recommended flare gun ?
 

I've never seen a plastic 25mm flare pistol. A 16ga shotgun shell doesn't
have that much of a kick anyway. Also, the adapter was machined out of solid
stainless and had
some heft, about 1/4" wall thickness. I doubt that it would kick that much.
I'm kicking myself for not buying one of the adapters while I had the
chance. These .410
adapters are probably the next best thing. I wouldn't want to be on the
receiving
end of a .410 blast at pistol range.

Doug

"Over40pirate" wrote in message
...
Doug Dotson wrote:
I carry the Olin 25mm kit. .. The 25mm gun will also accept the
16ga
shotgun shell adapter..

OUCH! Back when American peasants were allowed weapons a friend had a
single shot 12 Ga sawed-off at the pistol grip and fore end. Despite
retaining about half its original weight it was quite punishing to
shoot. I'm not sure which end of a light plastic Olin I'd rather be on
when firing a 16Ga, and this from a nut who's carry gun is a LW 44
Magnum.

Anybody know offhand what "gauge" 25mm equates to?

No, but 25mm is about an inch. 12 gauge is about 3/4". Of course,
the kick will be largely dependant upon the powder charge. I have
25mm flares, but I've yet to fire one, so I don't know how bad they
are. The small(ish) gun fires both regular and parachute flares, the
latter having what amounts to its own barrel. I can't imagine they
would be wicked bad - they are supposed to be a safety device!

--
I carry on board a metal 25mm flair gun. The kick from these is not very
bad. I
would be interested in hearing from anyone who has actually used one of
the
inserts that were advertised to shoot shotgun shells from flair guns. The
ad's
I remember seeing, didn't say anything about not using them in a plastic
gun.
K

recommended flare gun ?
 

The only 16ga adaptors I know about are lightweight and meant only for
firing flares ( flares are fairly harmless but don't tell Hollywood ) ,
shotgun shells would blow-up, immediately . The 410 Adaptors are fine for a
oneshot bird gun. To go hunting for AK47's think again...

LS


"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
I've never seen a plastic 25mm flare pistol. A 16ga shotgun shell doesn't
have that much of a kick anyway. Also, the adapter was machined out of
solid
stainless and had
some heft, about 1/4" wall thickness. I doubt that it would kick that
much.
I'm kicking myself for not buying one of the adapters while I had the
chance. These .410
adapters are probably the next best thing. I wouldn't want to be on the
receiving
end of a .410 blast at pistol range.

Doug

"Over40pirate" wrote in message
...
Doug Dotson wrote:
I carry the Olin 25mm kit. .. The 25mm gun will also accept the
16ga
shotgun shell adapter..

OUCH! Back when American peasants were allowed weapons a friend had a
single shot 12 Ga sawed-off at the pistol grip and fore end. Despite
retaining about half its original weight it was quite punishing to
shoot. I'm not sure which end of a light plastic Olin I'd rather be on
when firing a 16Ga, and this from a nut who's carry gun is a LW 44
Magnum.

recommended flare gun ?
 

The only 16ga adaptors I know about are lightweight and meant only for
firing flares ( flares are fairly harmless but don't tell Hollywood ) ,
shotgun shells would blow-up, immediately . The 410 Adaptors are fine for a
oneshot bird gun. To go hunting for AK47's think again...

LS


"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
I've never seen a plastic 25mm flare pistol. A 16ga shotgun shell doesn't
have that much of a kick anyway. Also, the adapter was machined out of
solid
stainless and had
some heft, about 1/4" wall thickness. I doubt that it would kick that
much.
I'm kicking myself for not buying one of the adapters while I had the
chance. These .410
adapters are probably the next best thing. I wouldn't want to be on the
receiving
end of a .410 blast at pistol range.

Doug

"Over40pirate" wrote in message
...
Doug Dotson wrote:
I carry the Olin 25mm kit. .. The 25mm gun will also accept the
16ga
shotgun shell adapter..

OUCH! Back when American peasants were allowed weapons a friend had a
single shot 12 Ga sawed-off at the pistol grip and fore end. Despite
retaining about half its original weight it was quite punishing to
shoot. I'm not sure which end of a light plastic Olin I'd rather be on
when firing a 16Ga, and this from a nut who's carry gun is a LW 44
Magnum.

recommended flare gun ?
 

It seems that the height of the shoot and the brightness are limited
somewhat by the flare being handheld. Does anyone make a larger flare
that you strap to the deck and fire? We have all seen (I presume)
large fireworks that shoot very high and have a very bright explosion.
Why couldn't we have an emergency flare like that? Probably
prohibitively expensive. If you will pardon the joke, fireworks
aren't rocket science. G Actually they are very simple. Wonder if
a person could build some for him/herself. Of course they would not
be counted by the USCG or your local equivalent, but the point would
be to safe your life. Just wondering and interested in the thoughts
of the other posters.

Lee Huddleston
s/v Truelove
lying Sea Gate Marina
Beaufort, NC

recommended flare gun ?
 

This one was specifically designed for use with 16ga shotgun
shells for use in a 25mm flaregun. Specific purpose was for
defense aboard ship. If you consider the diameter of the 25mm
gun and the 16ga shell you can get an idea of the wall thickness.
It was machined out of solid 316 SS. Very robust device. All
water under the bridge now since it seems to have dissappeared
off the market. The site I found was selling off their stock at $125
per unit. Should have bought one when I had the chance.

Doug

"Larry Starr" wrote in message
...
The only 16ga adaptors I know about are lightweight and meant only for
firing flares ( flares are fairly harmless but don't tell Hollywood ) ,
shotgun shells would blow-up, immediately . The 410 Adaptors are fine for
a
oneshot bird gun. To go hunting for AK47's think again...

LS


"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
I've never seen a plastic 25mm flare pistol. A 16ga shotgun shell
doesn't
have that much of a kick anyway. Also, the adapter was machined out of
solid
stainless and had
some heft, about 1/4" wall thickness. I doubt that it would kick that
much.
I'm kicking myself for not buying one of the adapters while I had the
chance. These .410
adapters are probably the next best thing. I wouldn't want to be on the
receiving
end of a .410 blast at pistol range.

Doug

"Over40pirate" wrote in message
...
Doug Dotson wrote:
I carry the Olin 25mm kit. .. The 25mm gun will also accept the
16ga
shotgun shell adapter..

OUCH! Back when American peasants were allowed weapons a friend had
a
single shot 12 Ga sawed-off at the pistol grip and fore end. Despite
retaining about half its original weight it was quite punishing to
shoot. I'm not sure which end of a light plastic Olin I'd rather be
on
when firing a 16Ga, and this from a nut who's carry gun is a LW 44
Magnum.

recommended flare gun ?
 

OOPS! I did some searching back through my posts when this
subject came up last year. It was a .410 shell that it fires. Apparently
I did find some reference to a 16ga adapter, but never was able
to track down a source. That will teach me to go cruising for a year.
Just seach for "Flare Gun Adapter" and you will find all kinds of
interesting adapters for both 25mm and 12ga flareguns.

DOug

"Larry Starr" wrote in message
...
The only 16ga adaptors I know about are lightweight and meant only for
firing flares ( flares are fairly harmless but don't tell Hollywood ) ,
shotgun shells would blow-up, immediately . The 410 Adaptors are fine for
a
oneshot bird gun. To go hunting for AK47's think again...

LS


"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
I've never seen a plastic 25mm flare pistol. A 16ga shotgun shell
doesn't
have that much of a kick anyway. Also, the adapter was machined out of
solid
stainless and had
some heft, about 1/4" wall thickness. I doubt that it would kick that
much.
I'm kicking myself for not buying one of the adapters while I had the
chance. These .410
adapters are probably the next best thing. I wouldn't want to be on the
receiving
end of a .410 blast at pistol range.

Doug

"Over40pirate" wrote in message
...
Doug Dotson wrote:
I carry the Olin 25mm kit. .. The 25mm gun will also accept the
16ga
shotgun shell adapter..

OUCH! Back when American peasants were allowed weapons a friend had
a
single shot 12 Ga sawed-off at the pistol grip and fore end. Despite
retaining about half its original weight it was quite punishing to
shoot. I'm not sure which end of a light plastic Olin I'd rather be
on
when firing a 16Ga, and this from a nut who's carry gun is a LW 44
Magnum.

recommended flare gun ?
 

Not really a bad idea, if you can keep them dry. Fireworks at sea are an
internationally recognized distress signal. That's why you never see the
cruise ships firing them on July 4!

Of course, until you've fired or seen a parachute flare, you really don't
appreciate them. The cylinder houses a rocket.

"Lee Huddleston" wrote in message
...
It seems that the height of the shoot and the brightness are limited
somewhat by the flare being handheld. Does anyone make a larger flare
that you strap to the deck and fire? We have all seen (I presume)
large fireworks that shoot very high and have a very bright explosion.
Why couldn't we have an emergency flare like that? Probably
prohibitively expensive. If you will pardon the joke, fireworks
aren't rocket science. G Actually they are very simple. Wonder if
a person could build some for him/herself. Of course they would not
be counted by the USCG or your local equivalent, but the point would
be to safe your life. Just wondering and interested in the thoughts
of the other posters.

Lee Huddleston
s/v Truelove
lying Sea Gate Marina
Beaufort, NC

recommended flare gun ?
 

"L. M. Rappaport" wrote:

... The small(ish) gun fires both regular and parachute flares, the
latter having what amounts to its own barrel. I can't imagine they
would be wicked bad - they are supposed to be a safety device!


Agreed. But if you install an adapter and fire a 16 Ga shotgun shell as
some suggest I suspect your hand might smart for a while.

recommended flare gun ?
 

Apparently not as bad as one might think. But then again if I am trying to
defend myself against a threat that would warrant the use of said
device, I don't think it would bother me. I suspect that the kick
wouldn't be any worse than a large handgun like a .45 or .50.

Doug

"Vito" wrote in message
...
"L. M. Rappaport" wrote:

... The small(ish) gun fires both regular and parachute flares, the
latter having what amounts to its own barrel. I can't imagine they
would be wicked bad - they are supposed to be a safety device!


Agreed. But if you install an adapter and fire a 16 Ga shotgun shell as
some suggest I suspect your hand might smart for a while.

recommended flare gun ?
 

Doug Dotson wrote:

Apparently not as bad as one might think. But then again if I am trying to
defend myself against a threat that would warrant the use of said
device, I don't think it would bother me. I suspect that the kick
wouldn't be any worse than a large handgun like a .45 or .50.

I dunno Doug. I've fired literally 1000s of rounds of 45ACP and 100s of
44 MAGs without incident. In fact my "carry" gun is a Smith "Mountain
Gun". The only thing I didn't like to shoot in a handgun was a max load
of smokeless in a 45 Long Colt. I've also shot many rounds of 3" Mag's
thru a pistol-stocked Mossburg without discomfort. But firing a std 12
Ga hi-brass in a single shot that'd had its stock cut off to form a
duelling pistol-like grip and bbl cut off at the fore end felt about
like catching a fast pitched hardball without a mitt - stung like hell
and left my hand sore all day. One dude tried to brace his wrist against
his hip and straight-arm the bbl to hold it down. It split his palm!
But, as you say, if trying to defend oneself ya do what ya gotta do. I
still have that box of gawd-awful 45 Colt hand loads, but I haven't shot
many of them nor ordered any more (c:

Come to think of it, the relative weight of the projectile vs that of
the gun determines recoil rate so a lighter bullet wouldn't be near as
punishing as an ounce and a half of birdshot so a .22 or .38 would even
be fun. And, since the insert isn't a "gun" BATF should have no
objections, right? Sounds like a business opportunity for somebody.