All right, I'll be the straight man --

Korea: What UPS and FedX are.

Carrier?


--
Jim Woodward
www.mvFintry.com


"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:dLsqb.7234$62.824@lakeread04...


Larry W4CSC wrote:


Right....Beaufort, in SC is pronounced B(long)u-Fut

South Carolinians have a similar heritage to British colonies like
Maine. They don't prounounce R either. Bu-fut

Charleston has a special dialect called Geechee. You can also hear it
in Norfolk, Va, (pronounced in Geechee Nofuk, which is where the Navy
sailors got it, not from their sexual discoveries).


My wife, a Navy brat, moved from Mare Island to Charleston Navy Yard in
the 6th grade and her grades went from As to Fs. At the teacher's
conference it became obvious what the problem was. Nobody in the family
understood a word the teacher said. :-)

There are many Charlestonian terms that confuse Yankees. Like:
Noose: What Dan Rather purports to read on TV.
Abode: Noun: A flat piece of wood or Preposition: as in on or within a
boat or ship.
Korea: What UPS and FedX are.
Kyar: A four wheeled vehicle for personal transportation.

These are High Charlestonese terms. Geechee a lot harder to interpret
and Gulla is totally unintelligible. On arrival visitors are encouraged
to buy an English/Charlestonese dictionary.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com




Jim Woodward November 6th 03 03:02 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
All right, I'll be the straight man --

Korea: What UPS and FedX are.

Carrier?


--
Jim Woodward
www.mvFintry.com


"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:dLsqb.7234$62.824@lakeread04...


Larry W4CSC wrote:


Right....Beaufort, in SC is pronounced B(long)u-Fut

South Carolinians have a similar heritage to British colonies like
Maine. They don't prounounce R either. Bu-fut

Charleston has a special dialect called Geechee. You can also hear it
in Norfolk, Va, (pronounced in Geechee Nofuk, which is where the Navy
sailors got it, not from their sexual discoveries).


My wife, a Navy brat, moved from Mare Island to Charleston Navy Yard in
the 6th grade and her grades went from As to Fs. At the teacher's
conference it became obvious what the problem was. Nobody in the family
understood a word the teacher said. :-)

There are many Charlestonian terms that confuse Yankees. Like:
Noose: What Dan Rather purports to read on TV.
Abode: Noun: A flat piece of wood or Preposition: as in on or within a
boat or ship.
Korea: What UPS and FedX are.
Kyar: A four wheeled vehicle for personal transportation.

These are High Charlestonese terms. Geechee a lot harder to interpret
and Gulla is totally unintelligible. On arrival visitors are encouraged
to buy an English/Charlestonese dictionary.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com




Larry W4CSC November 6th 03 03:38 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
It's also interesting to note that, like it is spelled....boat.....is
a TWO syllable word.....boo-it

If we wanted to say it as a one syllable word, His Majesty would have
had it spelled BOTE.....

While driving through the old city, yesterday, I saw two kids enjoying
another old Chao-stun tradition, a joggling board. This flexible
wooden board, tricky to stand on, is loosely supported on either end
by equally shakey vertical mounts, making staying aboard with your
opponent trying to shake you off great fun.... Many old Chao-stun
houses have joggling boards on their verandas ovahlookin' tha gahdin.

Y'all stop by and have some tea....



Larry W4CSC

"Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!"


Larry W4CSC November 6th 03 03:38 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
It's also interesting to note that, like it is spelled....boat.....is
a TWO syllable word.....boo-it

If we wanted to say it as a one syllable word, His Majesty would have
had it spelled BOTE.....

While driving through the old city, yesterday, I saw two kids enjoying
another old Chao-stun tradition, a joggling board. This flexible
wooden board, tricky to stand on, is loosely supported on either end
by equally shakey vertical mounts, making staying aboard with your
opponent trying to shake you off great fun.... Many old Chao-stun
houses have joggling boards on their verandas ovahlookin' tha gahdin.

Y'all stop by and have some tea....



Larry W4CSC

"Very funny, Scotty! Now, BEAM ME MY CLOTHES! KIRK OUT!"


Glenn Ashmore November 6th 03 03:39 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 


Jim Woodward wrote:
All right, I'll be the straight man --

Korea: What UPS and FedX are.

Carrier?


Close, Courier. The Charleston paper is the Noose and Korea.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Glenn Ashmore November 6th 03 03:39 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 


Jim Woodward wrote:
All right, I'll be the straight man --

Korea: What UPS and FedX are.

Carrier?


Close, Courier. The Charleston paper is the Noose and Korea.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Glenn Ashmore November 6th 03 04:11 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 


Larry W4CSC wrote:


Y'all stop by and have some tea....


BIG difference between Charleston and Savannah. In Charleston they
serve you tea and ask who your daddy is. In Savannah they just ask what
you want to drink. :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Glenn Ashmore November 6th 03 04:11 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 


Larry W4CSC wrote:


Y'all stop by and have some tea....


BIG difference between Charleston and Savannah. In Charleston they
serve you tea and ask who your daddy is. In Savannah they just ask what
you want to drink. :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Jim Woodward November 6th 03 05:07 PM

Heading south from US E coast
 
"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
It's also interesting to note that, like it is spelled....boat.....is
a TWO syllable word.....boo-it

If we wanted to say it as a one syllable word, His Majesty would have
had it spelled BOTE.....

While driving through the old city, yesterday, I saw two kids enjoying
another old Chao-stun tradition, a joggling board. This flexible
wooden board, tricky to stand on, is loosely supported on either end
by equally shakey vertical mounts, making staying aboard with your
opponent trying to shake you off great fun.... Many old Chao-stun
houses have joggling boards on their verandas ovahlookin' tha gahdin.

Y'all stop by and have some tea....



One of the requirements for the boat that turned out to be Fintry was that
we could get her draft to less than seven feet for trips between here and
Florida -- so, a few years from now, we might just do that.

--
Jim Woodward
www.mvFintry.com


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