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"capt.bill11" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 25, 8:43 am, "NE Sailboat" wrote: Mark my words... The revolution is coming .. and it is not going to be pretty. Yes, but will it be televised? and if so..in High Definition? |
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"capt.bill11" wrote in
ups.com: Yes, but will it be televised? Not necessarily. Some slut could die, which will be used to divert the publics' collective attention away from the event for weeks on end as TV watches the lawyers divide up the slut's money away from her kid. Larry -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEJmc...elated&search= |
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Was 9/11 televised? Yes ... and the folks jumping out of the buildings?
Was that a big joke to you? You don't think that if living conditions become so painful, that if taxes continue to go up, and corruption continues at the present pace, that when we/usa are hit with a disaster of huge proportions such as natural, or economic and the average American becomes so overburdens that he/she can't take it anymore .... You think this can't happen here? Why.. why not? We aren't so different that everywhere else on earth. The average length of a democracy in history is 200 years. We have reached the milestone! It isn't outside forces that will destroy us. It is us! We have met the enemy and he is "us". How long do you think a country can exist that does not have secure borders? How many more millions of illegals do you think we can "support" before we are bankrupt? Put your head in the sand if you want .. In New Hampshire our motto is "Live Free or Die". We take that motto very seriously. ========================== "capt.bill11" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 25, 8:43 am, "NE Sailboat" wrote: Mark my words... The revolution is coming .. and it is not going to be pretty. Yes, but will it be televised? |
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Larry ,,, now now ... yes, Anna was a slut. But ,, if you were Da Man ..
and Anna was your slut ?? I've been ****ed ever since hearing of her death. She was beautiful. Hillary Clinton is ugly. Makes no sense. We lose a beauty and are still stuck with the ugly lesbian bitch. ============================================ "Larry" wrote in message ... "capt.bill11" wrote in ups.com: Yes, but will it be televised? Not necessarily. Some slut could die, which will be used to divert the publics' collective attention away from the event for weeks on end as TV watches the lawyers divide up the slut's money away from her kid. Larry -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEJmc...elated&search= |
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"NE Sailboat" wrote in message news:dxiEh.3741$iF.3343@trndny03... Larry ,,, now now ... yes, Anna was a slut. But ,, if you were Da Man .. and Anna was your slut ?? I've been ****ed ever since hearing of her death. She was beautiful. Hillary Clinton is ugly. Makes no sense. We lose a beauty and are still stuck with the ugly lesbian bitch. Anna Nicole was a "beauty"? I suppose so, if your idea of "beauty" is a plastic inflatable doll. No, that's not fair. The inflatable doll is smarter. As for Hillary, her ideas are certainly ugly, but...well, she's not my cuppa either. But what doe her physical appearance have to do with anything? I'd vote for Medusa if it meant getting good, decent government. |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in message et... "NE Sailboat" wrote in message news:dxiEh.3741$iF.3343@trndny03... Larry ,,, now now ... yes, Anna was a slut. But ,, if you were Da Man .. and Anna was your slut ?? I've been ****ed ever since hearing of her death. She was beautiful. Hillary Clinton is ugly. Makes no sense. We lose a beauty and are still stuck with the ugly lesbian bitch. Anna Nicole was a "beauty"? I suppose so, if your idea of "beauty" is a plastic inflatable doll. No, that's not fair. The inflatable doll is smarter. As for Hillary, her ideas are certainly ugly, but...well, she's not my cuppa either. But what doe her physical appearance have to do with anything? I'd vote for Medusa if it meant getting good, decent government. Not to imply that voting for Hillary would result in good, decent government. It would further promote the "Presidential Legacy" of the Bush and Clintons, and that's simply a bad, bad idea. Further, Hillary is nothing but a trough-feeding politician who can't get enough power to suit her. She is entirely unsuitable for the office of the President in my opinion. But then again, so is The Shrub. |
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On Feb 25, 11:43 am, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Was 9/11 televised? Yes ... and the folks jumping out of the buildings? Was that a big joke to you? Relax and enjoy a cup of warmed hard cider. I think the winter weather has chilled you right down to your funny bone. In New Hampshire our motto is "Live Free or Die". We take that motto very seriously. I lived there for a while. I seem to remember the folks having a good sense of humor. Perhaps things have changed. To bad. |
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Captain ,, I like to laugh. But not about important issues such as the war
of terror. My friend was on one of the planes that went into the World Trade Tower. Tell her family to laugh. ================== "capt.bill11" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 25, 11:43 am, "NE Sailboat" wrote: Was 9/11 televised? Yes ... and the folks jumping out of the buildings? Was that a big joke to you? Relax and enjoy a cup of warmed hard cider. I think the winter weather has chilled you right down to your funny bone. In New Hampshire our motto is "Live Free or Die". We take that motto very seriously. I lived there for a while. I seem to remember the folks having a good sense of humor. Perhaps things have changed. To bad. |
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"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et: As for Hillary, her ideas are certainly ugly, but...well, she's not my cuppa either. But what doe her physical appearance have to do with anything? I'd vote for Medusa if it meant getting good, decent government. I just walked in from dinner at my fav Chinese buffet. On the way home, Bob Brinker of "Money Talk" on gripe radio was discussing what the vegas odds makers are giving the various Oscar candidates and presidential candidates, at the moment. The Vegas bookies are showing Hilliary in a lead over Obama running Democrats....but scarier, they have Hillary the overall best bet for Prez over all candidates. The Illuminati bankers must be very proud....They'll have the masonic Clintons back in the saddle to take orders again! Larry -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEJmc...elated&search= |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... "KLC Lewis" wrote in et: As for Hillary, her ideas are certainly ugly, but...well, she's not my cuppa either. But what doe her physical appearance have to do with anything? I'd vote for Medusa if it meant getting good, decent government. I just walked in from dinner at my fav Chinese buffet. On the way home, Bob Brinker of "Money Talk" on gripe radio was discussing what the vegas odds makers are giving the various Oscar candidates and presidential candidates, at the moment. The Vegas bookies are showing Hilliary in a lead over Obama running Democrats....but scarier, they have Hillary the overall best bet for Prez over all candidates. The Illuminati bankers must be very proud....They'll have the masonic Clintons back in the saddle to take orders again! Larry -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEJmc...elated&search= How do you know the other candidates don't belong to the Free Masons? |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... "KLC Lewis" wrote in et: Thanks for the Aaron Russo link, by the way. That's the first time I've ever watched an entire film on YouTube, but worth every minute of it. Try a little test around town. Ask randomly selected people you happen to be standing in line with if they think the US Government prints their money. 99.99% think it's government money, not private money. This Freemasonic bank corporation is part of the "New World Order" to enslave us, which it has already accomplished. Look at the $1 bill..... snip... A local guy did a documentary on the freemasonsa couple of years ago and now plans to do a follow-up. Only trouble is.. he's a freemason himself...so any questionable parts will probably be left out. http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/fiction/documentary.html |
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"Don White" wrote in news:_fqEh.1372$PV3.19331
@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca: How do you know the other candidates don't belong to the Free Masons? They do....all the ones that matter. So, YOU get to choose the lawyer of THEIR choice. Isn't that convenient? Larry -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEJmc...elated&search= |
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http://www.atomfilms.com/film/rodham_rap.jsp If you love Hilary.......... "Don White" wrote in news:_fqEh.1372$PV3.19331 @ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca: How do you know the other candidates don't belong to the Free Masons? They do....all the ones that matter. So, YOU get to choose the lawyer of THEIR choice. Isn't that convenient? Larry |
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On Feb 25, 6:25 pm, "NE Sailboat" wrote:
Captain ,, I like to laugh. But not about important issues such as the war of terror. My friend was on one of the planes that went into the World Trade Tower. Tell her family to laugh. =================="capt.bill11" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 25, 11:43 am, "NE Sailboat" wrote: Was 9/11 televised? Yes ... and the folks jumping out of the buildings? Was that a big joke to you? Relax and enjoy a cup of warmed hard cider. I think the winter weather has chilled you right down to your funny bone. In New Hampshire our motto is "Live Free or Die". We take that motto very seriously. I lived there for a while. I seem to remember the folks having a good sense of humor. Perhaps things have changed. To bad.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Don't be an ass. You know I was in no way making light of 9/11. Your post I was replying to did not even mention 9/11. |
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"Don White" wrote in
: Only trouble is.. he's a freemason himself...so any questionable parts will probably be left out. Sworn to secrecy, he won't be one for long. The lower ranks have no idea what the upper ranks are doing. Larry -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEJmc...elated&search= |
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Gogarty wrote in
: My money, literally, is on Gore. One thing Democrats don't like is a loser. Once a Democrat has lost, I can't remember them ever running again in my brief lifetime, can you? Have you noticed how fast names like Dukakis, Humphrey, etc., just vaporize on election night? The boy just shoots himself in the foot to easily. He invented the internet? BANG!...See? Let's hand him two new Vista PCs, a bunch of Ethernet patch cables, a cable modem already hooked up and a new Linksys router and see if he can make such a simple hookup work in 20 minutes. It'd be fun to watch....(c; To be fair, just like the 9/11 terrorists who couldn't fly but could fly into buildings and around Washington, I'm shocked that W can actually fly airplanes. Amazing!....(c; Larry -- I have a new strategy to protect the Mexican border. From the border to inside the USA, 1 mile, we turn it into our OPEN PIT nuclear waste dump, turning it into a no-mans-land for tens of thousands of years. Anyone attempting to cross will simply be eaten alive by neutrons! Problem solved! |
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Adlai Ewing Stevenson II (February 5, 1900 - July 14, 1965) was an American
politician, noted for intellectual demeanor and advocacy of liberal causes in the Democratic party. He served one term as governor of Illinois and lost, by landslides, in two races for president against Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1952 and 1956. He was Ambassador to the United Nations, 1961-65 Adlai ran twice .. lost twice. ===================== My money, literally, is on Gore. One thing Democrats don't like is a loser. Once a Democrat has lost, I can't remember them ever running again in my brief lifetime, can you? Have you noticed how fast names like Dukakis, Humphrey, etc., just vaporize on election night? The boy just shoots himself in the foot to easily. He invented the internet? BANG!...See? Let's hand him two new Vista PCs, a bunch of Ethernet patch cables, a cable modem already hooked up and a new Linksys router and see if he can make such a simple hookup work in 20 minutes. It'd be fun to watch....(c; To be fair, just like the 9/11 terrorists who couldn't fly but could fly into buildings and around Washington, I'm shocked that W can actually fly airplanes. Amazing!....(c; Larry -- I have a new strategy to protect the Mexican border. From the border to inside the USA, 1 mile, we turn it into our OPEN PIT nuclear waste dump, turning it into a no-mans-land for tens of thousands of years. Anyone attempting to cross will simply be eaten alive by neutrons! Problem solved! |
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On Feb 26, 2:52 pm, Larry wrote:
Gogarty wrote : My money, literally, is on Gore. One thing Democrats don't like is a loser. Once a Democrat has lost, I can't remember them ever running again in my brief lifetime, can you? Have you noticed how fast names like Dukakis, Humphrey, etc., just vaporize on election night? The boy just shoots himself in the foot to easily. He invented the internet? BANG!...See? Good God Larry! At least try and get your facts straight. He never said he "invented" the internet for crying out loud. http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue5_10/wiggins/ |
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He looks like he "ate" the internet! That poor boy is FAT.
============================================= "capt.bill11" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 26, 2:52 pm, Larry wrote: Gogarty wrote : My money, literally, is on Gore. One thing Democrats don't like is a loser. Once a Democrat has lost, I can't remember them ever running again in my brief lifetime, can you? Have you noticed how fast names like Dukakis, Humphrey, etc., just vaporize on election night? The boy just shoots himself in the foot to easily. He invented the internet? BANG!...See? Good God Larry! At least try and get your facts straight. He never said he "invented" the internet for crying out loud. http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue5_10/wiggins/ |
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"capt.bill11" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 26, 2:52 pm, Larry wrote: Gogarty wrote : My money, literally, is on Gore. One thing Democrats don't like is a loser. Once a Democrat has lost, I can't remember them ever running again in my brief lifetime, can you? Have you noticed how fast names like Dukakis, Humphrey, etc., just vaporize on election night? The boy just shoots himself in the foot to easily. He invented the internet? BANG!...See? Good God Larry! At least try and get your facts straight. He never said he "invented" the internet for crying out loud. http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue5_10/wiggins/ Yeah! He didn't "invent" it, he "created" it. How could anyone get those two concepts confused? :-D |
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The whole explanation about how cops are misrepresented by the press
rings true because there is certainly a degree of truth to it. On the other hand, there is Fox News and a host of other media organizations and individuals who love to find documentable examples of a liberal press run amok and burn the liberals with their own fire of public exposure. .....Shrug.... Checks and balances at work, I think. But it strikes me that in the previous discussion, what I think was most offensive about the Florida zealot officer, and what is unforgivably offensive about the rotund woman reportedly brutalized on film is a complete lack of common sense displayed by the law enforcement officials. If a person does not know that there are other options available besides tasering this woman and physically dragging her out of her vehicle, and so on.... then that person does not need to be dealing with the general public. That person's duty needs to be restricted to dealing solely with people who are alway a real physical risk to him. Because that is, obviously, the only way he knows how to respond. It is just not critical that that woman get out of her car at that particular instant. Similarly, it is just not critical to Florida's boat registration statutes that an officer use that as a lever to press himself on any and every vessel registered elsewhere than Florida. In the case of the Florida officer, perhaps he can be taught to be more rational in the pursuit of his duty. Perhaps the letter writing, or filming suggestions will bear fruit. I hope so. Thankfully, I did not read any reports of him becoming physically abusive. In the case of police officers who think their training of how to subdue violent criminals caught in the act of violent crimes is to be applied to middle aged rotund women who are reluctant to cooperate just exactly and as quickly as the officer would have them do, then I think that person is a grave danger to society. Perhaps he would be of use in a maximum security facility. More likely, he is psychologically unsuited to the police profession. In a word, I don't care if the Florida zealot is right and a boat should be registered. I don't care if he catches a boater in flagrant violation of that statute. Smile. Be polite. Explain the transgression. Write up the citation. And then, he should be on his way. With a nice wave and an admonition to get the paperwork sorted out. Similarly, I don't care if the woman stopped for a traffic violation said, no I'm not getting out of my car. I don't care if she said that if the cop tried to drag her out of her car she would hit him. The cop should have the skill to realize the woman is afraid. She is likely not herself. Screaming at her is only going to make everything worse! The cop escalated the encounter! The cop can call a female officer who may be able to relate to the fearful woman holed up in her van. The cop can call for more people. If worse comes to worst, two or three guys can reach in and as gently as possible pry her out of her car. She can be arrested. She can be punished by the judge. With fines. With license revocation. With jail time. That's the judge's job. The judge decides how much she has to pay for the amount of trouble she causes. When the cops decide they're going to be physically overbearing and bring her to heel in a physical way, they have in effect imposed a judgement and a penalty on her. That is not their job. These law enforcement officers (either on the water or on the street) can not be allowed to create their own personal fiefdoms. If the taser is a tool of the cop, the cop is a tool of the legal system. Force is his to use as it is necessary, and not one bit farther than that. It is not for him to decide that for the sake of his time, he is going to bring a situation to a head. Right now! It was said that the cops dealing with the woman were following procedure. I bet the Florida warden says the same thing. He's following procedure. That can not be a shield for intimidating (or worse, physically brutalizing) members of the public, be they boaters or drivers. The mentality that this type of behavior is appropriate when dealing with anyone other than a person who is a clear and present danger must not be allowed to prevail! All the examples about how police are misunderstood and misrepresented was pretty convincing. Until I thought it through. On Feb 22, 6:17 pm, Rick Morel wrote: No, but it's almost as much fun as dragging a little old 80 year old lady out of a car, throwing her onto the dirty concrete, popping her a few times with the baton, spray her with OC pepper spray, then Tasering her, all the while the unit cam is running so we can play it back at the station over and over. OF COURSE I'M KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!! Rick |
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On Feb 26, 7:11 pm, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"capt.bill11" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 26, 2:52 pm, Larry wrote: Gogarty wrote : My money, literally, is on Gore. One thing Democrats don't like is a loser. Once a Democrat has lost, I can't remember them ever running again in my brief lifetime, can you? Have you noticed how fast names like Dukakis, Humphrey, etc., just vaporize on election night? The boy just shoots himself in the foot to easily. He invented the internet? BANG!...See? Good God Larry! At least try and get your facts straight. He never said he "invented" the internet for crying out loud. http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue5_10/wiggins/ Yeah! He didn't "invent" it, he "created" it. How could anyone get those two concepts confused? :-D- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You, like NE Sailboat, need to learn to read for content. |
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On Feb 26, 8:44 pm, wrote:
The whole explanation about how cops are misrepresented by the press rings true because there is certainly a degree of truth to it. On the other hand, there is Fox News and a host of other media organizations and individuals who love to find documentable examples of a liberal press run amok and burn the liberals with their own fire of public exposure. ....Shrug.... Checks and balances at work, I think. But it strikes me that in the previous discussion, what I think was most offensive about the Florida zealot officer, and what is unforgivably offensive about the rotund woman reportedly brutalized on film is a complete lack of common sense displayed by the law enforcement officials. If a person does not know that there are other options available besides tasering this woman and physically dragging her out of her vehicle, and so on.... then that person does not need to be dealing with the general public. That person's duty needs to be restricted to dealing solely with people who are alway a real physical risk to him. Because that is, obviously, the only way he knows how to respond. It is just not critical that that woman get out of her car at that particular instant. Similarly, it is just not critical to Florida's boat registration statutes that an officer use that as a lever to press himself on any and every vessel registered elsewhere than Florida. In the case of the Florida officer, perhaps he can be taught to be more rational in the pursuit of his duty. Perhaps the letter writing, or filming suggestions will bear fruit. I hope so. Thankfully, I did not read any reports of him becoming physically abusive. In the case of police officers who think their training of how to subdue violent criminals caught in the act of violent crimes is to be applied to middle aged rotund women who are reluctant to cooperate just exactly and as quickly as the officer would have them do, then I think that person is a grave danger to society. Perhaps he would be of use in a maximum security facility. More likely, he is psychologically unsuited to the police profession. In a word, I don't care if the Florida zealot is right and a boat should be registered. I don't care if he catches a boater in flagrant violation of that statute. Smile. Be polite. Explain the transgression. Write up the citation. And then, he should be on his way. With a nice wave and an admonition to get the paperwork sorted out. Similarly, I don't care if the woman stopped for a traffic violation said, no I'm not getting out of my car. I don't care if she said that if the cop tried to drag her out of her car she would hit him. The cop should have the skill to realize the woman is afraid. She is likely not herself. Screaming at her is only going to make everything worse! The cop escalated the encounter! The cop can call a female officer who may be able to relate to the fearful woman holed up in her van. The cop can call for more people. If worse comes to worst, two or three guys can reach in and as gently as possible pry her out of her car. She can be arrested. She can be punished by the judge. With fines. With license revocation. With jail time. That's the judge's job. The judge decides how much she has to pay for the amount of trouble she causes. When the cops decide they're going to be physically overbearing and bring her to heel in a physical way, they have in effect imposed a judgement and a penalty on her. That is not their job. These law enforcement officers (either on the water or on the street) can not be allowed to create their own personal fiefdoms. If the taser is a tool of the cop, the cop is a tool of the legal system. Force is his to use as it is necessary, and not one bit farther than that. It is not for him to decide that for the sake of his time, he is going to bring a situation to a head. Right now! It was said that the cops dealing with the woman were following procedure. I bet the Florida warden says the same thing. He's following procedure. That can not be a shield for intimidating (or worse, physically brutalizing) members of the public, be they boaters or drivers. The mentality that this type of behavior is appropriate when dealing with anyone other than a person who is a clear and present danger must not be allowed to prevail! All the examples about how police are misunderstood and misrepresented was pretty convincing. Until I thought it through. Very well said. And no, I didn't not snip this, as I feel it needs to be said again and again. |
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Capt ................ Billy.
Remember: if Gore gets elected, you will paying for "his" food. Could cause a recession at his present weight. "capt.bill11" wrote in message ps.com... On Feb 26, 7:11 pm, "KLC Lewis" wrote: "capt.bill11" wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 26, 2:52 pm, Larry wrote: Gogarty wrote : My money, literally, is on Gore. One thing Democrats don't like is a loser. Once a Democrat has lost, I can't remember them ever running again in my brief lifetime, can you? Have you noticed how fast names like Dukakis, Humphrey, etc., just vaporize on election night? The boy just shoots himself in the foot to easily. He invented the internet? BANG!...See? Good God Larry! At least try and get your facts straight. He never said he "invented" the internet for crying out loud. http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue5_10/wiggins/ Yeah! He didn't "invent" it, he "created" it. How could anyone get those two concepts confused? :-D- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You, like NE Sailboat, need to learn to read for content. |
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Rick,, save us the boo hoo of the poor cop bull****. Most of the cops I
deal with are a bunch of stupid lying thieves. Big city corrupt morons who only want the "detail" money. The best thing ever is the video camera. Makes suing the *******s so much more fun! |
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On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:50:48 GMT, "NE Sailboat"
wrote: Rick,, save us the boo hoo of the poor cop bull****. Most of the cops I deal with are a bunch of stupid lying thieves. Big city corrupt morons who only want the "detail" money. Ain't no boo hoo of the poor cop bull****. It's an explanation of how we do our jobs and why there are procedures to do that job, and how one can't make judgements with very incomplete information. I'd hate to live where you do if all the cops there are like that. Of course the "I deal with" you wrote up there could be dealing with them as prey. In that case I can understand your position. The best thing ever is the video camera. Makes suing the *******s so much more fun! Agree. The police unit cam especially. Timecoded, unedited video in court if it gets that far. Rick |
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I agree with the comments quoted below.
For another insight into alternative ways to train officers I urge you to listen to Police Captain Cheri Maples who appeared on the NPR program "Speaking of Faith" where she talked about a retreat on the practice of mindfulness in a world of violence given by Thich Nhat Hanh in eastern Wisconsin for more than 50 people who work in the criminal justice system, about half of them police officers. It changed her approach to her job, and may well have saved the life of a citizen she encountered in a domestic violence incident. You can listen to the entire show, which I highly recommend, or just read the transcript: http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.o...anh/transcript shtml The pertinent section begins about 1/4 way down the page. You can also search the page for "Wisconsin" and read from there. But it really is best to hear the woman officer in her own voice tell the story. The link to the downloadable podcast is at the top of the page. Similarly, I don't care if the woman stopped for a traffic violation said, no I'm not getting out of my car. I don't care if she said that if the cop tried to drag her out of her car she would hit him. The cop should have the skill to realize the woman is afraid. She is likely not herself. Screaming at her is only going to make everything worse! The cop escalated the encounter! The cop can call a female officer who may be able to relate to the fearful woman holed up in her van. The cop can call for more people. If worse comes to worst, two or three guys can reach in and as gently as possible pry her out of her car. She can be arrested. She can be punished by the judge. With fines. With license revocation. With jail time. That's the judge's job. The judge decides how much she has to pay for the amount |
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wrote in message ... I agree with the comments quoted below. For another insight into alternative ways to train officers I urge you to listen to Police Captain Cheri Maples who appeared on the NPR program "Speaking of Faith" where she talked about a retreat on the practice of mindfulness in a world of violence given by Thich Nhat Hanh in eastern Wisconsin for more than 50 people who work in the criminal justice system, about half of them police officers. It changed her approach to her job, and may well have saved the life of a citizen she encountered in a domestic violence incident. You can listen to the entire show, which I highly recommend, or just read the transcript: http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.o...anh/transcript shtml The pertinent section begins about 1/4 way down the page. You can also search the page for "Wisconsin" and read from there. But it really is best to hear the woman officer in her own voice tell the story. The link to the downloadable podcast is at the top of the page. Cops escalate violence. That's their job. If the "perp" has a fist, they bring a club. If the "perp" has a club, they bring a gun, and so on and so on. Cops believe that fear of cops is irrational, and that anyone who behaves irrationally must be brought under control -- for their own protection, of course. If this means that someone must be tased, or beaten, or stomped, or shot...well, the person shouldn't have been behaving irrationally. They brought it all upon themselves. Cops who appear to be trying to peacefully defuse a situation are usually acting as a diversion for the SWAT team sneaking in through the back door. Stereotypical TV drama perspective? Perhaps. But I'm given to believe that it's more truth than fiction. Similarly, I don't care if the woman stopped for a traffic violation said, no I'm not getting out of my car. I don't care if she said that if the cop tried to drag her out of her car she would hit him. The cop should have the skill to realize the woman is afraid. She is likely not herself. Screaming at her is only going to make everything worse! The cop escalated the encounter! The cop can call a female officer who may be able to relate to the fearful woman holed up in her van. The cop can call for more people. If worse comes to worst, two or three guys can reach in and as gently as possible pry her out of her car. She can be arrested. She can be punished by the judge. With fines. With license revocation. With jail time. That's the judge's job. The judge decides how much she has to pay for the amount |
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Venice, FL bad water cop
Rick Morel wrote in
: Most importantly do you, as an officer sworn to protect and serve (and with few exceptions we take that very seriously) and as a human being, want to be responsible for one or more deaths of innocent people? Sworn to protect and serve the Public....or, more accurately, the District Attorney to help him/her get re-elected by having a huge conviction rate, at whatever cost? We are now a government run by the lawyer elite members of an "upper class", members of certain elite cults, such as Skull and Bones, Freemasons or Bohemian Grove...the "New World Order" spoken of in the Freemason's Seal on the back of every Freemason Federal Reserve private bank note in your pocket. THOSE are who the cops "protect and serve", their masters who sign their checks and promote them to new levels of incompetence. Cops are the elites' enforcement arm to force the rest of us to do what we are told, with new weapons like the Taser and the Army's new high-powered microwave crowd control weapon: http://www.mondovista.com/microwave.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml? xml=/news/2004/09/19/wirq319.xml http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72134-0.html http://www.newscientisttech.com/arti...feedId=online- news_rss20 from this one: "Fellow citizensThe secretary of the US Air Force, Michael Wynne, said recently that new non-lethal weapons like the microwave ADS should be used on Americans before being deployed to places like Iraq. "If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," he told CNN. Hammond hopes these comments may stimulate debate on the use of the ADS and other non-lethal weapons. "I think that you would see a strongly negative public reaction and quite possibly an increase in violence if US police were to use the ADS in riot control," he told New Scientist. "I'm sad to say that such an outpouring of concern would probably be considerably more muted if the weapon was deployed in Iraq first." They're designing them to be used on US, the citizens who may try to rise up and put a stop to this MADNESS..... Wake up, stupids! Who do you think this weapon is for? http://www.viewzone.com/haarp00.html Larry -- I have a new strategy to protect the Mexican border. From the border to inside the USA, 1 mile, we turn it into our OPEN PIT nuclear waste dump, turning it into a no-mans-land for tens of thousands of years. Anyone attempting to cross will simply be eaten alive by neutrons! Problem solved! |
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