Nobeltec says on their website, and in an e-mail to their registered
customers, that VNS wasn't ready to use with Vista. There are a lot of
problems with using Vista on a computer, not the least of which it
needs to contact the mothership (MS) on an ongoing basis, or it shuts
down. Not a good scenario when you're out cruising and not plugged in
all the time. My nav computer is dedicated to that, and never connects
to the internet. I can't and won't use Vista.

On Apr 4, 9:46 am, "Keith" wrote:
Nobeltec says on their website, and in an e-mail to their registered
customers, that VNS wasn't ready to use with Vista. There are a lot of
problems with using Vista on a computer, not the least of which it
needs to contact the mothership (MS) on an ongoing basis, or it shuts
down. Not a good scenario when you're out cruising and not plugged in
all the time. My nav computer is dedicated to that, and never connects
to the internet. I can't and won't use Vista.

Interestingly, the latest fix for the animated cursor flaw required me
to allow MS to install the "call home ET" function on my XP
machines... I had been refusing that particular download for some time
but now MS refuses to download the fix if you do not give Billy
unlimited access to your machines... While all my machines have legal
copies of XP/2003 on them it is still annoying...
And I am building my retirement boat and the OS not being able to
"call home" an issue I will have to address in the near future...
There may be an Apple in my future...

denny
denny

"Denny" wrote in message
oups.com...
Interestingly, the latest fix for the animated cursor flaw required me
to allow MS to install the "call home ET" function on my XP
machines... I had been refusing that particular download for some time
but now MS refuses to download the fix if you do not give Billy
unlimited access to your machines... While all my machines have legal
copies of XP/2003 on them it is still annoying...
And I am building my retirement boat and the OS not being able to
"call home" an issue I will have to address in the near future...
There may be an Apple in my future...

Denny - I am running XP (SP2) on my laptop used for navigation purposes
onboard the boat.

I just downloaded the fix for the animated cursor flaw yesterday and was not
aware that it allowed MS to install the "Call Home" function... so I need to
get rid of that as my boat is not connected to the internet... what is the
proper technical name for that function - and is there any way to disable it
short of "rolling back" the software to the previous state???

Claus

claus wrote:

Denny - I am running XP (SP2) on my laptop used for navigation purposes
onboard the boat.

I just downloaded the fix for the animated cursor flaw yesterday and was not
aware that it allowed MS to install the "Call Home" function... so I need to
get rid of that as my boat is not connected to the internet... what is the
proper technical name for that function - and is there any way to disable it
short of "rolling back" the software to the previous state???

Unfortunately you cannot rollback. If you were using automatic updates and this little POS got
installed, you can't un-install it. The only solution is to fdisk-format-reinstall, which of course
leads into the same "upgrade" hell cycle you've just completed. If you're not willing to go Mac or
Linux, you're simply going to have to starts whistling "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life".

....
Unfortunately you cannot rollback. ...

According to the wiki you can roll back by "removing the reference to
WGALOGON.DLL using HijackThis appears to effectively de-activate this
update, to the point where it will be offered again if it has not been
marked "do not show"".
Or your firewall may be able to block access to wgatray.exe. FWIW, I
strongly recommend checking custom when doing updates and then reading
each description carefully. Microsoft does not have your best
interests at heart.

-- Tom.

"the_bmac" wrote in message
...
claus wrote:

Denny - I am running XP (SP2) on my laptop used for navigation purposes
onboard the boat.

I just downloaded the fix for the animated cursor flaw yesterday and was
not aware that it allowed MS to install the "Call Home" function... so I
need to get rid of that as my boat is not connected to the internet...
what is the proper technical name for that function - and is there any
way to disable it short of "rolling back" the software to the previous
state???

Unfortunately you cannot rollback. If you were using automatic updates
and this little POS got installed, you can't un-install it. The only
solution is to fdisk-format-reinstall, which of course leads into the same
"upgrade" hell cycle you've just completed. If you're not willing to go
Mac or Linux, you're simply going to have to starts whistling "Always Look
on the Bright Side of Life".

My maiin concern is that the operating system would stop functioning if my
PC is not connected to the internet while I am out cruising...

Or am I misunderstanding Denney's post?

"claus" wrote in message
. ..

"the_bmac" wrote in message
...
claus wrote:

Denny - I am running XP (SP2) on my laptop used for navigation purposes
onboard the boat.

I just downloaded the fix for the animated cursor flaw yesterday and was
not aware that it allowed MS to install the "Call Home" function... so I
need to get rid of that as my boat is not connected to the internet...
what is the proper technical name for that function - and is there any
way to disable it short of "rolling back" the software to the previous
state???

Unfortunately you cannot rollback. If you were using automatic updates
and this little POS got installed, you can't un-install it. The only
solution is to fdisk-format-reinstall, which of course leads into the
same "upgrade" hell cycle you've just completed. If you're not willing
to go Mac or Linux, you're simply going to have to starts whistling
"Always Look on the Bright Side of Life".

My maiin concern is that the operating system would stop functioning if my
PC is not connected to the internet while I am out cruising...

Or am I misunderstanding Denney's post?
According to the windows xp discussion group:

No, it does not.


"claus" wrote in message
...
I am using windows XP (SP2) to run navigational software on my boat.

Is it correct that the latest "animated cursor" fix also installs a "Call
Home" feature that will make the OS inoperative if the PC can not "call
in" to Microsoft.

In that case I - and everyone else using a PC on a boat (or any other
location without internet access) - have a big problem. Not using the
navigational software is obviously not an option.

Have I misunderstood something???

Thank you for any clarification...

claus wrote:
My maiin concern is that the operating system would stop functioning if my
PC is not connected to the internet while I am out cruising...

I don't think that will happen, but of course with Windows just about anything is possible. That
wasn't meant in a particularly complimentary fashion.

"Denny" wrote in message
oups.com...
And I am building my retirement boat and the OS not being able to
"call home" an issue I will have to address in the near future...
There may be an Apple in my future...

A Mac Mini makes a fine navigation computer...

Meindert

In article l,
"Meindert Sprang" wrote:

"Denny" wrote in message
oups.com...
And I am building my retirement boat and the OS not being able to
"call home" an issue I will have to address in the near future...
There may be an Apple in my future...

A Mac Mini makes a fine navigation computer...

Meindert



As Well as a "Fantastic" DVD and Music Player, and a bunch of
other computing functions......


Bruce in alaska
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