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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:42:58 +0000, Larry wrote:

Y'all come up ta Charleston. Hell, there's more depth at the marina than
in FLORIDA!...(c;

Yes, but tell us about the strong current in the city marina that
makes docking an adventure, and tell us about the tax men lurking
about trying to snare a few loose yacht $$$s.

If you do decide to go anyway, have dinner at the Charleston Grill:


http://travel.yahoo.com/p-travelguid...l_charleston-i

You will not regret it.

Bring $$$s.

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wrote in message
oups.com...
No potshots from me, but a couple of comments that I hope are
constructive.

We're taking
the Captain's classes beginning in a couple of weeks. That won't make
us better sailors, necessarily, but it will add to our skillsets.

The USCG tests for licenses assume that you have proven to be
experienced and competent in the service that you are testing for and
to a large extent just attempt to make sure there are no gaping holes
in your knowledge. Courses for the licenses tend to assume much the
same and cover a lot of ground very quickly. I wonder if it might not
be more appropriate to look at classes intended for novices rather
than professionals.

she tells folks, now,
that she wasn't in condition to stand watch, but didn't fetch me to
either take over or assist. We'll not make that mistake again.

This is critical. I've had two acquaintances die because their less
competent partners failed to wake them in difficult conditions. In
one case the boat was run down by a tow and in the other dragged onto
a lee shore. The husbands and their boats were lost in a large part
because their wives wanted to let them rest. I continually remind my
crew that she must wake me whenever she has any questions or doubts
and I try very hard to praise her each time she calls me even though
most calls are false alarms. Sleep management and watch
responsibility may be the hardest part of sailing short handed.

-- Tom.

As a general rule, women cannot be trusted without supervision aboard a
sailing vessel. They just seem to have a flippant mindset that spells
disaster. Granted, there are and have been a few exceptions to this rule
but very few indeed. Susan Hiscock comes to mind as one, Ellen MacArthur
as another, then there's Lynn Pardee but it's difficult to list any
more. I have this theory that most women find sailing a bore and
secretly don't mind wrecking the vessel hoping to be able to get back
ashore asap.

Wilbur Hubbard

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Your posting got me wondering .... ..

you say ... ... "I've had two acquaintances die because their less
competent partners failed to wake them in difficult conditions."

Did the wives live? Huum... this sounds like a case for CSI Atlantic. Or
Pacific,, Ocean,, ?? Water ??

Anyway,,, if both wives lived, and both husbands died and both boats were
done in while the "little Lady" was on watch ..

It would seem to me that you are "doing both widows".

Yes,, that is the answer. No doubt about it..

Case solved.

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wrote in message
oups.com...
No potshots from me, but a couple of comments that I hope are
constructive.

We're taking
the Captain's classes beginning in a couple of weeks. That won't make
us better sailors, necessarily, but it will add to our skillsets.

The USCG tests for licenses assume that you have proven to be
experienced and competent in the service that you are testing for and
to a large extent just attempt to make sure there are no gaping holes
in your knowledge. Courses for the licenses tend to assume much the
same and cover a lot of ground very quickly. I wonder if it might not
be more appropriate to look at classes intended for novices rather
than professionals.

she tells folks, now,
that she wasn't in condition to stand watch, but didn't fetch me to
either take over or assist. We'll not make that mistake again.

This is critical. I've had two acquaintances die because their less
competent partners failed to wake them in difficult conditions. In
one case the boat was run down by a tow and in the other dragged onto
a lee shore. The husbands and their boats were lost in a large part
because their wives wanted to let them rest. I continually remind my
crew that she must wake me whenever she has any questions or doubts
and I try very hard to praise her each time she calls me even though
most calls are false alarms. Sleep management and watch
responsibility may be the hardest part of sailing short handed.

-- Tom.

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....
As a general rule, women cannot be trusted without supervision aboard a
sailing vessel. ...

Total BS. I trust Maryann with my life regularly. I've sailed with
many competent women and it is not uncommon to see cruising boats out
there run by partners where the woman is the better sailor. In the
local high school sailing league girls have proven time and again that
they are at least as good as the boys at the varsity level.

-- Tom.

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wrote in message
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...
As a general rule, women cannot be trusted without supervision aboard
a
sailing vessel. ...

Total BS. I trust Maryann with my life regularly. I've sailed with
many competent women and it is not uncommon to see cruising boats out
there run by partners where the woman is the better sailor. In the
local high school sailing league girls have proven time and again that
they are at least as good as the boys at the varsity level.


Oh, I'm not talking about some ridiculous varsity sport. I'm talking
about coastal or off shore cruising where watches are taken so one or
the other partner may grab some sleep. If you're honest, you will not
help but notice there are far more men lone-handing than women. Is it
because men would rather sail alone? In a few cases that may well be
true but, for the most part, men who would dearly love to find a
trustworthy sailing partner of the opposite sex cannot fine one because
women simply are not interested. What kind of a life is living aboard a
small yacht for a woman anyway? It's the very antithesis of what
womanhood is all about these days. Gone are the days when the majority
of women were more interested in being a helpmate for their husband than
being a beauty queen set upon a throne for the whole world to admire.
Overwhelming vanity and hedonism is what the modern-day woman embodies.
Even the paltry few of those who are interested in yachts and cruising
seem to be looking for a short cruise and not some long-term cruising
lifestyle. Hence. they just don't take sailing seriously long enough to
develop into skilled sailors. Those are the facts. Keep trusting your
Maryann. One of these days, probably in the near future, she will let
you down. The odds are very good that she will, at least.

Wilbur Hubbard

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"NE Sailboat" wrote in news:c6eQh.527$yL1.202
@trndny04:

Can never remember which is for boating.. probably both.



Depends on who you're in the V-berth with....(c;



Larry
--

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....
Did the wives live? Huum... this sounds like a case for CSI Atlantic. Or
Pacific,, Ocean,, ?? Water ??
...

Yes, the wives lived, no there is no mystery. See the loss of the
"Toolka T" in '01and "Woody Goose" in '98 both returning to New
Zealand from the islands.

-- Tom.

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Wayne.B wrote in
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You will not regret it.



I'll second that. Bring $$$$...(c; We love Yankees with $$$$. Have
since around 1870 when it was discovered they weren't going to leave.

When the money runs low eating at the tourist traps downtown or in
"Doctor Country" in Mt Pleasant, lemme know. The best restaurant, for
the money, is Eastern Buffet, in the shopping center behind Eckerd's
Drugs at the corner of Ashley Phosphate Rd and Dorchester Rd in nasty,
ol' Nawth Charleston, where the gentile are starting to move. A HUGE
array of Thai, Chinese, including an amazing array of sea foods is
$5.95/lunch or $7.95 for dinner (er, ah, including the all-you-can-eat
CHEEZE CAKE!) All you can eat crab legs boosts that to $20/head, if you
like.

Best not to get between me and the food tables...(c;

How anyone can serve 8 shrimp dishes, scallops, 6 crab dishes, baked
salmon, huge salad bar, huge dessert bar with real ice cream, and 3 big
hot bars full of Asian food....and STILL be in business...remains a
mystery.

What's fun is to bring rich friends from Mt Pleasant and downtown to
Eastern Buffet for dinner. They pay $7-10 for one tiny slice of CHEEZE
CAKE! How stupid is that? I bet NONE of you can eat just one piece of
this little chocolate cake with chocolate creme layers topped with a
baked on layer of syrup they make....

Larry
--
Addict...

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" wrote in
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This is critical. I've had two acquaintances die because their less
competent partners failed to wake them in difficult conditions. In
one case the boat was run down by a tow and in the other dragged onto
a lee shore. The husbands and their boats were lost in a large part
because their wives wanted to let them rest. I continually remind my
crew that she must wake me whenever she has any questions or doubts
and I try very hard to praise her each time she calls me even though
most calls are false alarms. Sleep management and watch
responsibility may be the hardest part of sailing short handed.


For those sailor lurkers on the newsgroup....This is why you don't REALLY
need a boat of your own. Sailing with just an incompetent wife, most of
whom are NOT interested in playing captain-for-a-watch anyways, is fairly
foolhardy. Oh, they get away with it a lot, as long as things don't turn
sour. Then, having some hands aboard who know how to sail, fix things,
navigate, etc., becomes invaluable.

It works great, by the way, once you get over the "Captain Syndrome".
You get to play captain for free...more than you want, actually...(c;

Larry, 3rd Mate - Deck and Engineering
--
When they call ME "captain", my response is:
"Oh, no! Your not blamin' ME for this! YOU'RE the captain!"

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On Apr 2, 6:40 pm, " wrote:
No potshots from me, but a couple of comments that I hope are
constructive.

We're taking
the Captain's classes beginning in a couple of weeks. That won't make
us better sailors, necessarily, but it will add to our skillsets.

The USCG tests for licenses assume that you have proven to be
experienced and competent in the service that you are testing for and
to a large extent just attempt to make sure there are no gaping holes
in your knowledge. Courses for the licenses tend to assume much the
same and cover a lot of ground very quickly. I wonder if it might not
be more appropriate to look at classes intended for novices rather
than professionals.


I agree. I think your money would be better spend on some other form
of educational experience.