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Talk about being able to see the handwriting on the wall . . .
Haliburton moves corporate headquarters to Dubai. Take that, you tax and spend Democrats! http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/.../4620191.htmlv "Lesar's announcement appears to signal one of the highest-profile moves by a U.S. corporate leader to Dubai, an Arab boomtown where free-market capitalism has been paired with some of the world's most liberal tax, investment and residency laws." More proof Democrats in power are bad for the country. While Democrats complain about all the US jobs moving offshore their tax and spend policies drive companies who employ Americans offshore. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message ... Talk about being able to see the handwriting on the wall . . . Haliburton moves corporate headquarters to Dubai. Take that, you tax and spend Democrats! http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/.../4620191.htmlv "Lesar's announcement appears to signal one of the highest-profile moves by a U.S. corporate leader to Dubai, an Arab boomtown where free-market capitalism has been paired with some of the world's most liberal tax, investment and residency laws." More proof Democrats in power are bad for the country. While Democrats complain about all the US jobs moving offshore their tax and spend policies drive companies who employ Americans offshore. Wilbur Hubbard Yeah, Halliburton is good for America. Right. Seems that Dubai is a pretty fitting place for them, all in all: http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/01/18/uae12233.htm |
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
Talk about being able to see the handwriting on the wall . . . Haliburton moves corporate headquarters to Dubai. Take that, you tax and spend Democrats! http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/.../4620191.htmlv "Lesar's announcement appears to signal one of the highest-profile moves by a U.S. corporate leader to Dubai, an Arab boomtown where free-market capitalism has been paired with some of the world's most liberal tax, investment and residency laws." More proof Democrats in power are bad for the country. While Democrats complain about all the US jobs moving offshore their tax and spend policies drive companies who employ Americans offshore. Wilbur Hubbard You too can buy in Dubai. Check this slide show to see what's available. http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06...i/index_01.htm Gordon |
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Dubai Marina
The vision of Dubai Marina is to create an awe-inspiring city-within-a city that delights residents with its cosmopolitan, free-spirited atmosphere and unique, invigorating lifestyle. It will be an urban centre on the water, comparable to the most exclusive waterfront developments in the world's leading cities. Ideally positioned along Dubai's new growth corridor, Dubai Marina will be the place where people meet, laugh, live and enjoy life to the full. Always alive, with the glittering Marina at its heart, Dubai Marina will be unlike any other place, in Dubai, the Middle East and even the world. "KLC Lewis" wrote in message et... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message ... Talk about being able to see the handwriting on the wall . . . Haliburton moves corporate headquarters to Dubai. Take that, you tax and spend Democrats! http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/.../4620191.htmlv "Lesar's announcement appears to signal one of the highest-profile moves by a U.S. corporate leader to Dubai, an Arab boomtown where free-market capitalism has been paired with some of the world's most liberal tax, investment and residency laws." More proof Democrats in power are bad for the country. While Democrats complain about all the US jobs moving offshore their tax and spend policies drive companies who employ Americans offshore. Wilbur Hubbard Yeah, Halliburton is good for America. Right. Seems that Dubai is a pretty fitting place for them, all in all: http://hrw.org/english/docs/2006/01/18/uae12233.htm |
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"The only real question is; Does Dubai have a reciprocal treaty with the US regarding extradition? |
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wrote in message ps.com... "The only real question is; Does Dubai have a reciprocal treaty with the US regarding extradition? Nope. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ition_treaties |
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Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state
forever. It is the second most corrupt state in the union. New Jersey has the number 1 spot and isn't giving it up. Companies are moving out as fast as they can. Fidelity Investments is one. And Fidelity has been a long time employer in Mass. The Democrats are more corrupt than the Repubs. They not only steal but ruin what is there, or left. The new Democrat governor went out and got himself a Caddie. The man is BLACK. The first BLACK governor and the first thing he does is get a Caddie? Hello? Then he hires a $72,000 per year secretary for his wife. State funds for the job. His wife? She is a partner in a lawfirm. And now she has admitted that she is NUTS! So, what is the $72,000 secretary going to do, get her to the NUT HOUSE? The two senators? Kennedy and Kerry. One a murderer and the other a lying phony. There are so many taxes, that the state of Mass even taxes the taxes. Ask any boat owner. And for what? The murder rate in Boston is going through the roof. The state troopers earn over $200,000 per years to sit in cars at construction sites. Why do you think the terrorists picked Boston as the spot to get on planes to fly into the World Trade Tower? Because the incompetent police, security, etc at Logan airport was a joke. It isn't how much you know to get a job in Mass, it is how much you give to the right pol. The whole state is a ruin, a corrupt joke. And the companies that have been putting up with it are leaving. So much for the Democrats. I hope every large company in Mass leaves and the whole place goes into depression. Bankrupt the place. Let em stave. The day T Kennedy kicks I am having a huge party! ============================================ "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message ... Talk about being able to see the handwriting on the wall . . . Haliburton moves corporate headquarters to Dubai. Take that, you tax and spend Democrats! http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/.../4620191.htmlv "Lesar's announcement appears to signal one of the highest-profile moves by a U.S. corporate leader to Dubai, an Arab boomtown where free-market capitalism has been paired with some of the world's most liberal tax, investment and residency laws." More proof Democrats in power are bad for the country. While Democrats complain about all the US jobs moving offshore their tax and spend policies drive companies who employ Americans offshore. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Gordon wrote:
Wilbur Hubbard wrote: Talk about being able to see the handwriting on the wall . . . Haliburton moves corporate headquarters to Dubai. Take that, you tax and spend Democrats! http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/.../4620191.htmlv "Lesar's announcement appears to signal one of the highest-profile moves by a U.S. corporate leader to Dubai, If this is only "one of the highest-profile moves," (sic) did any of the others occur in the past six years, or have they all happened since November? an Arab boomtown where free-market capitalism has been paired with some of the world's most liberal tax, investment and residency laws." More proof Democrats in power are bad for the country. While Democrats complain about all the US jobs moving offshore their tax and spend policies drive companies who employ Americans offshore. Some proof! We have seen an unprecedented movement of manufacturing and corporate control out of the US in the past six years, despite unusually favorable federal antitrust and environmental regulation and taxation policies under the Republicans. I guess we are left to imagine what those policies would have been if there were no Democrats at all. The relevant economic question really is: in a world market, why should US engineers and factory workers and property owners expect greater compensation than their foreign competitors? The world's resounding answer to that question has been a soaring US trade deficit due to unprecedented levels of high-tech imports and a commensurate diminution of US manufacturing. Other than arms and debt instruments, our portfolio of price-competitive exports has been dwindling rapidly. And of course, the petro-dollar service plays an important role. Does anyone believe this process came as a surprise to our leaders, who seem to see fast food employment as the solution? What sort of future is being built for the country based on trends that have been obvious for more than a decade? Can anything be done? Should anything be done? I suspect the train has left the station and the current government emphasis is being placed on "outside-the-box" strategies, most of which involve extra-territorial military "adventures", with the tacit approval of both R's and D's. E.g., Iraq. Which brings us full-circle back to Halliburton, dutifully responding to the nation's tax policies, as well as to its longstanding military adventurism! Just curious, though, about whether their move might have the (fully unintended, of course) consequence of removing records from US subpoena powers. Chuck Wilbur Hubbard You too can buy in Dubai. Check this slide show to see what's available. http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06...i/index_01.htm Gordon ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"NE Sailboat" wrote in message news:cYdJh.4038$0W5.2253@trndny05... Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state forever. It is the second most corrupt state in the union. New Jersey has the number 1 spot and isn't giving it up. Companies are moving out as fast as they can. Fidelity Investments is one. And Fidelity has been a long time employer in Mass. The Democrats are more corrupt than the Repubs. They not only steal but ruin what is there, or left. The new Democrat governor went out and got himself a Caddie. The man is BLACK. The first BLACK governor and the first thing he does is get a Caddie? Hello? Then he hires a $72,000 per year secretary for his wife. State funds for the job. His wife? She is a partner in a lawfirm. And now she has admitted that she is NUTS! So, what is the $72,000 secretary going to do, get her to the NUT HOUSE? The two senators? Kennedy and Kerry. One a murderer and the other a lying phony. There are so many taxes, that the state of Mass even taxes the taxes. Ask any boat owner. And for what? The murder rate in Boston is going through the roof. The state troopers earn over $200,000 per years to sit in cars at construction sites. Why do you think the terrorists picked Boston as the spot to get on planes to fly into the World Trade Tower? Because the incompetent police, security, etc at Logan airport was a joke. It isn't how much you know to get a job in Mass, it is how much you give to the right pol. The whole state is a ruin, a corrupt joke. And the companies that have been putting up with it are leaving. So much for the Democrats. I hope every large company in Mass leaves and the whole place goes into depression. Bankrupt the place. Let em stave. The day T Kennedy kicks I am having a huge party! You sound like a very perceptive and intelligent person capable of seeing for yourself what's going on and not believing a bunch of Democrat lies. It's refreshing to hear sound thinking from time to time. Everything you wrote is fact and documented fact at that. Yet, you will have people calling you names and saying you have mental problems. And this from people who will not accept facts but would rather accept Democrat lies because they are among the lazy good-for-nothings who vote for anybody who promises to give them a free ride. To see the future of Massachusetts read a book called, "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On 12 Mar 2007 11:43:01 -0500, Dave wrote: On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:10:05 -0400, Charlie Morgan said: You sound like a VERY unhappy person. Treatment is available. Charlie, the Dems in Boston are enough to drive anyone to distraction. Worse than those in NY if that's possible. Yeah, but when someone needs to post a laundry list of all the things that make him mad or crazy, then it's time for some counseling. It sounds like he's fixated on things that make him mad and unhappy. Yes, I know you agree with him, but you are able to remain reasonably calm about it. He's consumed by it. He's just stating the facts. It is your assumption that he's consumed by it. Perhaps you are obsessed by it because you hate the truth and feel uncomfortable when confronted with the truth. You would rather other people just stuck their heads in the sand so it would be easier for you to keep your head stuck up your ass. Wilbur Hubbard |
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* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM:
Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state forever. And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the national average. We have one of the best school systems in the country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated amongst the best in the country. It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best if you stayed well clear. |
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"Gogarty" wrote in message ... In article , llid says... To see the future of Massachusetts read a book called, "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand. Oh! Jesus! Now we really are into nut frutcake land. Absolutely. We all know that "The Fountainhead" would be a much better example. |
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"Jeff" wrote in message . .. * NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM: Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state forever. And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the national average. We have one of the best school systems in the country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated amongst the best in the country. It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best if you stayed well clear. I guess you haven't read this: http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling at their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Jeff" wrote in message . .. * NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM: Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state forever. And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the national average. We have one of the best school systems in the country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated amongst the best in the country. It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best if you stayed well clear. http://www.retirementliving.com/RLtaxburdens.html Look at the dollar figure on the chart. Massachusetts taxpayers fork over $5,047 dollars per year. Only exceeded by Connecticut, New Jersey and New York. You lose! Wilbur Hubbard |
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* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:10 PM:
"Jeff" wrote in message . .. * NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM: Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state forever. And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the national average. We have one of the best school systems in the country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated amongst the best in the country. It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best if you stayed well clear. I guess you haven't read this: http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling at their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts. Wilbur Hubbard I guess you didn't read that report yourself. All it says is that the most wealthy don't spend as much of their incomes on certain taxable items, especially sales tax or excise tax items. And, the report is a "standard form" that the web site offers for just about every state. In fact, MA is actually quite fair, with an equal burden shared by 95% of the state. And, the local tax on the poor is 20% lower than the national average, one of the lowest in the country. Compare this to your state. Florida is listed as the second most regressive, with the local tax on the poor over 50% higher than Massachusetts! Its pretty clear you have neither the inclination nor ability to actually determine the truth about even simple issues. |
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"Jeff" wrote in message . .. * Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:10 PM: "Jeff" wrote in message . .. * NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM: Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state forever. And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the national average. We have one of the best school systems in the country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated amongst the best in the country. It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best if you stayed well clear. I guess you haven't read this: http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling at their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts. Wilbur Hubbard I guess you didn't read that report yourself. All it says is that the most wealthy don't spend as much of their incomes on certain taxable items, especially sales tax or excise tax items. And, the report is a "standard form" that the web site offers for just about every state. In fact, MA is actually quite fair, with an equal burden shared by 95% of the state. And, the local tax on the poor is 20% lower than the national average, one of the lowest in the country. Compare this to your state. Florida is listed as the second most regressive, with the local tax on the poor over 50% higher than Massachusetts! Its pretty clear you have neither the inclination nor ability to actually determine the truth about even simple issues. Get a clue, man. Florida has NO income tax. Zero, zip, nada. Sales taxes are in line with most other states and there is no sales tax on groceries. Wilbur Hubbard |
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* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:22 PM:
And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the national average. We have one of the best school systems in the country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated amongst the best in the country. It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best if you stayed well clear. http://www.retirementliving.com/RLtaxburdens.html Look at the dollar figure on the chart. Massachusetts taxpayers fork over $5,047 dollars per year. Only exceeded by Connecticut, New Jersey and New York. It appears that the concepts of "as a percentage of income" and "per capita" income are lost on you. |
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Captain Morgan ,, yes; I am mad. Mad as HELL! The F'n Democrats in Mass
have ruined the F'n state. It is so bad that cruising sailors I know, who have cruised to Nantucket each year for over 30 years, won't go anymore. The whole system in Mass is "stick it to the little guy" and let the rich assholes such as John Kerry [ who has a home and a huge motorboat on Nantucket which were paid for by his obnoxious wife ] live the good life. Just one example. When Rose Kennedy died [ she being the mother of JFK, and Sen Teddy the Drunk ] the family listed her home address as Palm Beach, Florida so they would not pay taxes. She hadn't stepped on the soil of Florida for 20 years! Did they get brought in to court and told to pay the taxes on the estate? Oh nooooooo... they are the Kennedy's. This is how the whole state is run. The ordinary folks get screwed day in and day out while the rich assholes such as Teddy the Drunk and John Kerry the Phoney .. live the good life with a set of rules that don't apply to anyone but them. As an American and a boater ... I am sick of it. I'm sick of the rich liberals who live under one set of rules while sticking it to the normal, working, sailors. You bet I'm ****ed .. and I am staying ****ed as long as the system in Mass stays corrupt. "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:02:32 GMT, "NE Sailboat" wrote: Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state forever. It is the second most corrupt state in the union. New Jersey has the number 1 spot and isn't giving it up. Companies are moving out as fast as they can. Fidelity Investments is one. And Fidelity has been a long time employer in Mass. The Democrats are more corrupt than the Repubs. They not only steal but ruin what is there, or left. The new Democrat governor went out and got himself a Caddie. The man is BLACK. The first BLACK governor and the first thing he does is get a Caddie? Hello? Then he hires a $72,000 per year secretary for his wife. State funds for the job. His wife? She is a partner in a lawfirm. And now she has admitted that she is NUTS! So, what is the $72,000 secretary going to do, get her to the NUT HOUSE? The two senators? Kennedy and Kerry. One a murderer and the other a lying phony. There are so many taxes, that the state of Mass even taxes the taxes. Ask any boat owner. And for what? The murder rate in Boston is going through the roof. The state troopers earn over $200,000 per years to sit in cars at construction sites. Why do you think the terrorists picked Boston as the spot to get on planes to fly into the World Trade Tower? Because the incompetent police, security, etc at Logan airport was a joke. It isn't how much you know to get a job in Mass, it is how much you give to the right pol. The whole state is a ruin, a corrupt joke. And the companies that have been putting up with it are leaving. So much for the Democrats. I hope every large company in Mass leaves and the whole place goes into depression. Bankrupt the place. Let em stave. The day T Kennedy kicks I am having a huge party! You sound like a VERY unhappy person. Treatment is available. CWM |
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* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 4:02 PM:
"Jeff" wrote in message . .. * Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:10 PM: "Jeff" wrote in message . .. * NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM: Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state forever. And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the national average. We have one of the best school systems in the country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated amongst the best in the country. It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best if you stayed well clear. I guess you haven't read this: http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling at their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts. Wilbur Hubbard I guess you didn't read that report yourself. All it says is that the most wealthy don't spend as much of their incomes on certain taxable items, especially sales tax or excise tax items. And, the report is a "standard form" that the web site offers for just about every state. In fact, MA is actually quite fair, with an equal burden shared by 95% of the state. And, the local tax on the poor is 20% lower than the national average, one of the lowest in the country. Compare this to your state. Florida is listed as the second most regressive, with the local tax on the poor over 50% higher than Massachusetts! Its pretty clear you have neither the inclination nor ability to actually determine the truth about even simple issues. Get a clue, man. Florida has NO income tax. Zero, zip, nada. Sales taxes are in line with most other states and there is no sales tax on groceries. Perhaps you should read your own sources rather than make up "data." Here's the sheet for FL: http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/fl%20pr.pdf The poorest 20% are paying 14.4% of their income, mostly in sales tax. In MA, the lowest group only spends 9.3%. |
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You are F'n nuts. Either you have never lived anywhere else, or you are
part of the problem. As for your schools ... They Suck! U Mass .... aka Zoo Mass. Why is it that all the rich pols in your great state send their kids to private school? You know of any Kennedys who attend public school? Did John Kerry go to public school? Teddy? Deval Patrick? Nope ... private school. And as for the crime rate .... are you kidding. There is a murder a day in Boston .. Oh,, they are Black ... guess that doesn't count. Really, you are making a fool of yourself .. "Jeff" wrote in message . .. * NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM: Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state forever. And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the national average. We have one of the best school systems in the country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated amongst the best in the country. It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best if you stayed well clear. |
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Not for nothing, but I believe that MOST politicians, from MOST states, send
their kids to private schools. Public schools are for the plebs. "NE Sailboat" wrote in message news:n_iJh.1502$2%3.268@trndny06... You are F'n nuts. Either you have never lived anywhere else, or you are part of the problem. As for your schools ... They Suck! U Mass .... aka Zoo Mass. Why is it that all the rich pols in your great state send their kids to private school? You know of any Kennedys who attend public school? Did John Kerry go to public school? Teddy? Deval Patrick? Nope ... private school. And as for the crime rate .... are you kidding. There is a murder a day in Boston .. Oh,, they are Black ... guess that doesn't count. Really, you are making a fool of yourself .. "Jeff" wrote in message . .. * NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM: Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state forever. And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the national average. We have one of the best school systems in the country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated amongst the best in the country. It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best if you stayed well clear. |
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Jeff ,,, really man ... you are making a complete fool of yourself.
The poor in Mass can't afford a home. Why? Because the state won't let any homes get built. You throw in the income tax, sales tax, excise tax, real estate tax, the "Big Dig" corruption,,,, You are out of your F'n mind. Mass sucks! It is corrupt. Why do you think Fidelity is leaving? The employees I have spoken to can't get out of Mass quick enough. You should consider therapy. What a joke,,, I'm sure Ted Kennedy is drinking to your stupidity. ======================================== "Jeff" wrote in message . .. * Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 4:02 PM: "Jeff" wrote in message . .. * Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:10 PM: "Jeff" wrote in message . .. * NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM: Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state forever. And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the national average. We have one of the best school systems in the country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated amongst the best in the country. It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best if you stayed well clear. I guess you haven't read this: http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling at their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts. Wilbur Hubbard I guess you didn't read that report yourself. All it says is that the most wealthy don't spend as much of their incomes on certain taxable items, especially sales tax or excise tax items. And, the report is a "standard form" that the web site offers for just about every state. In fact, MA is actually quite fair, with an equal burden shared by 95% of the state. And, the local tax on the poor is 20% lower than the national average, one of the lowest in the country. Compare this to your state. Florida is listed as the second most regressive, with the local tax on the poor over 50% higher than Massachusetts! Its pretty clear you have neither the inclination nor ability to actually determine the truth about even simple issues. Get a clue, man. Florida has NO income tax. Zero, zip, nada. Sales taxes are in line with most other states and there is no sales tax on groceries. Perhaps you should read your own sources rather than make up "data." Here's the sheet for FL: http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/fl%20pr.pdf The poorest 20% are paying 14.4% of their income, mostly in sales tax. In MA, the lowest group only spends 9.3%. |
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"NE Sailboat" wrote in message news:JdjJh.12969$d8.8282@trndny07... Jeff ,,, really man ... you are making a complete fool of yourself. The poor in Mass can't afford a home. Why? Because the state won't let any homes get built. You throw in the income tax, sales tax, excise tax, real estate tax, the "Big Dig" corruption,,,, You are out of your F'n mind. Mass sucks! It is corrupt. Why do you think Fidelity is leaving? The employees I have spoken to can't get out of Mass quick enough. You should consider therapy. What a joke,,, I'm sure Ted Kennedy is drinking to your stupidity. No wonder the Cape Cod Orca stays constantly drunk. If he's drinking to Jeff's stupidity there's plenty enough to keep even Old Kennedy plastered. Jeff is your typical brainwashed liberal. He feels good when he pays taxes. Liberals have been taught they've got to pay taxes until it hurts so the likes of Kennedy and Kerry can live the good life. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message . .. * Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:10 PM: "Jeff" wrote in message . .. * NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM: Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state forever. And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the national average. We have one of the best school systems in the country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated amongst the best in the country. It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best if you stayed well clear. I guess you haven't read this: http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling at their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts. Wilbur Hubbard I guess you didn't read that report yourself. All it says is that the most wealthy don't spend as much of their incomes on certain taxable items, especially sales tax or excise tax items. And, the report is a "standard form" that the web site offers for just about every state. In fact, MA is actually quite fair, with an equal burden shared by 95% of the state. And, the local tax on the poor is 20% lower than the national average, one of the lowest in the country. Compare this to your state. Florida is listed as the second most regressive, with the local tax on the poor over 50% higher than Massachusetts! Its pretty clear you have neither the inclination nor ability to actually determine the truth about even simple issues. Get a clue, man. Florida has NO income tax. Zero, zip, nada. Sales taxes are in line with most other states and there is no sales tax on groceries. Wilbur Hubbard But boy do they stick it to you with property taxes in insurance! |
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"krj" wrote in message ... Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message . .. * Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/12/2007 3:10 PM: "Jeff" wrote in message . .. * NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM: Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state forever. And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the national average. We have one of the best school systems in the country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated amongst the best in the country. It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best if you stayed well clear. I guess you haven't read this: http://www.itepnet.org/wp2000/ma%20pr.pdf Like I said, a rich ruling class and a poor working class groveling at their feet. Socialism is alive and well in Taxachussetts. Wilbur Hubbard I guess you didn't read that report yourself. All it says is that the most wealthy don't spend as much of their incomes on certain taxable items, especially sales tax or excise tax items. And, the report is a "standard form" that the web site offers for just about every state. In fact, MA is actually quite fair, with an equal burden shared by 95% of the state. And, the local tax on the poor is 20% lower than the national average, one of the lowest in the country. Compare this to your state. Florida is listed as the second most regressive, with the local tax on the poor over 50% higher than Massachusetts! Its pretty clear you have neither the inclination nor ability to actually determine the truth about even simple issues. Get a clue, man. Florida has NO income tax. Zero, zip, nada. Sales taxes are in line with most other states and there is no sales tax on groceries. Wilbur Hubbard But boy do they stick it to you with property taxes in insurance! So, is there anybody forcing a body to own property and to insure it? No! Well, I thought so. As long as owning property is a choice then you choose to pay property taxes and you choose to insure it. If you borrow to buy then you're also forced to insure the property. It's as simple as that. Now, if people were forced to own property then had to pay property taxes and insurance, that would be a different story altogether. It seems to me if there's any such thing as a fair tax then property tax sure fits the bill. It seems correct to me the more property and the more expensive property you own you should be taxed on it on a percentage basis. Same percentage whether your property is worth fifty grand or fifty million grand. But there is help for the lower income folks. There is a 25K homestead exemption soon to go up to 50K on which the property owner pays not one thin dime. This helps out the low income people and sticks it to the rich. Boy are the rich ****s ever complaining and lobbying AGAINST the doubling of the homestead exemption. Seems like they don't mind sticking it to the poor but when they have to pay for their mansions they balk. Wilbur Hubbard |
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* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 4:46 PM:
You are F'n nuts. Either you have never lived anywhere else, or you are part of the problem. As for your schools ... They Suck! I repeat, the public schools are rated the BEST in the country! U Mass .... aka Zoo Mass. That must be why its so highly rated. I'm guessing you weren't accepted. Why is it that all the rich pols in your great state send their kids to private school? Because they can. Just like rich folks all over the country. But the public schools are the best in the country. In fact, the high schools in my town were rated on a par with the best private schools. You know of any Kennedys who attend public school? Did John Kerry go to public school? Teddy? Deval Patrick? Nope ... private school. So? Do you have a point? Have you ever had a point? And as for the crime rate .... are you kidding. There is a murder a day in Boston .. ???? Are you serious? Do you just make up this stuff as you go along? Are you so stupid as to think I wouldn't actually have the data on hand? Its true that the Boston murder rate has gone up dramatically in the last couple of years. But its still only 73 in the last reported year. The entire state had 175 for the full year, or 2.7 per 100,000. There were 13 states with lower rates, most of them rural with low populations. The national average is 5.6 per 100,000, more than twice the MA rate. Oh,, they are Black ... guess that doesn't count. What a racist thing to say. Really, you are making a fool of yourself .. Only in that I waste time with ignorant scum like you. But someone else might find it informative. "Jeff" wrote in message . .. * NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM: Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state forever. And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the national average. We have one of the best school systems in the country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated amongst the best in the country. It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best if you stayed well clear. |
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* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 5:02 PM:
Jeff ,,, really man ... you are making a complete fool of yourself. The poor in Mass can't afford a home. Why? Because the state won't let any homes get built. So, are you claiming everyone is living in tents? Why do you think housing is so expensive here? Maybe its because people want to live here. You throw in the income tax, sales tax, excise tax, real estate tax, the As I've already shown, these taxes are lower than the national average. "Big Dig" corruption,,,, Yes, well, it kept half the state employed for ten years. And now we have a great system. You are out of your F'n mind. You're the one with the serious reality problem. Mass sucks! It is corrupt. Why do you think Fidelity is leaving? The employees I have spoken to can't get out of Mass quick enough. And yet, our departed Republican Gov is claiming he "turned the state around." Are you claiming he made it worse? You should consider therapy. Why? Because my world is reality based? I'm a joke,,, we never could have guessed. |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message ... So, is there anybody forcing a body to own property and to insure it? No! Well, I thought so. As long as owning property is a choice then you choose to pay property taxes and you choose to insure it. If you borrow to buy then you're also forced to insure the property. It's as simple as that. Now, if people were forced to own property then had to pay property taxes and insurance, that would be a different story altogether. It seems to me if there's any such thing as a fair tax then property tax sure fits the bill. It seems correct to me the more property and the more expensive property you own you should be taxed on it on a percentage basis. Same percentage whether your property is worth fifty grand or fifty million grand. But there is help for the lower income folks. There is a 25K homestead exemption soon to go up to 50K on which the property owner pays not one thin dime. This helps out the low income people and sticks it to the rich. Boy are the rich ****s ever complaining and lobbying AGAINST the doubling of the homestead exemption. Seems like they don't mind sticking it to the poor but when they have to pay for their mansions they balk. Wilbur Hubbard The ability to own the land one lives upon is one of the most basic and vital sources of, and expressions of, liberty. And you act as if it's nothing more than a privilege? Hardly seems consistent with your usual politics. |
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Jeff ,, let me take these one at a time...
Housing? No, people don't want to live in Mass. The population has declined, in fact the state may lose at least one but maybe two Congressman because of this. The Big Dig a great system? Tell that to the lady who was killed when the tunnel collapsed on her car. The Ted Williams tunnel leaks! It is just a matter of time before the whole tunnel goes ... The former Governor Romney got out because he could not govern. The Dems control the state. The new Governor is a pathetic joke. He gets himself a Caddy, hires a secretary for his wife at $72,000 per year, his wife goes nuts, He writes letters of questionable legality ... and he has just started! If you have any opportunity .. GET OUT .. save yourself. Mass is about to go down the tubes. As soon as the economy goes a little south, Mass will be the big pits. Even fat Teddy K can't save this sinking ship. ============================== "Jeff" wrote in message . .. * NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 5:02 PM: Jeff ,,, really man ... you are making a complete fool of yourself. The poor in Mass can't afford a home. Why? Because the state won't let any homes get built. So, are you claiming everyone is living in tents? Why do you think housing is so expensive here? Maybe its because people want to live here. You throw in the income tax, sales tax, excise tax, real estate tax, the As I've already shown, these taxes are lower than the national average. "Big Dig" corruption,,,, Yes, well, it kept half the state employed for ten years. And now we have a great system. You are out of your F'n mind. You're the one with the serious reality problem. Mass sucks! It is corrupt. Why do you think Fidelity is leaving? The employees I have spoken to can't get out of Mass quick enough. And yet, our departed Republican Gov is claiming he "turned the state around." Are you claiming he made it worse? You should consider therapy. Why? Because my world is reality based? I'm a joke,,, we never could have guessed. |
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Glad to see that the crime problem is under control. Tell that to the
family of the young Black girl who was gunned down in front of an elementary school the other day. Or .. better yet ... Mary Joe Kopecney... Is she still in Teddy's car under water? The ******* left her to drown ,, she died stuck in a car in 6 feet of water. The murdering drunk.. your Senator! I hope you are proud. Me? It makes me sick when I think of that girl struggling to free herself. And where was Teddy? He was running for his life. The fat drunk.. running ... trying to get away... so what if a young girl dies.. Great State .. ========== "Jeff" wrote in message . .. * NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 4:46 PM: You are F'n nuts. Either you have never lived anywhere else, or you are part of the problem. As for your schools ... They Suck! I repeat, the public schools are rated the BEST in the country! U Mass .... aka Zoo Mass. That must be why its so highly rated. I'm guessing you weren't accepted. Why is it that all the rich pols in your great state send their kids to private school? Because they can. Just like rich folks all over the country. But the public schools are the best in the country. In fact, the high schools in my town were rated on a par with the best private schools. You know of any Kennedys who attend public school? Did John Kerry go to public school? Teddy? Deval Patrick? Nope ... private school. So? Do you have a point? Have you ever had a point? And as for the crime rate .... are you kidding. There is a murder a day in Boston .. ???? Are you serious? Do you just make up this stuff as you go along? Are you so stupid as to think I wouldn't actually have the data on hand? Its true that the Boston murder rate has gone up dramatically in the last couple of years. But its still only 73 in the last reported year. The entire state had 175 for the full year, or 2.7 per 100,000. There were 13 states with lower rates, most of them rural with low populations. The national average is 5.6 per 100,000, more than twice the MA rate. Oh,, they are Black ... guess that doesn't count. What a racist thing to say. Really, you are making a fool of yourself .. Only in that I waste time with ignorant scum like you. But someone else might find it informative. "Jeff" wrote in message . .. * NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 11:02 AM: Take a look at Massachusetts .. The Democrats have been running the state forever. And, because of that, we have a local tax burden lower than the national average. We have one of the best school systems in the country, with the highest ratings on all four of the the standardized tests (reading and math, 4th and 8th grades) of any of the states. Crime rates are well below the national average, with one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Also, our suicide rate is almost the lowest in the country. The major health care systems are rated amongst the best in the country. It sure looks like the Dems made a mess of things. I suppose its best if you stayed well clear. |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message ... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message ... So, is there anybody forcing a body to own property and to insure it? No! Well, I thought so. As long as owning property is a choice then you choose to pay property taxes and you choose to insure it. If you borrow to buy then you're also forced to insure the property. It's as simple as that. Now, if people were forced to own property then had to pay property taxes and insurance, that would be a different story altogether. It seems to me if there's any such thing as a fair tax then property tax sure fits the bill. It seems correct to me the more property and the more expensive property you own you should be taxed on it on a percentage basis. Same percentage whether your property is worth fifty grand or fifty million grand. But there is help for the lower income folks. There is a 25K homestead exemption soon to go up to 50K on which the property owner pays not one thin dime. This helps out the low income people and sticks it to the rich. Boy are the rich ****s ever complaining and lobbying AGAINST the doubling of the homestead exemption. Seems like they don't mind sticking it to the poor but when they have to pay for their mansions they balk. Wilbur Hubbard The ability to own the land one lives upon is one of the most basic and vital sources of, and expressions of, liberty. And you act as if it's nothing more than a privilege? Hardly seems consistent with your usual politics. Where have you been? Don't you remember the recent Supreme Court decision that states it is legal for government to condemn private property for no other reason than so it can be sold to a developer in order to increase the tax base? A total abuse of the eminent domain principle. So much for the ability to own land. Not only that, but try not paying taxes on the land you "own" and see how long it takes before they take it away from you. Keep electing those Democrats. They appoint liberal judges who legislate from the bench and take away right after right. Keep blaming everybody but yourself for enabling these rapists. After all it wasn't your vote that put them there. Yah right! Wilbur Hubbard |
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* NE Sailboat wrote, On 3/12/2007 10:21 PM:
Jeff ,, let me take these one at a time... Housing? No, people don't want to live in Mass. The population has declined, According to who? Not the official census. in fact the state may lose at least one but maybe two Congressman because of this. If by "declined" you mean not growing as fast as some other parts of the country, you're right. The Big Dig a great system? Tell that to the lady who was killed when the tunnel collapsed on her car. A tragedy indeed. But everyone here understands that the Big Dig replaces the most deadly stretch of interstate highway in the country. Probably half a dozen people are alive today that would have died on the old system. In addition, think of the people that used to die of old age in the traffic jams ... The Ted Williams tunnel leaks! It is just a matter of time before the whole tunnel goes ... You must realize that the Ted Williams tunnel was built in Baltimore. The former Governor Romney got out because he could not govern. That's an understatement! And he wants to be president??? The Dems control the state. God bless em! GET OUT .. save yourself. I've been planning to head south when my daughter get through school. But if you'll promise to stay away, I might just hang out a while longer. |
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* Gogarty wrote, On 3/13/2007 8:34 AM:
Jeff, Your cool and calm air of total rebuttal in the face of so much mouth-foaming nonsense is greatly appreciated by this former resident of Marblehead. who heard way too much of the same sort of crap from the white pants set back in those days of H.M. Pulham, Esq. NE is nothing compared to jaxie! Pulham is a great movie, you don't see it much nowadays. And now for an almost total non-sequitur: Did you know that Hedy Lamarr, who starred in H.M. Pulham, Esq., invented the frequency-hopping technique that is now used by most cell phones? She and composer George Antheil were granted a patent on it in WWII as a technique for controlling missiles that couldn't be jammed. |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message ... "KLC Lewis" wrote in message ... The ability to own the land one lives upon is one of the most basic and vital sources of, and expressions of, liberty. And you act as if it's nothing more than a privilege? Hardly seems consistent with your usual politics. Where have you been? Don't you remember the recent Supreme Court decision that states it is legal for government to condemn private property for no other reason than so it can be sold to a developer in order to increase the tax base? A total abuse of the eminent domain principle. So much for the ability to own land. Not only that, but try not paying taxes on the land you "own" and see how long it takes before they take it away from you. Keep electing those Democrats. They appoint liberal judges who legislate from the bench and take away right after right. Keep blaming everybody but yourself for enabling these rapists. After all it wasn't your vote that put them there. Yah right! Wilbur Hubbard A: The Supreme Court was wrong. B: I am entirely aware of the lack of Allodial Title, and intimately aware that one does not have freehold to land "owned" in the United States -- neither did I say that it is right. To the contrary, it supports my original statement. C: I have never voted for a Democrat, nor for a Republican. |
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"Gogarty" wrote in message ... In article , llid says... Where have you been? Don't you remember the recent Supreme Court decision that states it is legal for government to condemn private property for no other reason than so it can be sold to a developer in order to increase the tax base? A total abuse of the eminent domain principle. Hey, Wilbur: What was the makeup of the Court that approved that extension of emminent domain? And who exactly were the people pushing for that decision so that they could take over and develp somebody else's private property? Five liberal justices voted in favor of the right to take the property. Four justices voted against. The five voting for were appointed by Democrat Presidents. The four voting against by Republican presidents. It was the developers who sued to take away the land. I don't know their political affiliation. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message ... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message ... "KLC Lewis" wrote in message ... The ability to own the land one lives upon is one of the most basic and vital sources of, and expressions of, liberty. And you act as if it's nothing more than a privilege? Hardly seems consistent with your usual politics. Where have you been? Don't you remember the recent Supreme Court decision that states it is legal for government to condemn private property for no other reason than so it can be sold to a developer in order to increase the tax base? A total abuse of the eminent domain principle. So much for the ability to own land. Not only that, but try not paying taxes on the land you "own" and see how long it takes before they take it away from you. Keep electing those Democrats. They appoint liberal judges who legislate from the bench and take away right after right. Keep blaming everybody but yourself for enabling these rapists. After all it wasn't your vote that put them there. Yah right! Wilbur Hubbard A: The Supreme Court was wrong. B: I am entirely aware of the lack of Allodial Title, and intimately aware that one does not have freehold to land "owned" in the United States -- neither did I say that it is right. To the contrary, it supports my original statement. C: I have never voted for a Democrat, nor for a Republican. You should vote for the most conservative candidate (who has a chance of winning) available in any election. Party affiliation should not be the deciding factor. The main difference between conservative candidates and liberal candidates is no Democrat candidate is conservative. Some conservative candidates are not necessary Republicans. The Libertarian Party candidates are generally more conservative than Republican candidates. However, to date at least, you have thrown your vote right down the toilet voting for a candidate who has no chance of winning. By wasting your vote you have, in effect, given liberals one more vote for their socialist agenda. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message ... "KLC Lewis" wrote in message ... A: The Supreme Court was wrong. B: I am entirely aware of the lack of Allodial Title, and intimately aware that one does not have freehold to land "owned" in the United States -- neither did I say that it is right. To the contrary, it supports my original statement. C: I have never voted for a Democrat, nor for a Republican. You should vote for the most conservative candidate (who has a chance of winning) available in any election. Party affiliation should not be the deciding factor. The main difference between conservative candidates and liberal candidates is no Democrat candidate is conservative. Some conservative candidates are not necessary Republicans. The Libertarian Party candidates are generally more conservative than Republican candidates. However, to date at least, you have thrown your vote right down the toilet voting for a candidate who has no chance of winning. By wasting your vote you have, in effect, given liberals one more vote for their socialist agenda. Wilbur Hubbard And by voting Republican you give weight to The Shrub and his illegal and immoral war, and his "Sherman's March" through the Constitution. A pox upon all their houses. |
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* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/13/2007 12:10 PM:
Where have you been? Don't you remember the recent Supreme Court decision that states it is legal for government to condemn private property for no other reason than so it can be sold to a developer in order to increase the tax base? A total abuse of the eminent domain principle. Hey, Wilbur: What was the makeup of the Court that approved that extension of emminent domain? And who exactly were the people pushing for that decision so that they could take over and develp somebody else's private property? Five liberal justices voted in favor of the right to take the property. Four justices voted against. The five voting for were appointed by Democrat Presidents. The four voting against by Republican presidents. It was the developers who sued to take away the land. I don't know their political affiliation. Five Supreme Court justices appointed by Democrats???? Its been a while since we've had that! John Roberts G.W. Bush September 29, 2005 John Paul Stevens Ford December 19, 1975 Antonin Scalia Reagan September 26, 1986 Anthony Kennedy Reagan February 18, 1988 David Souter G.H.W. Bush October 9, 1990 Clarence Thomas G.H.W. Bush October 23, 1991 Ruth Bader Ginsburg Clinton August 10, 1993 Stephen Breyer Clinton August 3, 1994 Samuel Alito G.W. Bush January 31, 2006 Also, Alito replaced Sandra Day O'Conner, who was nominated by Reagan; Roberts replaced William Rehnquist, who was nominated by Nixon So its been a long long time since the Supreme Court was controlled by Democratic nominees. You just flunked basic American History. Your citizenship has been revoked! |
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"Jeff" wrote in message . .. * Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/13/2007 12:10 PM: Where have you been? Don't you remember the recent Supreme Court decision that states it is legal for government to condemn private property for no other reason than so it can be sold to a developer in order to increase the tax base? A total abuse of the eminent domain principle. Hey, Wilbur: What was the makeup of the Court that approved that extension of emminent domain? And who exactly were the people pushing for that decision so that they could take over and develp somebody else's private property? Five liberal justices voted in favor of the right to take the property. Four justices voted against. The five voting for were appointed by Democrat Presidents. The four voting against by Republican presidents. It was the developers who sued to take away the land. I don't know their political affiliation. Five Supreme Court justices appointed by Democrats???? Its been a while since we've had that! John Roberts G.W. Bush September 29, 2005 John Paul Stevens Ford December 19, 1975 Antonin Scalia Reagan September 26, 1986 Anthony Kennedy Reagan February 18, 1988 David Souter G.H.W. Bush October 9, 1990 Clarence Thomas G.H.W. Bush October 23, 1991 Ruth Bader Ginsburg Clinton August 10, 1993 Stephen Breyer Clinton August 3, 1994 Samuel Alito G.W. Bush January 31, 2006 Also, Alito replaced Sandra Day O'Conner, who was nominated by Reagan; Roberts replaced William Rehnquist, who was nominated by Nixon So its been a long long time since the Supreme Court was controlled by Democratic nominees. You just flunked basic American History. Your citizenship has been revoked! You don't even have the right group, bonehead! Here's how it went down. Stevens was joined in the majority by Justices Anthony M. Kennedy, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer. If they weren't liberals to begin with they are recognized as liberals now. O'Connor was joined in her dissent by Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas. They wrote that the majority had tilted in favor of those with "disproportionate influence and power in the political process, including large corporations and development firms." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...300783_pf.html Go to the back of the class . . . Wilbur Hubbard |
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* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/13/2007 3:01 PM:
Five liberal justices voted in favor of the right to take the property. Four justices voted against. The five voting for were appointed by Democrat Presidents. The four voting against by Republican presidents. Five Supreme Court justices appointed by Democrats???? Its been a while since we've had that! John Roberts G.W. Bush September 29, 2005 John Paul Stevens Ford December 19, 1975 Antonin Scalia Reagan September 26, 1986 Anthony Kennedy Reagan February 18, 1988 David Souter G.H.W. Bush October 9, 1990 Clarence Thomas G.H.W. Bush October 23, 1991 Ruth Bader Ginsburg Clinton August 10, 1993 Stephen Breyer Clinton August 3, 1994 Samuel Alito G.W. Bush January 31, 2006 Also, Alito replaced Sandra Day O'Conner, who was nominated by Reagan; Roberts replaced William Rehnquist, who was nominated by Nixon So its been a long long time since the Supreme Court was controlled by Democratic nominees. You just flunked basic American History. Your citizenship has been revoked! You don't even have the right group, bonehead! Here's how it went down. Stevens was joined in the majority by Justices Anthony M. Kennedy, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer. If they weren't liberals to begin with they are recognized as liberals now. O'Connor was joined in her dissent by Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist and Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas. They wrote that the majority had tilted in favor of those with "disproportionate influence and power in the political process, including large corporations and development firms." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...300783_pf.html Go to the back of the class . . . Just like a Republican. When you're caught in a lie, you just deny what you said! You were very explicit in claiming that the five justices in favor were all "appointed by Democrat Presidents." In fact, as I showed, only two were. |
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