Hi,

I have a houseboat on a lake. The waves come in from
the side and cause a lot of rocking around. When a boat
causes waves, it only causes so many and then they are
gone. Sometimes they're followed by waves from another
boat though most of the time that's not a big part of it, but
it sure seems that the boats keep on bouncing around in
the slips long after the waves have past. It doesn't look
like the water is still bouncing around too...just the boats.
So is most of the bouncing caused by the ropes, and the
boats bouncing around between and because of them?

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:56:41 -0500, dh@. wrote:

It doesn't look
like the water is still bouncing around too...just the boats.
So is most of the bouncing caused by the ropes, and the
boats bouncing around between and because of them?

That would be my guess.

You get used to the motion after a while and don't even notice it.

dh@. wrote in message
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Hi,

I have a houseboat on a lake. The waves come in from
the side and cause a lot of rocking around. When a boat
causes waves, it only causes so many and then they are
gone. Sometimes they're followed by waves from another
boat though most of the time that's not a big part of it, but
it sure seems that the boats keep on bouncing around in
the slips long after the waves have past. It doesn't look
like the water is still bouncing around too...just the boats.
So is most of the bouncing caused by the ropes, and the
boats bouncing around between and because of them?

No, that's not it at all. In a marina you get waves bouncing off various
other boats, structures, seawalls etc. Waves on a beach become
dissipated but waves in a basin with vertical walls just bounce and
bounce and bounce until, over a period of time, they get smaller and
smaller. But they stay large enough to rock boats around for quite some
time. You should never keep your lines so tight that you bounce back and
forth between the lines. Your lines should have pronounced cantenary in
them.

Wilbur Hubbard

dh@. wrote in :

So is most of the bouncing caused by the ropes, and the
boats bouncing around between and because of them?



Nope....It's caused by "reflections", standing waves caused by the
initial wave reflecting off the hard surfaces of the other boats bouncing
around.

A wave is stored mechanical energy. It does two things...gets absorbed
by doing work like lifting boats and floats...or...is stored and
regenerated as more energy, bouncing off fixed objects or being
regenerated by moving objects in various odd directions caused by their
position and shapes.

When the wave lifts your boat, for instance, some of the wave is
immediately reflected back towards it source by the hard hull. Other of
its energy is actually STORED in the boat's mass by lifting the boat out
of the water. This stored energy is mostly regenerated when the boat
goes over the crest and its mass forces the boat hull back down in the
water, causing a new wave radiating out in all directions from the
hourglass hull. So, we made new waves and lost a little energy in the
air resistance of moving the boat and water resistance of moving the hull
in the water. Those docklines also absorbed some of the energy and got
hot when you stretched them out and back.

As you can see, if we compound this physics lesson by 200 boats tied to
floating docks going up and down across a marina, waves bouncing off
fixed bulkheads, piers, pilings, the marina soon turns into a mass chaos
of regenerated/reflected waves that seem to go on and on and on long
after the initial waves from a passing boat have gotten lost in the
mayhem. All this energy came from the motor of the waking boat....or the
wind that made normal waves across the harbor.

Of course, even more complex waveforms result from that young guy and his
new girlfriend you can hear screaming through the hull, five finger piers
down F-dock...(c; These are easily identified, compared to normal waves,
as they increase in intensity and become very irratic just before they
stop...(c;

Larry
--
Any boat seemingly rocking excessively for no apparent reason is best
left alone until the violent oscillations and internal screaming stops.

dh@. wrote:
Hi,

I have a houseboat on a lake. The waves come in from
the side and cause a lot of rocking around. When a boat
causes waves, it only causes so many and then they are
gone. Sometimes they're followed by waves from another
boat though most of the time that's not a big part of it, but
it sure seems that the boats keep on bouncing around in
the slips long after the waves have past. It doesn't look
like the water is still bouncing around too...just the boats.
So is most of the bouncing caused by the ropes, and the
boats bouncing around between and because of them?
Those aren't "ropes", they are lines.

krj wrote in news:3c1Jh.6647$B7.5830@bigfe9:

Those aren't "ropes", they are lines.



On lake houseboats they're "ropes"....

Larry
--
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aliens gobbling up goods and services, creating
shortages for the natives? I heard 40%!