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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
Can anyone post a pointer to more details of what happened?
Sad, very sad... -- Geoff "Len" wrote in ups.com: Saw this in another forum. Both are safe but are homeless. Regards, Len. To: From: "George Huffman" thatboatguy2@... Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 06:17:37 -0000 Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help This is a cut and paste. If anyone can render assistance please do. I've emailed them to let them know I'll be in the area soon and I've offered my services free to the extent I can help. George Skip Gundlach to Morgan show details 2:29 pm (0 minutes ago) Please continue the dialogue going, as it's very comforting at the moment but... We are ashore, in the care of the Red Cross at the moment. Aside from the adrenalin rush and some bruises from being knocked around, we are entirely fine physically. Mentally we're more than bummed, as you can guess. Until salvage operations commence, which due to the weather (the main contributing factor to our blowing off course) won't be until tomorrow morning at the earliest, we won't know the realities. At a minimum, since the boat will be taken to Marathon, we could use some temporary hospitality there. There are definitely breaches in the starboard hull but the boat is very high and dry at the moment, on its side. We don't know what the pounding which caused a lot of flexing inside may have done to the bulkheads and tabbing, but the reefer and settee and engine mounts were all moving notably - not a really good sign. If there is any good news, the water was so shallow that it never got to the floorboards, even with the very severe heel, and when I went around shutting the through-hulls, I never got my hands wet. So, with any luck, the damage is mostly above the water line, presumed somewhat simpler to address and less likely to affect the integrity of the hull. None the less, it's certain we'll be some months, if ever, before we are back aboard, our only home, with every possession in the world, having given away our car the day we left. At any event, we can still be reached via email, when we have access, which will persist until tonight, at the Red Cross, and then at the Days Inn in KWW, we expect, where we'll be for the next three days. After that, we're truly homeless (does being in the RC or a Days Inn relieve us from homelessness? The boat was our entire world - our home and every single possession)... In any case, thank you for your prayers and thoughts. We're physically well, and mental basket cases, though we are managing to get things done. More as we know more. Feel free to pass this around to other lists on which we participate, as you may be aware if you're on them, too, from having seen our posts in those. Right now we're a bit busy to do that ourselves... L8R Love from Skip and Lydia, Homeless... |
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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
A bit more info was posted:
[b]This just heard on local 12:00 noon Keys newscast. At midnight, 2 people were safely lifted from their 46' sailboat after going aground off Content Keys. Name of the boat: Flying Pig. Transiting from Ft. Myers thru Keys. 62 year old captain and mate are OK. Coast Guard and FWC monitoring the vessel. Content Key is on the Gulf side, north of Big Pine, about halfway between Key West and Marathon. We know that they were headed to Marathon from St. Pete; possibly they got pushed west by some weather. However, Content is way west of the route from Cape Sable to Marathon, so I'm guessing they were on a different route. Hopefully, they'll be able to save the boat. Geoff Schultz wrote: Can anyone post a pointer to more details of what happened? Sad, very sad... -- Geoff "Len" wrote in ups.com: Saw this in another forum. Both are safe but are homeless. Regards, Len. To: From: "George Huffman" thatboatguy2@... Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 06:17:37 -0000 Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help This is a cut and paste. If anyone can render assistance please do. I've emailed them to let them know I'll be in the area soon and I've offered my services free to the extent I can help. George Skip Gundlach to Morgan show details 2:29 pm (0 minutes ago) Please continue the dialogue going, as it's very comforting at the moment but... We are ashore, in the care of the Red Cross at the moment. Aside from the adrenalin rush and some bruises from being knocked around, we are entirely fine physically. Mentally we're more than bummed, as you can guess. Until salvage operations commence, which due to the weather (the main contributing factor to our blowing off course) won't be until tomorrow morning at the earliest, we won't know the realities. At a minimum, since the boat will be taken to Marathon, we could use some temporary hospitality there. There are definitely breaches in the starboard hull but the boat is very high and dry at the moment, on its side. We don't know what the pounding which caused a lot of flexing inside may have done to the bulkheads and tabbing, but the reefer and settee and engine mounts were all moving notably - not a really good sign. If there is any good news, the water was so shallow that it never got to the floorboards, even with the very severe heel, and when I went around shutting the through-hulls, I never got my hands wet. So, with any luck, the damage is mostly above the water line, presumed somewhat simpler to address and less likely to affect the integrity of the hull. None the less, it's certain we'll be some months, if ever, before we are back aboard, our only home, with every possession in the world, having given away our car the day we left. At any event, we can still be reached via email, when we have access, which will persist until tonight, at the Red Cross, and then at the Days Inn in KWW, we expect, where we'll be for the next three days. After that, we're truly homeless (does being in the RC or a Days Inn relieve us from homelessness? The boat was our entire world - our home and every single possession)... In any case, thank you for your prayers and thoughts. We're physically well, and mental basket cases, though we are managing to get things done. More as we know more. Feel free to pass this around to other lists on which we participate, as you may be aware if you're on them, too, from having seen our posts in those. Right now we're a bit busy to do that ourselves... L8R Love from Skip and Lydia, Homeless... |
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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
"Jeff" wrote in message . .. A bit more info was posted: [b]This just heard on local 12:00 noon Keys newscast. At midnight, 2 people were safely lifted from their 46' sailboat after going aground off Content Keys. Name of the boat: Flying Pig. Transiting from Ft. Myers thru Keys. 62 year old captain and mate are OK. Coast Guard and FWC monitoring the vessel. snip.. Glad to hear they are ok...hope they have enough insurance on the boat to cover the financial problems. Hard to believe their dream shattered so soon after years of planning. |
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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:43:27 -0500, Jeff wrote:
Content Key is on the Gulf side, north of Big Pine, about halfway between Key West and Marathon. About 19 miles west of the rhumb line into Moser Channel and Marathon. There was some mention of being "blown off course". We've had 20 kt easterlies for the last week up until today, but 19 miles is a big offset on a 120 mile reach south from Ft Myers. Something must have gone seriously awry. |
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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:43:27 -0500, Jeff wrote: Content Key is on the Gulf side, north of Big Pine, about halfway between Key West and Marathon. About 19 miles west of the rhumb line into Moser Channel and Marathon. There was some mention of being "blown off course". We've had 20 kt easterlies for the last week up until today, but 19 miles is a big offset on a 120 mile reach south from Ft Myers. Something must have gone seriously awry. My thoughts also. I was studying charts of the area this morning trying to figure out how they ended up at Comfort Keys -- hopefully Skip will be able to get online soon and fill us in. I'm totally baffled, and still somewhat in shock over this, and can't believe their voyage may end so soon. Here's to the good ship Flying Pig and her stalwart crew -- may they sail again! |
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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
KLC Lewis wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:43:27 -0500, Jeff wrote: Content Key is on the Gulf side, north of Big Pine, about halfway between Key West and Marathon. About 19 miles west of the rhumb line into Moser Channel and Marathon. There was some mention of being "blown off course". We've had 20 kt easterlies for the last week up until today, but 19 miles is a big offset on a 120 mile reach south from Ft Myers. Something must have gone seriously awry. My thoughts also. I was studying charts of the area this morning trying to figure out how they ended up at Comfort Keys -- hopefully Skip will be able to get online soon and fill us in. I'm totally baffled, and still somewhat in shock over this, and can't believe their voyage may end so soon. Here's to the good ship Flying Pig and her stalwart crew -- may they sail again! They had planned to go from St. Petersburg to Marathon. Rather than sail around Key West, most people opt to take Big Spanish channel. The entrance to the channel is about 3 nm NNE of the Content Keys. there is a lighted marker (G57) at the channel entrance. That's the only lighted marker until you get east of No Name Key. Most people I know do not attempt to run this channel at night. They wait at Cape Sable and leave at first light in order to run the channel in daylight. According to my GRIB file the wind at 1AM Feb 6 was 25-30 KN from the NE with 7-8 ft. seas. Most likely, if he turned SE at G57, he didn't allow for the strong wind, missed "G55" (unlighted) and ended up on Harbor Key Bank (1-2 ft.). krj |
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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:47:20 -0500, krj
wrote: They had planned to go from St. Petersburg to Marathon. Rather than sail around Key West, most people opt to take Big Spanish channel. The entrance to the channel is about 3 nm NNE of the Content Keys. there is a lighted marker (G57) at the channel entrance. That's the only lighted marker until you get east of No Name Key. Most people I know do not attempt to run this channel at night. They wait at Cape Sable and leave at first light in order to run the channel in daylight. According to my GRIB file the wind at 1AM Feb 6 was 25-30 KN from the NE with 7-8 ft. seas. Most likely, if he turned SE at G57, he didn't allow for the strong wind, missed "G55" (unlighted) and ended up on Harbor Key Bank (1-2 ft.). krj Skip's boat draws 6 1/2 feet which is too much for Big Spanish channel in my opinion, especially at night. I draw 5 1/2 and don't take Big Spanish even during the day. The channel south from Bullard Bank and Red Bay Bank into Moser Channel is much deeper and easier to negotiate. I pointed that out to Skip several times on this group. http://tinyurl.com/3b8c42 |
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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:47:20 -0500, krj wrote: They had planned to go from St. Petersburg to Marathon. Rather than sail around Key West, most people opt to take Big Spanish channel. The entrance to the channel is about 3 nm NNE of the Content Keys. there is a lighted marker (G57) at the channel entrance. That's the only lighted marker until you get east of No Name Key. Most people I know do not attempt to run this channel at night. They wait at Cape Sable and leave at first light in order to run the channel in daylight. According to my GRIB file the wind at 1AM Feb 6 was 25-30 KN from the NE with 7-8 ft. seas. Most likely, if he turned SE at G57, he didn't allow for the strong wind, missed "G55" (unlighted) and ended up on Harbor Key Bank (1-2 ft.). krj Skip's boat draws 6 1/2 feet which is too much for Big Spanish channel in my opinion, especially at night. I draw 5 1/2 and don't take Big Spanish even during the day. The channel south from Bullard Bank and Red Bay Bank into Moser Channel is much deeper and easier to negotiate. I pointed that out to Skip several times on this group. http://tinyurl.com/3b8c42 I wasn't aware that Skip's boat drew 6 1/2 feet. In that case you are correct. The area south of Big Spanish Key can be only 5 feet. Rocky channel south of Bullfrog Banks would be much better, however it isn't a marked channel. But with waypoints programmed into the GPS it isn't hard to follow. We only draw 4 feet but also use Rocky Channel. krj |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:47:20 -0500, krj wrote: They had planned to go from St. Petersburg to Marathon. Rather than sail around Key West, most people opt to take Big Spanish channel. The entrance to the channel is about 3 nm NNE of the Content Keys. there is a lighted marker (G57) at the channel entrance. That's the only lighted marker until you get east of No Name Key. Most people I know do not attempt to run this channel at night. They wait at Cape Sable and leave at first light in order to run the channel in daylight. According to my GRIB file the wind at 1AM Feb 6 was 25-30 KN from the NE with 7-8 ft. seas. Most likely, if he turned SE at G57, he didn't allow for the strong wind, missed "G55" (unlighted) and ended up on Harbor Key Bank (1-2 ft.). krj Skip's boat draws 6 1/2 feet which is too much for Big Spanish channel in my opinion, especially at night. I draw 5 1/2 and don't take Big Spanish even during the day. The channel south from Bullard Bank and Red Bay Bank into Moser Channel is much deeper and easier to negotiate. I pointed that out to Skip several times on this group. http://tinyurl.com/3b8c42 Is his mast short enough to get under the Moser Channel bridge? |
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Fwd: Subject: [TheDingyDock] Skip and Lydia Gundlach need help
"KLC Lewis" wrote in
et: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:43:27 -0500, Jeff wrote: Content Key is on the Gulf side, north of Big Pine, about halfway between Key West and Marathon. About 19 miles west of the rhumb line into Moser Channel and Marathon. There was some mention of being "blown off course". We've had 20 kt easterlies for the last week up until today, but 19 miles is a big offset on a 120 mile reach south from Ft Myers. Something must have gone seriously awry. My thoughts also. I was studying charts of the area this morning trying to figure out how they ended up at Comfort Keys -- hopefully Skip will be able to get online soon and fill us in. I'm totally baffled, and still somewhat in shock over this, and can't believe their voyage may end so soon. Here's to the good ship Flying Pig and her stalwart crew -- may they sail again! Everyone should look at Google Earth of the area in The Keys. Content Key is one of the barrier keys on the Gulf side. Google Earth's satellite photography of this area has fantastic pictures of the sea bed in all this shallow water. You can even see obstructions in the "channels" all up and down The Keys. My condolences to anyone who has a 6' draft keel sticking down into this freak of nature. Best ways to see The Keys is by CAR! Larry -- Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner. Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun. |
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