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Im looking for any and all recipes out there that keep you going! Best of
all are single burner recipes that use ingredients which dont require refrigeration, have the least amount of preparation required, are fast to cook and have enough nutritional value to be considered as a daily meal~ Most 'camp recipes' i come across seam to be smores based or similar ie. a nice treat to have on a weekend campout, but not what youd really call food. What im really hoping for is as many recipes as possible of things you actually cook while cruising, especially things you'd cook on longer cruises, like more than 2 weeks for example. Recipes that require two burners are still great, as are recipes that require fish, or some that require meat that can be refrigerated,m but the best recipes of all are the ones that you can still have when at sea for an extended period of time..... Im also hunting through cookbooks of everyone i know and searching the net for recipes (any links greatly appreciated!). The results will be published as a free website that will hopefully be a good resource for us in future. Thanks, Shaun |
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Shaun Van Poecke wrote: Im looking for any and all recipes out there that keep you going! Thanks, Shaun Organic soy milk and oatmeal. Cheep, very healthy, stores forever. The soy aint milk so dont whine. COnsider it a tasty drink with a year shelf life. Cuscus. Not the **** in a box. Get plain bulk grain. It looks like cornmeal. Add warm water and anything else. Very tasty. And the fastest cooking grain Ive found. That is, just add hot water and let sit covered. Pan bread. Mix water and whole wheat flower. Maybe a llittle salt. Basically make a pan cake and fry it in olive oil. Ummmm. Got cheep tasty bread. Of course you should add spices and maybe a little parmisan cheese on top. I think ya got focata then. Cabage, onions, carrots, beets etc. If yoiur in that part of the world. They last forever if hung........ maybe 3 weeks in the tropics. Then ya got vegi soup. Pickled fish? Pickled eggs? Pickled pickles? and other veggies............. I wouldnot go too far. You might end up with kimchi. Corn tortillas. They never rot. I wonder why?!?!? Can of chicken breast Spice well. Bada Bing yas got tacos. lots of fruits SEA VEGTABLES FOOL ! Its only called sea-weed by us. Every one else considers that stuff that goes floating by a free lunch. There are several books on gathering and preparing sea vegies of the worlde. For example, That green stuff that wraps Shushi is called Nori by us and sp. Ulva Ulva by the marine botanist and lunch by everyone else. lentals soften fastest of all the dried beans. Soup them, mash them for a paste on your pan bread, sprout them for fresh greens. Wow....... grain and legume a complimentary combination. Read that old book titled, "Diet for a Small Planet" Excellent advice. Once you get traveling you'll see how the rest of the world lives............ sleep on the floor, either use hands or sticks to eat, and no refrigeration. It aint rocket science, its called poverty. Oh, just eat less. Youll lose weight and be healthier. Ever calclate you BMI? Bleive me we can ALL eat less and be healthier. Dude, by your question I get the feeling ya havnt cooked much for yourself. How many times a week do you eat out or open a can or a box and call it a meal? You may need to learn how to cook. If it comes in a box or can it ainit cookin. I dint metion air dried fish or even eating your fish RAW for fear of getting all the it aint safe fish wimps and haters. have fun. be adaptable. live longer cheeper. |
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Shaun Van Poecke wrote:
Im looking for any and all recipes out there that keep you going! Get a copy of M Greenwald's book, "Cruising Chef Cookbook". Equipment: 6 qt, S/S pressure cooker 4 qt, cast Iron Dutch Oven 8 qt, stock pot with strainer for cooking and draining pasta. Dehydrator Pepper mill Cheese grater Additions as required. Supplies: Legumes, pasta, rice, canned chopped clams, canned meats, canned tomatoes, flour, sugar, chocolate, popcorn, hard cheese. Fresh onions, cabbage, carrots, etc, store well, potatoes don't. Spices: Salt, pepper corns, bay leaves, additions as required. Bay leaves in flour, rice, etc, keep the bugs out. Have fun. Lew |
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Get a copy of M Greenwald's book, "Cruising Chef Cookbook".
Equipment: 6 qt, S/S pressure cooker 4 qt, cast Iron Dutch Oven 8 qt, stock pot with strainer for cooking and draining pasta. Dehydrator Pepper mill Cheese grater Additions as required. Supplies: Legumes, pasta, rice, canned chopped clams, canned meats, canned tomatoes, flour, sugar, chocolate, popcorn, hard cheese. Fresh onions, cabbage, carrots, etc, store well, potatoes don't. I've heard mixed things about potatoes, maybe it depends on the climate? Some old sailing literature shows that they were carried on longer coyages, joshua slocum carried a couple of barrels of potatos on the spray, but he got a bad deal on rotten nasty potatoes in south america. He cant say enough good things about potatoes. Ive carried them when i camp, and they seem to last alright in the australian desert at 45 degrees celsius, but ive only carried them for two weeks. Not storing them in plastic bags seems to make s big difference ;-) Bay leaves in flour, rice, etc, keep the bugs out. Thats a good tip, and the first time ive heard it! I love using bay leave in curries and stew, i have a good size bay tree outside my house. Roughly how many bay leaves to how many pound sof rice/flour? Thanks, Shaun |
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Shaun Van Poecke wrote:
I've heard mixed things about potatoes, maybe it depends on the climate? Some old sailing literature shows that they were carried on longer coyages, joshua slocum carried a couple of barrels of potatos on the spray, but he got a bad deal on rotten nasty potatoes in south america. He cant say enough good things about potatoes. Ive carried them when i camp, and they seem to last alright in the australian desert at 45 degrees celsius, but ive only carried them for two weeks. Not storing them in plastic bags seems to make s big difference ;-) There is a reason why my grandmother had a potato cellar, a cool dark place under the house. It was cool and dark. Kept potatoes from going to sprout. Tough to have a potato cellar on a boat. Potatoes have considerable packaging waste, especially if you peel them. Pasta adapts well to the marine environment, fresh potatoes don't. OTOH, dehydrated is something else. Thats a good tip, and the first time ive heard it! I love using bay leave in curries and stew, i have a good size bay tree outside my house. Roughly how many bay leaves to how many pound sof rice/flour? A couple will do the job. More is better.;-) Lew |
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The following is not necessarily a boat recipe; however, it can be
considered a traditional kind of New Year's Day dish. Enjoy ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++ Cabbage And Spuds From The Warped Mind And Inclined Galley Of Lew Hodgett INGREDIENTS: 1 Lb, Sliced Bacon, cut in 1" wide strips 6, Medium White Potatoes, peeled and diced into 1/2" cubes 1 Head, Green Cabbage, cleaned, quartered, cored and sliced into 1/2" strips. 46 Fl Oz, Can of V8 Juice. Kosher Salt and fresh cracked black pepper. DIRECTIONS: Using a 6 qt, cast iron Dutch oven, render bacon crisp, then remove and pour off excess grease, retaining about 2 tablespoons. Return bacon to pot, add potatoes, toss with bacon and season to taste. Add cabbage to potatoes and bacon, then toss and season to taste. Add V8 juice, then stir and season to taste. Cover and cook on top of stove over low heat for 20-30 minutes or until potatoes are done, stirring often. Remove from heat, let rest for 15 minutes before serving. Serve with crusty pieces of French bread. |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:16:44 GMT, "Shaun Van Poecke"
wrote: el sniperino I've heard mixed things about potatoes, maybe it depends on the climate? Some old sailing literature shows that they were carried on longer coyages, joshua slocum carried a couple of barrels of potatos on the spray, but he got a bad deal on rotten nasty potatoes in south america. He cant say enough good things about potatoes. yes, but what about that welsh salt who eat nothing but "burgaboo" or something. A layered mixture of whiskey soaked oatmeal and pureed sardines. He also fed this to a dog. Can you imagine the stench? |
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Cuscus. Not the **** in a box. Get plain bulk grain. It looks like
cornmeal. Add warm water and anything else. Very tasty. And the fastest cooking grain Ive found. That is, just add hot water and let sit covered. Ive heard a lot about cuscus, but what do you have it with once its hydrated.... do you just eat it by itself? Pan bread. Mix water and whole wheat flower. Maybe a llittle salt. Basically make a pan cake and fry it in olive oil. Ummmm. Got cheep tasty bread. Of course you should add spices and maybe a little parmisan cheese on top. I think ya got focata then. Good info! I make up a basic flour/water/salt/dash of oil dough that i use for chapatis. I roll them our nice and thin, then take a skillet (not a teflon coated one) and turn it upside down on a flame. makes a great surface for cooking the bread on. smear a bit of garlic butter on top for variety. makes a great dipper in soups/curries. Cabage, onions, carrots, beets etc. If yoiur in that part of the world. They last forever if hung........ maybe 3 weeks in the tropics. Then ya got vegi soup. Pickled fish? Pickled eggs? Pickled pickles? and other veggies............. I wouldnot go too far. You might end up with kimchi. what's wrong with kimchi? I lived in korea for 4 years and learned to make about a dozen types of kimchi as well as soy bean paste and chilli paste. Spring onion kimchi is my favourite. yum. SEA VEGTABLES FOOL ! Its only called sea-weed by us. Every one else considers that stuff that goes floating by a free lunch. There are several books on gathering and preparing sea vegies of the worlde. For example, That green stuff that wraps Shushi is called Nori by us and sp. Ulva Ulva by the marine botanist and lunch by everyone else. I'd really like to know more about seaweed, ive eaten it in most of its varierites, but i've never harvested it. There seems to be a few basic varieties, the one that is made for sushi which is sort of chopped up, then roasted. and then there is the one that is used more in soups, whole. The one in the soups has a very seaweedy taste, but from what im told has a lot of calcium in it. Can you use any kind of seaweed you find, or are there only certain kinds? Oh, just eat less. Youll lose weight and be healthier. Ever calclate you BMI? Bleive me we can ALL eat less and be healthier. Most of the sailing stories i've read are pretty depressing.... The diet seems to consist of mostly freeze dried meals which to me are tasteless and really cant have much nutririon. I think food is very important. Dude, by your question I get the feeling ya havnt cooked much for yourself. How many times a week do you eat out or open a can or a box and call it a meal? You may need to learn how to cook. If it comes in a box or can it ainit cookin. sorry if i gave that impression, Ive been cooking for myself for the last 15 years, I do all the cooking at home and in return my partner does all the cleaning. Ive been travelling the last 7 years and try to learn new recipes whenever i can. in whatever country i live in, i eat what the locals eat. Its cheapear and usually better for you than what you can get in 'western restaurants'. I think my way of cooking probably isnt all that adaptable to cruising though.... when i look for a house i always choose one within walking distance of a produce market because i like to shop daily to suit my tastes. I cant remember a time in the last 10 years when i shopped for a whole week. Most of the cooking i do at home is either 'fast' on my 3 ring LPG burner, stir fry's and flambe dishes together with rice, or its 'slow' being roasts, potato bakes, stews, curries. I do a bit of meat and 3 veg stuff too. Id like to learn more dishes that can be done on a single burner, and dont require refrigeration. Off the top of my head, i can only think of maybe half a dozen. I dint metion air dried fish or even eating your fish RAW for fear of getting all the it aint safe fish wimps and haters. come on now, dont be like that ;-) I ate a lot of air dried squid in korea, smelly stuff!, and a lot of raw fish in japan. It's all good. Shaun |
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"Shaun Van Poecke" wrote: Im looking for any and all recipes out there that keep you going! Best of all are single burner recipes that use ingredients which dont require refrigeration, have the least amount of preparation required, are fast to cook and have enough nutritional value to be considered as a daily meal~ Most 'camp recipes' i come across seam to be smores based or similar ie. a nice treat to have on a weekend campout, but not what youd really call food. What im really hoping for is as many recipes as possible of things you actually cook while cruising, especially things you'd cook on longer cruises, like more than 2 weeks for example. We've cruised up to three weeks with what we had on board, other than incidentals that don't keep well, like bread. We didn't have to, but it was a good exercise that could be done while we found out how far we could go in 3 weeks on the ICW (ans: over 900 nm). Starting with a pretty efficient main ice box and frozen meats, we had meat of some sort almost every dinner. The fresh fish, of course, went first, and we were down to foil packets at the end, but we found we could eat about the same we do at home, sometimes better, such as when we got crabs or shrimp straight from the watermen -- ambrosia. We do most of our heavy cooking on the propane grill on the rail, as the cabin gets too hot. The grill works as an oven to some extent, but that takes practice. For most cruising, say coastal, ICW or most of the Caribbean, planning for a week is sufficient, as you're rarely more than a day or two from somewhere where people live. They'll have food -- and ice ;-) Might not be what you're used to, but sampling local fare is one reason we travel. That said, there are *many* possible totally unrefrigerated meals, starting with most of what you eat at home, but there will be some adaptations. Stroll down your supermarket's aisles. See how many meats, vegetables, fruits, pastas and so forth are stored at room temps. Read some cruising guides to find out how to keep eggs, fresh veggies and such. There are even cruising and backpacking cookbooks. And don't forget that you don't have to cook everything at once. Thus, that single burner can cook the contents of multiple pots. Don't limit yourself to meals that are all mashed together. You will eat as well or poorly as you choose. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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How fancy do you want to go? On the high end, there are the "Ship to
Shore" series of cookbooks, which compile recipes from crewed charter boats who compete to see who can cook the fanciest with the minimal accommodations available. Nice for a change or special event, or simply to pamper yourself. I have found that my collection of backpacking cookbooks have been equally helpful on boat. Some are quite a bit more advanced than s'mores (although don't forget sweet snacks), and many of the recipes require little refrigeration or preparation. In fact, I discovered that my backpacking cookware (a nesting set of stainless pots) also worked best for the boat too. The key thing is to plan your meals in advance. Unlike home, where you can keep a stocked pantry, I don't have the space for ingredients "just in case." Planning the meals and then packing just what I need works the best. I pre-package bulk ingredients when possible, (another reason to have a foodsaver vacuum). If I carry spares, it is the freeze dried meals that I would also use for backpacking (they store really well) or repackaged beans and rice mixes. I also make accommodations -- on shore, I like coffee; at sea, a strong British blend of tea is far easier and somehow seems more appropriate. If you do want to keep "stores" then rice keeps great and you can keep flour, salt, etc. in hard sealed, vacuum sealed containers. With all respect to those of different persuasions, do your best to be imaginative and not create boring meals. I have lived on beans and rice and been happy (another great staple), but there's much to be said to making the meal as much a part of the sailing positive memories as well. Steve |
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