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What is the best knot that not only will stay tied but is easy to untie
and where can I find an example of how to tie it, please ? Thank you, Courtney |
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Courtney Thomas wrote:
What is the best knot that not only will stay tied but is easy to untie and where can I find an example of how to tie it, please ? Thank you, Courtney That will depend on what you need the knot to do. Lots of books out there. Try the marlinspike sailor by Hervey Garrett Smith. Lots of basic knots and how to tie them as well as what they are good for. Bill -- Message posted via BoatKB.com http://www.boatkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/cruising/200701/1 |
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![]() "Courtney Thomas" wrote in message news:Hkuqh.1452$To.541@bigfe9... What is the best knot that not only will stay tied but is easy to untie and where can I find an example of how to tie it, please ? Thank you, Courtney The most comprehensive book you'll ever find on the subject is "Encyclopedia of Knots and Fancy Rope Work" by Graumont. Easier to follow for the average bear is "Ashley's Book of Knots." Hervey Garrett Smith's "Marlinspike Sailor" is also very good, and I would list all three as essential for any ship's library. Karin |
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Courtney Thomas wrote:
What is the best knot that not only will stay tied but is easy to untie and where can I find an example of how to tie it, please ? Thank you, Courtney We use poly rope for stern tying up in Desolation Sound. I use the same knots for any given application that I would use for other lines except that I tape the bitter end off with electrical tape because poly does have a habit for coming undone? |
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Poly rope, because it floats, is great for stern lines which are needed on
crowded anchorages. Rather than tying it off, we loop it though a ring or around a rock or tree and back to a cleat on the boat. Poly is also used for painters, in which case it is spliced to build to the bridle. If you do need to tie a knot, you might whip the loose ends. Cut the whip to untie the knot. BTW - to what purpose will you use poly line. Jack "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:10:35 -0500, Courtney Thomas wrote: What is the best knot that not only will stay tied but is easy to untie and where can I find an example of how to tie it, please ? Thank you, Courtney Replace the poly rope with something reasonably decent. Poly does not hold knots, and deteriorates quickly when exposed to the elements. It DOES float, which is helpful for some light duty uses, but the junctions need to held be secured with more than just a knot. CWM |
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Jack Dale wrote:
Poly rope, because it floats, is great for stern lines which are needed on crowded anchorages. Rather than tying it off, we loop it though a ring or around a rock or tree and back to a cleat on the boat. Poly is also used for painters, in which case it is spliced to build to the bridle. If you do need to tie a knot, you might whip the loose ends. Cut the whip to untie the knot. BTW - to what purpose will you use poly line. Jack "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 13:10:35 -0500, Courtney Thomas wrote: What is the best knot that not only will stay tied but is easy to untie and where can I find an example of how to tie it, please ? Thank you, Courtney Replace the poly rope with something reasonably decent. Poly does not hold knots, and deteriorates quickly when exposed to the elements. It DOES float, which is helpful for some light duty uses, but the junctions need to held be secured with more than just a knot. CWM Thanks for the interest of all. The immediate use is to tie a tarp down so you see my concern about it staying tied and being easily untied, I was given 600' of 3/8" and other than dinghy painter have no other use for it, so am going to use it to secure the tarp. I'll whip the ends with electrical tape but what particular knot would you use, given my application ? Gratefully, Courtney |
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![]() Courtney Thomas wrote: I'll whip the ends with electrical tape but what particular knot would you use, given my application ? Gratefully, Courtney When I worked in the GOM for a diving contractor we used that yellow/oranag poly often for attaching a bouy to a pipe.The stuff is very slippery. The constant motion of the sea will work harder than a raccoon to undo most any knot with great success. There are two knots that I have used for poly in the water: 1) The Poly Knot, to make an eye with braded or three strand. 2) West Coast Dungi Crabber's Bouy Knot, to attach two bitter ends of similar size three strand poly. Would you like instructions? Bob |
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Courtney Thomas wrote:
What is the best knot that not only will stay tied but is easy to untie and where can I find an example of how to tie it, please ? Thank you, Courtney You have to tell us whether you mean Polyester, of which Dacron is a brand name, and is used for all sorts of running rigging, or Polypropylene which is a much weaker rope, but which floats and is used for water toys, etc. There is a huge difference in their ability to hold knots. While you're at it, you might tell us the application and the size and type of line. For example, cheap polypropylene won't hold a bowline at all, but some of the modern forms will. Also, be careful taking advice from the traditional books, such as Graumont or Ashley, since both types of "Poly" came into use after these books were written. |
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I'm sure you know that polypropelene doesn't handle uv well.
Don't know how long you expect to have this tarp erected, but maybe it's made of the same stuff, so won't matter. "Courtney Thomas" wrote in message ... Thanks for the interest of all. The immediate use is to tie a tarp down so you see my concern about it staying tied and being easily untied, I was given 600' of 3/8" and other than dinghy painter have no other use for it, so am going to use it to secure the tarp. I'll whip the ends with electrical tape but what particular knot would you use, given my application ? Gratefully, Courtney |
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Courtney wrote:
The immediate use is to tie a tarp down so you see my concern about it staying tied and being easily untied, I was given 600' of 3/8" and other than dinghy painter have no other use for it, so am going to use it to secure the tarp. Thread poly thru tarp grommets from side to side under boat, like lacing a shoe, then whip a 12" loop in each end. Thread end thru a gallon plastic jug handle that is full of water, and allowed to hang a couple of feet of the ground. Whip loop to hold jug. Get a beer and think of more questions. BTDT Lew |
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