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Emergency lightning protection
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 06:17:03 GMT, "barry lawson" wrote: In Australia anyway, the main thing is to not play golf, as this is where the statistics say you are most likely to be killed by lightening, even worse than shark attack. Same thing here in south Florida. We usually have several fatal golf course incidents every year. So golfing is bad, good thing since my game is terrible anyway. Regarding the boat, a well grounded mast, shrouds and stays seems to be the consensus and jibes with my experience. If caught out, staying away from metalic objects as much as possible seems prudent. Err, metal like on my boat, the metal column and wheel of the helm? Yikes!!! Stephen |
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Emergency lightning protection
"Sal's Dad" wrote Any thoughts? Make it a tall mast with a sharp point on top. There are also some special electrodes that are supposed to be better than a sharp point but I have no idea how valid their claims are. -- Roger Long |
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"Roger Long" wrote in message ... "Sal's Dad" wrote Any thoughts? Make it a tall mast with a sharp point on top. There are also some special electrodes that are supposed to be better than a sharp point but I have no idea how valid their claims are. Better yet, fly a kite made out of aluminum foil and use a wire leader! Are you trying to get the man killed? Wilbur Hubbard |
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Emergency lightning protection
Any thoughts?
Make it a tall mast with a sharp point on top. There are also some special electrodes that are supposed to be better than a sharp point but I have no idea how valid their claims are. Better yet, fly a kite made out of aluminum foil and use a wire leader! Are you trying to get the man killed? I was thinking along the lines of the "cone of protection" approach: http://www.mdsg.umd.edu/CB/lightning.html http://www.cdc.gov/nasd/docs/d000001...7/d000007.html http://www.cgauxa.org/beacon/Summer06BEACON.pdf or a Faraday Cage created from the framework of a bimini or dodger. Or maybe a combination of both? Sal's Dad |
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"Sal's Dad" wrote I was thinking along the lines of the "cone of protection" approach: or a Faraday Cage created from the framework of a bimini or dodger. Exactly. I don't know if the accusation of trying to get you killed was directed at me but the boathook originally referred to, doesn't produce much of a cone unless it is an unusually long one. Headstays, backstays, and shrouds outght to produce something of a Faraday Cage effect on a metal boat. -- Roger Long |
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Emergency lightning protection
"barry lawson" wrote in news:zJLKh.12288
: we were protected from the lightening by our cloth bimini top Fantastic stories! Thank you! I was on watch during a very violent thunderstorm while out on Charleston (SC, USA) Harbor on a Saturday afternoon. Cap'n Geoffrey had guests aboard the Endeavour 35 who were not sailors, so I suggested, instead of everyone getting drenched to the bone, that he take his guests down into the cabin and I'd handle the helm until it stopped. I put her on a nice tack in not-too-much wind (in spite of the storm), and was soon racing against a Catalina 27 in the storm headed in the same direction. Drowned to the bone by the deluge and having a ball, I soon felt the hackles on my neck start tickling for no reason. I was leaning back against the ungrounded backstay, without thinking about it, and holding THE OCEAN in my hands, the metal wheel firmly attached by stainless cables to the big aluminum rudder underwater! St Elmo's fire was creeping up my arm to discharge that rigging. I decided this was NOT the path to glory it said in the books, so moved away from the backstay to stand on the upwind side of the wheel, steering it from its side a little forward of the pedestal. There were two POPS that jumped, one after the other, from the backstay to the wheel in my hands about 5-10 minutes after I moved! It wasn't a lightning hit, it was static discharging the rigging to that overhead black cloud. It looked like the thin discharge from a Van Degraff static generator back in high school physics class. They didn't hear it in the cabin. I've often wondered how close we were to a major strike to the ungrounded mainmast that lead down to the step in the bilge. Cap'n Geoffrey popped his head up opening the hatch to see if I needed anything a few minutes after. I didn't say anything, but I needed a change of pants....hee hee. Larry -- Roll up to the long checkout line.... Yell, "ICE RAID!" It's your turn to load the grocery belt...(c; |
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Emergency lightning protection
Wayne.B wrote in
: Every once in a while you hear about someone with a plastic thru hull transducer getting blown out by lightning. http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/SG071 Great webpage. The professor of EE is also a sailor. Enter: Sailboat lightning grounding into the Google search engine. There's lots of pages so you can do it right. NEVER MAKE A NEAT RIGHT ANGLE TURN ON A LIGHTNING GROUND! If you gotta be "pretty", don't bother with it at all. ALL turns in ALL lightning grounds MUST be made gradually over a large diameter, not those "nautical" perfect looking turns the bilge pump wires have. This reduceds series INDUCTANCE. Series inductance on the very-fast pulse of a lightning hit is what destroys it.... http://www.copper.org/applications/e...kgbi_station_A 6082.html http://www.space.com/businesstechnol...ket_lightning_ 030130.html Very interesting.....Xrays! Larry -- Roll up to the long checkout line.... Yell, "ICE RAID!" It's your turn to load the grocery belt...(c; |
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Emergency lightning protection
Here's my list of lightning protection links. Probably more than you
ever wanted to know. I have a lightning rod on my mast, connected with a large cable to a copper plate that I drop overboard when not underway. Nothing will guarantee protection, but it's better than nothing. At least it makes me feel better! :-) http://www.kastenmarine.com/Lightning.htm http://marinelightning.com/ http://www.thomson.ece.ufl.edu/lightning/ http://www.cdc.gov/nasd/docs/d000001...7/d000007.html http://www.lightningsafety.com/ http://www.lightningsafety.com/nlsi_...od_recent.html - specific info. on lightning rods http://powerquality.com/ar/power_pre...tning_strikes/ http://www.lightningmaster.com/Structural.htm |
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