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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:43:27 -0500, Jeff wrote:
Content Key is on the Gulf side, north of Big Pine, about halfway between Key West and Marathon. About 19 miles west of the rhumb line into Moser Channel and Marathon. There was some mention of being "blown off course". We've had 20 kt easterlies for the last week up until today, but 19 miles is a big offset on a 120 mile reach south from Ft Myers. Something must have gone seriously awry. |
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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:43:27 -0500, Jeff wrote: Content Key is on the Gulf side, north of Big Pine, about halfway between Key West and Marathon. About 19 miles west of the rhumb line into Moser Channel and Marathon. There was some mention of being "blown off course". We've had 20 kt easterlies for the last week up until today, but 19 miles is a big offset on a 120 mile reach south from Ft Myers. Something must have gone seriously awry. My thoughts also. I was studying charts of the area this morning trying to figure out how they ended up at Comfort Keys -- hopefully Skip will be able to get online soon and fill us in. I'm totally baffled, and still somewhat in shock over this, and can't believe their voyage may end so soon. Here's to the good ship Flying Pig and her stalwart crew -- may they sail again! |
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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
KLC Lewis wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:43:27 -0500, Jeff wrote: Content Key is on the Gulf side, north of Big Pine, about halfway between Key West and Marathon. About 19 miles west of the rhumb line into Moser Channel and Marathon. There was some mention of being "blown off course". We've had 20 kt easterlies for the last week up until today, but 19 miles is a big offset on a 120 mile reach south from Ft Myers. Something must have gone seriously awry. My thoughts also. I was studying charts of the area this morning trying to figure out how they ended up at Comfort Keys -- hopefully Skip will be able to get online soon and fill us in. I'm totally baffled, and still somewhat in shock over this, and can't believe their voyage may end so soon. Here's to the good ship Flying Pig and her stalwart crew -- may they sail again! They had planned to go from St. Petersburg to Marathon. Rather than sail around Key West, most people opt to take Big Spanish channel. The entrance to the channel is about 3 nm NNE of the Content Keys. there is a lighted marker (G57) at the channel entrance. That's the only lighted marker until you get east of No Name Key. Most people I know do not attempt to run this channel at night. They wait at Cape Sable and leave at first light in order to run the channel in daylight. According to my GRIB file the wind at 1AM Feb 6 was 25-30 KN from the NE with 7-8 ft. seas. Most likely, if he turned SE at G57, he didn't allow for the strong wind, missed "G55" (unlighted) and ended up on Harbor Key Bank (1-2 ft.). krj |
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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:47:20 -0500, krj
wrote: They had planned to go from St. Petersburg to Marathon. Rather than sail around Key West, most people opt to take Big Spanish channel. The entrance to the channel is about 3 nm NNE of the Content Keys. there is a lighted marker (G57) at the channel entrance. That's the only lighted marker until you get east of No Name Key. Most people I know do not attempt to run this channel at night. They wait at Cape Sable and leave at first light in order to run the channel in daylight. According to my GRIB file the wind at 1AM Feb 6 was 25-30 KN from the NE with 7-8 ft. seas. Most likely, if he turned SE at G57, he didn't allow for the strong wind, missed "G55" (unlighted) and ended up on Harbor Key Bank (1-2 ft.). krj Skip's boat draws 6 1/2 feet which is too much for Big Spanish channel in my opinion, especially at night. I draw 5 1/2 and don't take Big Spanish even during the day. The channel south from Bullard Bank and Red Bay Bank into Moser Channel is much deeper and easier to negotiate. I pointed that out to Skip several times on this group. http://tinyurl.com/3b8c42 |
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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:47:20 -0500, krj wrote: They had planned to go from St. Petersburg to Marathon. Rather than sail around Key West, most people opt to take Big Spanish channel. The entrance to the channel is about 3 nm NNE of the Content Keys. there is a lighted marker (G57) at the channel entrance. That's the only lighted marker until you get east of No Name Key. Most people I know do not attempt to run this channel at night. They wait at Cape Sable and leave at first light in order to run the channel in daylight. According to my GRIB file the wind at 1AM Feb 6 was 25-30 KN from the NE with 7-8 ft. seas. Most likely, if he turned SE at G57, he didn't allow for the strong wind, missed "G55" (unlighted) and ended up on Harbor Key Bank (1-2 ft.). krj Skip's boat draws 6 1/2 feet which is too much for Big Spanish channel in my opinion, especially at night. I draw 5 1/2 and don't take Big Spanish even during the day. The channel south from Bullard Bank and Red Bay Bank into Moser Channel is much deeper and easier to negotiate. I pointed that out to Skip several times on this group. http://tinyurl.com/3b8c42 I wasn't aware that Skip's boat drew 6 1/2 feet. In that case you are correct. The area south of Big Spanish Key can be only 5 feet. Rocky channel south of Bullfrog Banks would be much better, however it isn't a marked channel. But with waypoints programmed into the GPS it isn't hard to follow. We only draw 4 feet but also use Rocky Channel. krj |
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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:47:20 -0500, krj wrote: They had planned to go from St. Petersburg to Marathon. Rather than sail around Key West, most people opt to take Big Spanish channel. The entrance to the channel is about 3 nm NNE of the Content Keys. there is a lighted marker (G57) at the channel entrance. That's the only lighted marker until you get east of No Name Key. Most people I know do not attempt to run this channel at night. They wait at Cape Sable and leave at first light in order to run the channel in daylight. According to my GRIB file the wind at 1AM Feb 6 was 25-30 KN from the NE with 7-8 ft. seas. Most likely, if he turned SE at G57, he didn't allow for the strong wind, missed "G55" (unlighted) and ended up on Harbor Key Bank (1-2 ft.). krj Skip's boat draws 6 1/2 feet which is too much for Big Spanish channel in my opinion, especially at night. I draw 5 1/2 and don't take Big Spanish even during the day. The channel south from Bullard Bank and Red Bay Bank into Moser Channel is much deeper and easier to negotiate. I pointed that out to Skip several times on this group. http://tinyurl.com/3b8c42 Is his mast short enough to get under the Moser Channel bridge? |
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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
Geoff Schultz wrote in
: Here's the e-mail that I received earlier today: Me too. I'm monitoring Skype with it set to alarm when Skip comes online from the laptop at the motel. Nothing yet. Sure glad they're OK..... Larry -- Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun. |
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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:26:56 -0600, Geoff Schultz
wrote: Actually Lydia wrote: Before I get carried away for hours and hours with this email, I'm sending it out. I assure you that we are physically well, albeit, mentally fatigued and emotionally broken at the moment, but I'm sure things will improve once we can get a damage report. I wish Skip and Lydia had done that trip a little differently and stopped off a few places along the way. We usually put in at Venice or Boca Grande coming south from St Pete. Ft Myers or Marco Island makes a good second stop. We did a one day hop on January 12 from Marco to Key West with the wind blowing 25+ out of the east. We took some of the worst rolls we've ever experienced that day, and were plenty glad to get in before dark. |
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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:43:27 -0500, Jeff wrote: Content Key is on the Gulf side, north of Big Pine, about halfway between Key West and Marathon. About 19 miles west of the rhumb line into Moser Channel and Marathon. There was some mention of being "blown off course". We've had 20 kt easterlies for the last week up until today, but 19 miles is a big offset on a 120 mile reach south from Ft Myers. Something must have gone seriously awry. My thoughts also. I was studying charts of the area this morning trying to figure out how they ended up at Comfort Keys -- hopefully Skip will be able to get online soon and fill us in. I'm totally baffled, and still somewhat in shock over this, and can't believe their voyage may end so soon. Here's to the good ship Flying Pig and her stalwart crew -- may they sail again! Everyone should look at Google Earth of the area in The Keys. Content Key is one of the barrier keys on the Gulf side. Google Earth's satellite photography of this area has fantastic pictures of the sea bed in all this shallow water. You can even see obstructions in the "channels" all up and down The Keys. My condolences to anyone who has a 6' draft keel sticking down into this freak of nature. Best ways to see The Keys is by CAR! Larry -- Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun. |
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