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Oh well that must be it. Rob Dubin knows nothing at all about any of this.
Rob - If you really want to sort this out you could (a) send me back the parts you walked off with or (b) send me the money you owe. But then again, this is a total fabrication isn't it. I am a liar, Mr. Nikatcha is a liar, Practical Sailor are a bunch of liars as are Island Packet. Funny how the only thing you own up to is the part which can be independently verified. No Rob and Charlie, the guys driving the taxis and other locals being mistreated by Dubin are not going to write into this forum and probably wouldn't know the name of the person who conned them even if they could. The only thing that can be independently verified Dubin now confesses to and I think that in and of itself is more than sufficient to indicate the man's lack of integrity.. If he worked for the NY times (or any other reputable media group) he would have been thrown out and become the laughing stock of the industry. Let's take a look a Dubin's side of this verifiable portion of his story. I have now gotten a copy of Dubin's lame video thanks to a reader of this group. In the video Dubin promotes specific products as if he has personal knowledge of them and their performance. The idea presented in that these have been carefully selected by Dubin based on his years of cruising experience and represent only the best. Nowhere is there a mention of donations in exchange for promotional consideration. Such a statement would be considered a basic minimum by any reputable producer in any media. Additionally, it is very likely that the way this video is presented, and the lack of such a statement is a violation of law. It is intentionally a VERY misleading video and that immoral at best and almost certainly illegal when taken to this degree. According to Dubin "Long after our boat and film were underway we were approached by Practical Sailor who wanted to joint venture with us to market the video". Problem #1 - Right Rob. How would they have even known about it? PS is not in this kind of business. Problem #2 - Dubin uses the Practical Sailor name to solicit more donations from the manufacturers for his personal use. Hello! Does anyone but myself, Mr. Nikatcha and Practical Sailor see a conflict of interest here? Problem #3 - PS suddenly feels their "integrity had been compromised" by their association with you? Why would this possibly be? Hadn't they come to you? Hadn't you told them exactly what you were doing? Problem #4 - "59 of the original 60 manufacturers chose to participate in the video". How many of these companies had already shipped you their products? By your own admission you already had the boat and were making the video. Obviously you have received donations well before the manufacturers were given the opportunity to back out. Perhaps best of all is list of the many ways in which Dubin "gives back to the cruising community". 1. He writes articles for the SSCA without pay. Of course you do. How else are you going to be in a position to exchange positive comments in these articles for discounts or free equipment from the manufacturers. This sure helps out us cruisers - thanks a lot for all that effort. 2. At "considerable investment in my time I maintain a website chock full of information to help those dreaming of cruising or those in the process of outfitting a boat." I ask you all, is this one arrogant *&#$%#$* or what. Worst of all, I think the guy is actually serious. Last but not least, I think it might be worth contacting the SSCA to see how they feel about their "Commodore"s using the SSCA name and position as a sort of defacto endorsement of the promotion of particular manufacturers in exchage for free equipment. Practical Sailor got ****ed for a reason. Nuff said. And Rob - as for my $$$. Forget it. Finding out just what a serious slim bag you are with all this video stuff was work 10x that amount. Mike "Charlie J" wrote in message ... Background: Mike McPherson posted a message on this forum titled "Rob Dubin - watch for this scammer". I asked Mr. McPherson for more info because I had never seen anybody actually attack a person in the Subject line. After a couple of relatively vague answers, Mr. McPherson finally provided the facts as he knows them. I personally know Rob Dubin and have cruised with him throughout the Eastern Caribbean and the story that Mr. McPherson provided did not ring true. As Ventana does not currently have internet access, I sent Rob an email via hf radio with the messages posted by Mr. McPherson on this newsgroup and by Mr. Nikacha on the SailNet board. Rob responded and asked me to post his reply which I do so he -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------- To Mike McPherson et al. From Rob Dubin, s/v Ventana I was recently made aware of some of the things being said about my wife and me on this chat group and while I do not have internet access at the moment I would like to respond as best I can via email. Specifically to Mike McPherson's claim to have worked on my boat in Maeva Beach and to have provided parts to me etc. Either someone impersonated me or Mr. McPherson is out to trash someone he has never met. In either case he owes me a public apology. To be perfectly clear about this. I had no problem with my alternator in April of last year. No one was ever on my boat to work on my alternator. The entire story about someone bringing us parts etc, is totally and completely false. None of what Mr. McPherson described EVER HAPPENED. This is not a case of 2 sides to the same story. Mr. McPherson's story is 100% fabricated. To my knowledge I have never met Mr. McPherson. I do not know a boat named Boatsqueak nor do I ever recall hearing that name on any of the radio nets. (I was a volunteer net controller on several radio nets both last year and this year). As an SSCA commodore I go out of my way to "leave a clean wake." In part this means never leaving bad feelings behind you with the local population and I defy Mr. McPherson to find ANY examples otherwise. I also attempt to give back to the cruising community by writing articles for the SSCA bulletin. There is no pay for writing for the SSCA bulletin. At my own expense and with a considerable investment in my time I maintain a website chock full of information to help those dreaming of cruising or those in the process of outfitting a boat. (www.ventanasvoyage.com) Anyone who has ever posted a query or comment to my website has received a personal reply. While my business arrangement with Island Packet is really no one else's business I will respond to Mr. Nikacha for the simple reason that those who have taken my outfitting advice deserve to not be mislead by his statements. Yes we received a discount from Island Packet and nearly 60 other manufacturers whose products appeared in the video we made about outfitting a cruising boat. Long after our boat and film were underway we were approached by Practical Sailor who wanted to joint venture with us to market the video. We told the manufacturers the video would get promotion from PS. When Practical Sailor later realized the nature of our tradeouts they felt their integrity had been compromised and they insisted we send out letters to 60 manufacturers clearly stating PS was not involved. We sent the letter they requested. We then proceeded with our video and 59 of the original 60 manufacturers chose to participate in the video. We did not tell the manufacturers we would put them in video if they gave us a discount. We told them quite specifically that we had selected their product to be on our boat regardless of whether they gave us a discount or not. We simply told them we would promote them well and it would be worth a discount to be promoted in the video. Now after 8 years of cruising we are still pleased with our Island Packet and how we outfitted it. Our recommendations have sold a bunch of boats and lots of other products and I consider this a win- win- win situation. The manufacturers have done well, I have done well and those who followed our outfitting suggestions have bought quality products that hopefully will help them enjoy their own boats. I look forward to an explanation from Mr. McPherson and I will be happy to respond to any questions regarding the above statements. Rob Dubin s/v Ventana -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------- So there you have it Messrs. McPherson and Nikacha...if you would like to reply, I will be glad to act as relay to Ventana. Regards- Charlie |
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