I have been a catamaran sailor for years and have come this conclusion:
a major different between monohulls and catamarans is the most sable
position for a catamaran is upside down on the surface, the most sable
position for a monohull is right side up on the bottom. I'll take
the cat.

119 days in capsized trimaran Rose Noelle.

After four months adrift in the South Pacific in 1989, the survivors were in such relatively good health that at first their story
was disbelieved. Though upside down and half-submerged, their boat was well made. Its captain, John Glennie, a shrewd old salt, and
his three companions--including Nalepka, an Outward Bound guide and the sole American--had originally set out from New Zealand for
Tonga, and after capsizing they made living quarters in a compartment in the hull the size of a double bed with 18 inches of head-
room.

Here is a link to some audio:
http://www.lauralee.com/index.cgi?pid=3277

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When American Citizens with dual citizenship pledges allegiance
to the flag, to which flag do they pledge allegiance too?

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"Harbin Osteen" wrote in message
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119 days in capsized trimaran Rose Noelle.

After four months adrift in the South Pacific in 1989, the survivors were
in such relatively good health that at first their story was disbelieved.
Though upside down and half-submerged, their boat was well made. Its
captain, John Glennie, a shrewd old salt, and his three
companions--including Nalepka, an Outward Bound guide and the sole
American--had originally set out from New Zealand for Tonga, and after
capsizing they made living quarters in a compartment in the hull the size
of a double bed with 18 inches of head- room.

Here is a link to some audio:
http://www.lauralee.com/index.cgi?pid=3277

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SeeYaa Harbin Osteen KG6URO

When American Citizens with dual citizenship pledges allegiance
to the flag, to which flag do they pledge allegiance too?


Thanks for the link.

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A modern blue water trimaran might well have livable space while inverted,
but I'm not confident of finding any inside my cat should she flip, as awash
as she would be.
Still, it would be better awash than deep and getting deeper.


"Harbin Osteen" wrote in message
...
119 days in capsized trimaran Rose Noelle.

After four months adrift in the South Pacific in 1989, the survivors were
in such relatively good health that at first their story was disbelieved.
Though upside down and half-submerged, their boat was well made. Its
captain, John Glennie, a shrewd old salt, and his three
companions--including Nalepka, an Outward Bound guide and the sole
American--had originally set out from New Zealand for Tonga, and after
capsizing they made living quarters in a compartment in the hull the size
of a double bed with 18 inches of head- room.

Here is a link to some audio:
http://www.lauralee.com/index.cgi?pid=3277

--

SeeYaa Harbin Osteen KG6URO

When American Citizens with dual citizenship pledges allegiance
to the flag, to which flag do they pledge allegiance too?

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Sounds like great fun.

Harbin Osteen wrote:

119 days in capsized trimaran Rose Noelle.

After four months adrift in the South Pacific in 1989, the survivors were in such relatively good health that at first their story
was disbelieved. Though upside down and half-submerged, their boat was well made. Its captain, John Glennie, a shrewd old salt, and
his three companions--including Nalepka, an Outward Bound guide and the sole American--had originally set out from New Zealand for
Tonga, and after capsizing they made living quarters in a compartment in the hull the size of a double bed with 18 inches of head-
room.

Here is a link to some audio:
http://www.lauralee.com/index.cgi?pid=3277

--

SeeYaa Harbin Osteen KG6URO

When American Citizens with dual citizenship pledges allegiance
to the flag, to which flag do they pledge allegiance too?

-

It's a well established fact that most roll overs of a monohull do not result in
the boat
sinking. I would rather take my chances with a roll over than be helplessly
trapped
upside down.

Makes me also wonder, what did we do before we had EPIRBS? I guess earlier
sailors were better prepared to take care of themselves.

Sherwin D.

" wrote:

I have been a catamaran sailor for years and have come this conclusion:
a major different between monohulls and catamarans is the most sable
position for a catamaran is upside down on the surface, the most sable
position for a monohull is right side up on the bottom. I'll take
the cat.

sherwindu wrote:
It's a well established fact that most roll overs of a monohull do not result in
the boat
sinking. I would rather take my chances with a roll over than be helplessly
trapped
upside down.

Makes me also wonder, what did we do before we had EPIRBS? I guess earlier
sailors were better prepared to take care of themselves.

Sherwin D.


My guess would be that a lot more of those sailors were lost at sea.

"Don White" wrote in message
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sherwindu wrote:
It's a well established fact that most roll overs of a monohull do not
result in
the boat
sinking. I would rather take my chances with a roll over than be
helplessly
trapped
upside down.

Makes me also wonder, what did we do before we had EPIRBS? I guess
earlier
sailors were better prepared to take care of themselves.

Sherwin D.


My guess would be that a lot more of those sailors were lost at sea.


Exactly.

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sherwindu wrote:

It's a well established fact that most roll overs of a monohull do not result in
the boat
sinking. I would rather take my chances with a roll over than be helplessly
trapped
upside down.

Makes me also wonder, what did we do before we had EPIRBS? I guess earlier
sailors were better prepared to take care of themselves.

Sherwin D.

Sherwin,

Earlier sailors probably _were_ better prepared to
take care of themselves, because there were no
radios, and no CG helicopters, CG fast cutters,
etc, and they knew it when they left port.

However, many of them also disappeared without a
trace, and it is still a mystery what happened to
them. This still happens today even with all of
our safety gear.

Don W.

"Eternal Father, strong to save, Whose arm hath
bound the restless wave...Oh, hear us when we cry
to Thee, For those in peril on the sea!" --
Excerpted from the Navy Hymn -- William Whiting 1860.

Hi Sherwin:
Why would you be helplessly trapped? Can't you swim? If the multihull
is not going to sink, you can swim out the hatch, or, like some multihull
sailors do, is to carry tools located near to where they have planed to
cut a hole in the hull incase of a capsize. Some multihulls have a built in
escape hatch. To take your chance with a rollover in a mono can be a
all or nothing gamble with your life, better odds with a multi, which
you would still have water, food and everything else you brought
with you. In a mono, if there is a hole in the hull for any reason, such
as hitting a container (which is more of a problem than you might think)
or holed by a whale, or equipment failure, you are in deep dodo.
I don't mean to sound like I don't like mono's, I would love to
have a Freedom 40, but as far as safety goes, I think the multi's have
it.

Lagoon escape hatch:
http://www.indigomoon.us/triplog/survey.html

The crewman leaning against the hull is buy the
escape hatch, which is swung over to his left:
http://www.breath2000.org/gallery/al...a_capsize1.jpg

If this happened to a mono, how much time would you have to gather what you need to survive?:
http://www.ceps-survie.com/images/Tr...Spain%2095.jpg

This mono did not survive this:
http://photos.sfsurvey.com/sailH/index.asp

Lost his rudder stock, gone in 60 minutes:
http://www.f-boat.com/pdf/YachtSinkingMay05.pdf


"sherwindu" wrote in message ...
It's a well established fact that most roll overs of a monohull do not result in
the boat
sinking. I would rather take my chances with a roll over than be helplessly
trapped
upside down.

Makes me also wonder, what did we do before we had EPIRBS? I guess earlier
sailors were better prepared to take care of themselves.

Sherwin D.

" wrote:

I have been a catamaran sailor for years and have come this conclusion:
a major different between monohulls and catamarans is the most sable
position for a catamaran is upside down on the surface, the most sable
position for a monohull is right side up on the bottom. I'll take
the cat.